New SMAC PBEM - New world

Fromage · May 28, 2002, 05:19

I am starting a new SMAC PBEM for 4-7 players.

The map will be randomly generated: large or huge (depends on how many players we get), average everything, all victory conditions. No AI. Directed research.

Also, everyone will get an extra colony pod and scout at the start of the game, to speeds things up.

We would need CMN here too. There shouldn't be too much work for CMN on random map.

Basic requirements:
1. Everyone must post at the turn tracking thread after every turn (With the exception of when the boards are down)
2. No dropping out, please.
3. Promise of playing the turn quickly. (At least 1turn /day)
4. Leave your email if you want in.

Phobos · May 28, 2002, 12:32

Im interested.
Ill take the Hive.

This will be my first MP-game so please be nice

I thought its time for me to try and play a PBEM-game.

My mail is syrad_alien@hotmail.com

KrysiasKrusader · May 28, 2002, 12:40

I would like to volunteer my services as CMN.

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First time I see you, Fromage. Your english seems pretty good for a french alias...

Fromage · May 28, 2002, 12:49

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Originally posted by KrysiasKrusader
I would like to volunteer my services as CMN.

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First time I see you, Fromage. Your english seems pretty good for a french alias...

Great. One player and CMN already.

I have been playing some SMAC games planetacol.com's forums for 1,5 years. It's pretty dead nowadays, so I came here to start a new game.

Actually, I am from Finland. I got french alias, because everyone knows that french people suck in war games. Everyone underestimates me and I can surprise em

smhfan86 · May 28, 2002, 14:31

i'll take UoP.

smhfan86 · May 28, 2002, 15:45

Hey Fromage, I noticed you copied and pasted the stuff from my thread, even down to the name of the game.

I would suggest changing the name as I might get confused playing two New World's.

Fromage · May 28, 2002, 16:02

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Originally posted by smhfan86
Hey Fromage, I noticed you copied and pasted the stuff from my thread, even down to the name of the game.

I would suggest changing the name as I might get confused playing two New World's.

Ups

I only meant to copy those basic rules from "New SMAC PBEM - Survival of the Fittest"?, because I liked em. Though I removed some of the randomness that was there.

You propably meant "The New World, turn tracking thread". I didn't even notice that before you told me about it. New world just was the first (stupid) name came to my mind

When the game starts, lets call this game "Red planet". I hope that is original name

Chaunk · May 28, 2002, 16:52

I'll take Gaia please

I'll post my email address when I decide which one to use. My regular email address has been playing up recently and I'm not happy...

smhfan86 · May 28, 2002, 17:45

ic. red planet it is then.

Fromage · May 28, 2002, 18:01

Perhaps I should take Morgans. I have never played with em (usually Hive or Gaians), but Morgans seem to be fun. So now we have:
Gaia . . Chaunk
Hive . . Phobos...
Univ . . smhfan86
Morgan . . Fromage

So Spartans, Peacekeepers and Belivers are still free.

Chaunk · May 28, 2002, 18:24

If you prefer Gaia, I'll take the PK's... your call.

Fromage · May 28, 2002, 18:48

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Originally posted by Chaunk
If you prefer Gaia, I'll take the PK's... your call.

Naah, keep the Gaians. It's fun to try something new.

Belivers are the only faction I hate. I even lost against computer when I tried them

Marid Audran · May 28, 2002, 21:56

Sign me up. This will be my first PBEM game. SMAC player for years, but only multiplayed briefly with a friend of mine IP-to-IP when it was initially released. Should be very interesting. Probably end up in a punishment sphere, but what the hey. This is SMAC vanilla, right? No SMAX?

I choose...*drum roll please* The BELIEVERS!

And may God have mercy on your soul, you heathens.

GeneralTacticus · May 29, 2002, 03:20

I'm up, I'll play the Spartans. My e-mail is angusniven@hotmail.com

Fromage · May 29, 2002, 06:06

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Originally posted by Marid Audran

I choose...*drum roll please* The BELIEVERS!

Well, I saw your hometown, so I allready guessed that you would pick believers

Gaia . . Chaunk
Hive . . Phobos...
Univ . . smhfan86
Morgan . . Fromage
Beliv . . Marid Audran
Sparta . . GeneralTacticus

Peacekeepers are still free.

knowhow2 · May 29, 2002, 06:41

PKs eh?

I'll take it.

lawalan@hotmail.com

Fromage · May 29, 2002, 06:50

I copy past the rules from other thread. Are these rules ok for everyone?

