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Old May 23, 2002, 15:15   #61
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Osweld: I still think that you and che are being oversensetive on this issue, especially given the fact that he has been honored by the American Jewish Committee.
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Old May 23, 2002, 15:17   #62
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Possibly. At first I thought Watto was just a general Eastern Mediterranian stereotype. Could be Greek, Turkish, Arabic, Jewish, Italian. With the changes to him in the second movie, though, there is no doubt.

Oswald, that is freakish.
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Whoah. Okay, I really wasn't seeing it before, but now... yikes.

Wasn't Watto being targeted by Arab groups as an anti-Arab stereotype after TPM?
Arabs are semites. But do they have different shaped noses?
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They are not semites? Or the noses are different...or they are same? Or it's not a great thread?
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Wasn't Watto being targeted by Arab groups as an anti-Arab stereotype after TPM?
Watto has been called Turkish, Arabic, Middle Eastern, even French and Italian.
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He has also been called Shylock from "The Merchant of Venice."
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See, that's why I thought it was silly before, but seeing those two pictures together... that's more than a little unsettling, you must admit.

I still think the Trade Federation = Asians thing is crap. One of them might sound like the lowest-quality Asian stereotyped accent, but the other one just sounds like he has a mouth full of cotton balls.

Have you checked your PMs, DD?
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They are not semites? Or the noses are different...or they are same? Or it's not a great thread?
Take Israelis and Arabs take off any head coverings. Drop them in a bag. Shake it up. Empty bag. How do you tell them apart?
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The guy winning the fight is Israeli.
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btw, Shylock is , AFAIK , a known jewish negative stereotype.
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I just checked them, Guy. Thanks for the heads up.
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Take Israelis and Arabs take off any head coverings. Drop them in a bag. Shake it up. Empty bag. How do you tell them apart?
Umm...the Jews will kick the Arabs' asses!


Anyhow, do you think that Watto is anti-Jew, anti-Arab, or anti-both? I guess there is a negative stereotype of merchants from the Levant wether Jew or Arab.
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http://www.freepress.org/Backup/Unix...e/phantom.html

Here's a article about this issue.
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chris and GP are you jewish or what the ****????!!!!!!
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just joking of course
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chris and GP are you jewish or what the ****????!!!!!!
I just have a big "trunk".
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Take Israelis and Arabs take off any head coverings. Drop them in a bag. Shake it up. Empty bag. How do you tell them apart?
What if I shake a naked Greek and Ottoman together in a bag?
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Besides, there have been accusations of Rascism in Star Wars since day one.

From Chasing Amy:

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HOLDEN (calling out): Bulls--t! Lando Calrissian was a black man, and he got to fly the Millennium Falcon!
(Hooper whips his head around, looking for the source of the comment)
HOOPER: Who said that?!?
HOLDEN (standing): I did! Lando Calrissian is a positive black role model in the realm of Science Fiction/Fantasy.
HOOPER: F--k Lando Calrissian! Uncle Tom n----r! Always some white boy gotta invoke the holy trilogy! Bust this - those movies are about how the white man keeps the brother man down - even in a galaxy far, far away. Check this **** . You got cracker farm-boy Luke Skywalker, Nazi poster boy - blond hair, blue eyes. And then you've got Darth Vader: the blackest brother in the galaxy. Nubian God.
BANKY: What's a Nubian?
HOOPER: Shut the f--k up! Now Vader, he's a spiritual brother, with the force and all that s--t. Then this cracker Skywalker gets his hands on a light-saber, and the boy decides he's gonna run the f--king universe - gets a whole Klan of whites together, and they're gonna bust up Vader's 'hood- the Death Star. Now what the f--k do you call that!
BANKY: Intergalactic Civil War!
HOOPER: Gentrification. They're gonna drive our the black element, to make the galaxy quote, unquote "safe" for white folks.
HOLDEN: But Vader turns, out to be Luke's father. And in Jedi, they become friends.
HOOPER: Don't make me bust a cap in your ass, yo! Jedi's the most insulting installment, because Vader's beautiful, black visage is sullied when he pulls off his mask to reveal a feeble, crusty white man! They're trying to tell us that deep inside, we all want to be white!
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I thought you were leaving forever...because of my evil racism...
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Disturbing, but I think the issue is over-exaggerated.
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paiktis, were you hitting the friend's scotch again? Anyhow, I still need to get you thosen Greek journalist articles about the USN.
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It's better if I'm the source of all evil. Then things can calm down when I go on "vacation". MarkG says that he has to brace himself for a troll every time he sees my name next to a thread...
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