May 24, 2002, 14:30
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Firaxis: Small Worthwhile Trade Tweak
i really wish there was an "exclude" option for trades.
for example, early in the game, i'm usually the first to literature, so i can get the great library. i never want to trade literacy until i have a large portion of the GL done. but whenever i want to trade with another civ, and i say "what do you want for Polytheism", they never fail to throw Literature in there, and again, i will never trade it.
if there were a way to "exclude" things, techs, cities, resources, anything, it would be a VERY great addition to AI diplomacy.
thanks guys, the game keeps getting better. 
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May 24, 2002, 14:51
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Yeah, and it should be possible to demand them to accept a trade that isnt just them giving you something.
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May 24, 2002, 16:27
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An exclude option is a good idea.
I'll be a supporter if the interface makes it simple (like right clicking on the tech/luxury/whatever to make it excludable). If the interface is heavy, the bad would outweight the good.
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May 24, 2002, 16:33
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Normally I'd agree with you. The only problem is, every AI civ ends up with Literature 3 turns afterwards anyways so it would be useless...
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May 24, 2002, 19:07
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Originally posted by Trip
Normally I'd agree with you. The only problem is, every AI civ ends up with Literature 3 turns afterwards anyways so it would be useless...
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that was just an example, heres another one.
just say you have extra rubber, and you DONT want to trade it to a civ, because you dont want them to have infantry. every deal you make, they'll throw rubber in. you should be able to exclude it.
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May 24, 2002, 20:30
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And then they'll just get it for 2 gold per turn from another AI civ. 
But yes, I see your point.
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May 24, 2002, 21:41
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Normally I'd agree with you. The only problem is, every AI civ ends up with Literature 3 turns afterwards anyways so it would be useless...
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When I play Regent the AI often doesn't get Literature tell the end of the Middle Ages...
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May 24, 2002, 21:44
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Even on Regent, I find that if I refuse to trade a tech, then a couple turns later every AI civ has it...
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May 25, 2002, 22:14
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Originally posted by Trip
Even on Regent, I find that if I refuse to trade a tech, then a couple turns later every AI civ has it...
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you can modify the values to a quasi-fair level ibn the editor.
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May 25, 2002, 23:23
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Originally posted by UberKruX
you can modify the values to a quasi-fair level ibn the editor.
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It's too bad we actually have to do that...
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May 26, 2002, 01:06
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Uber and others,
I like the idea of exclusions... but before dealing with that, Firaxis PLEASE give us a unified trading screen. I'll take anything; obviously, the data is there in the SAV... even a separate little program, like Civstats, ANYTHING.
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