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Old May 27, 2002, 03:28   #1
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Do you Auto Settlers?
Do you automate settlers?

A. Yes
B. No
C. Sometimes
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Old May 27, 2002, 03:40   #2
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No - the auto Settler is far too stupid - he will irrigate unused squares before he roads used ones and all sorts of similar calumnies...

The only exception, very occassionally I might just be tempted to hit 'k' if I think that it might cause some illegal irregation - not in competition of course - just when I'm SPing for fun.

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Old May 27, 2002, 03:53   #3
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Ive been playing a game for 3 days now though many little 1 or 2 city islands. Roading hasn't been an issue and Im tired of telling them settlers what to do. Oh well will see if it hurts me any.
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Old May 27, 2002, 04:00   #4
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The only exception, very occassionally I might just be tempted to hit 'k' if I think that it might cause some illegal irregation
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So do I...
Oh, maybe later in the game when there is a lot of pollution I sacrifice 2 or 3 settlers to the "k" key, usually I'm not disappointed (they first go to the polluted square so they don't have time to create problems.
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I voted 'sometimes' but I should have said 'almost never'. The only time I automate is when there is no water around - as SG [1] intimated, sometimes an auto'ed settler will irrigate without a water source, which is handy when landlocked. BTW, some call this a cheat (??).

Otherwise, they tend to do dumb things like cut down irrigated forests, or destroy silkworm habitats, when automated. Usually the risk of wasted settler actions is too high to automate them.

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Old May 27, 2002, 10:27   #6
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No, automated settlers are idiots. And I'd never, ever, ever do it just to get a freebie irrigation. I would embark on a Mad Scheme to irrigate the entire 17 tile route from the nearest river, around the mountain, through two hill tiles…

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Old May 27, 2002, 11:31   #7
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Good for you StrayBow - I like eople who stick to their principals however costly they prove to be - I too like Mad Schemes

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Old May 27, 2002, 12:27   #8
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Straybow earned my respect!!! Geesh that mad scheme sounds like hard work.
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Old May 27, 2002, 17:29   #10
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...for the no water access irrigation trick thingy once in awhile but generally, no, if there is something left to do.
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No way they get selfcontrol...
(but it might take some time moving those ~450(or was it ~700) engineers around and let them transform all those plains )

(ps what is the chance of getting a caravan stuck on a mountain when it's the only not-RR square on the island,using the Go-to command ???...)

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Old May 27, 2002, 18:06   #12
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Only on two occasions might I automate settlers:
1. landlocked square, but even then only when doing it the "normal" way would require way too much effort.
And often even then the AI is too stupid, and runs away from the square I want it to irrigate. If I'm not alert enough I'll lose track of the settler and it'll destroy the countryside by leveling forests etc.
2. I'm in the end game, have way too many settlers/engineers and just want to clean pollution and boost the population. Then I'll automate the lot to turn everything into farmland and clean pollution.
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Never ever.

Re Mercator, I do see the upside of endgame pollution/farming automation. Guess I just seldom get to that point...
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Old May 28, 2002, 15:40   #15
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No
Tried it once but after that never again.
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(ps what is the chance of getting a caravan stuck on a mountain when it's the only not-RR square on the island,using the Go-to command ???...)
That's a no-brainer p = 1 of course!!!

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No-no-no!

That feature is far too stupid.

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No, AI is too stupid. The go-to command is already bad enough
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I once saw an automated settler irrigate a spice becouse the size 3 city only had 6 irrigated grasslands to choose from

so no, never, even if I have to move those 100 engineers
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No way (except maybe on a one-city, no-special island). The worst -- and this is where I learned my lesson -- is when you have a whole army of automated settlers/engineers late in the game, and a square gets polluted; 40 guys drop what they're doing, hope a train, and travel halfway across the continent to take care of it.
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Only once in a blue moon. Never in MP, but every now an then in SP i'll try for the for irrigation in the middle of nowhere. But since about 50% of the time the settler just moves off, I've kind of stop even trying.
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is when you have a whole army of automated settlers/engineers late in the game, and a square gets polluted; 40 guys drop what they're doing, hope a train, and travel halfway across the continent to take care of it.
It takes an army to clean up messes!!! LOLOL
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I have to teach my settlers how to "hope" a train.
Maybe it would save some research.

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Otherwise, they tend to do dumb things like cut down irrigated forests, or destroy silkworm habitats, when automated. Usually the risk of wasted settler actions is too high to automate them.
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Yes, the automated settler is dumb, but what is cutting down irrigated forrests
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I never use it. it's the same thing as cheating because if you do it in the MFN it can still irrigate.
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Yes, the automated settler is dumb, but what is cutting down irrigated forrests
A symptom of inadequate proofreading!

I think I either meant to say 'irrigating forests', or 'cutting down rivered forests'... but you get my point...

(automated settlers think silk on a river would make a nice plain... mmmm, buffalo steak, he thinks... )
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