Game conditions are:

all winning conditions - yes
do or die - yes
look first - no
tech stagnation - no
spoils of war - no
directed research - yes
no unity survey
random scattering of Unity pods
Random events - yes

Suggested play rules:
• Communications - no communications before contact
• Retro-engineering - OK, except for using the probe rover chassis before discovering Doc. Mobility
• SE switches "quickies" forbidden - (obviously you can experiment to see what effect various SE choices have, but cannot change, play moves, then change back in the same turn)
• Council notification - immediate broadcast to all players (Post in the thread and e-mail in advance to all by player who anticipates calling the elections, citing candidates and votes. After each player's turn, post in the thread the running totals)
• Stockpiling in Qs anytime - OK
• Crawlers Upgrade anytime - OK
• Probe actions: Must choose vendetta option when probing other players, rebuke if a pactmate
• Cannot use the right click feature for multiple drop moves to extend range (ie limited to 8 tiles unless owning the Space Elevator SP)
• Cannot use the 'set waypoint' feature for automatic worm hunting/lifecycle enhancements
• Must 'Accept' or 'Decline' an offered Pact or Treaty that the other player has indicated 'Accepted' before exiting the diplo box and playing the turn (i.e. no accepting pending treaties/pacts *after* declaring vendetta in the same turn )
• Cannot use the F4 feature (or the bases feature of the F2 screen) to change an infiltrated faction's workers to specialists

Fromage · May 29, 2002, 07:02

Gaia - Chaunk - mj_blakemore@uk2.net
Hive - Phobos - syrad_alien@hotmail.com
Univ - smhfan86 - callistosdarkside@rogers.com
Morgan .- Fromage - juhahu@mail.suomi.net
Beliv - Marid Audran - guywheatley@sprintmail.com
Sparta - GeneralTacticus - angusniven@hotmail.com
PK - knowhow2 - lawalan@hotmail.com

Still some email addresses missing.

Marid, yes, this is SMAC game. Everyone here doesn't have SMAX, atleast I don't have that.

Everyone check those rules and see if they are ok. Then KrysiasKrusader can start making the game.

knowhow2 · May 29, 2002, 08:18

all fine by me

KrysiasKrusader · May 29, 2002, 10:25

Do you guys want any acceleration ? Such as colony pods and/or scout units ?

Also my e-mail is this .

Fromage · May 29, 2002, 10:34

In first message was: "Also, everyone will get an extra colony pod and scout at the start of the game, to speeds things up.
"

Forgot to mention level. I hope "Librarian Level" is ok for everyone?

Phobos · May 29, 2002, 10:44

Im Ok with that.
Also, if you have SMAX vers. 2.0 you dont need to upgrade SMAC right?

Marid Audran · May 29, 2002, 11:34

Gotcha Fromage. Librarian level is fine by me. My email is:

guywheatley@sprintmail.com

Anyway Phobos, I'd install patch 4.0 for SMAC if I were you; 2.0 SMAX has its own set of issues it corrected that are either irrelative or built upon those already fixed in 4.0 SMAC. I actually can't run classic under SMAX (terranx crash) so I have a seperate installation for SMAC on my system.

Actually, I'm not Mormon, but when you're around them enough, you need to purge the self-righteousness contamination somehow.

Question: How exactly is diplomacy handled since it's not in real time? Is there some PBEM specific setup the designers created? How is tech trading, credit loaning, base gifting, etc, handled?

Mongoose · May 29, 2002, 11:57

MA, It's exactly like hotseat. Probably a good idea to start a hoteseat game for yourself and to get familiar with the diplomatic interface.

Most rulesets prohibit base trading with the AI, though they allow gifting and extorting. There is no mechanism for trading or ceding bases between humans in the multiplayer diplomacy system. All base exchanges must be done by conquest.

Nor is there an automatic loan repayment mechanism between humans. If you lend another human ec, you depend upon his honor to repay the loan.

Chaunk · May 29, 2002, 12:43

mj_blakemore@uk2.net please

Phobos · May 29, 2002, 13:52

Quote:

All base exchanges must be done by conquest.

If i want to trade a base with an ally can i break the pact/treaty, conquer the base and then sign a pact/treaty again the other turn? Or is it forbidden?

Fromage · May 29, 2002, 14:02

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Originally posted by Phobos

If i want to trade a base with an ally can i break the pact/treaty, conquer the base and then sign a pact/treaty again the other turn? Or is it forbidden?

Sure you can do that.

Fromage · May 29, 2002, 14:33

This is for the new players; When you will get the first turn, play it like usually. When turn ends, it asks next players password. Don't write anything there.
- Just save the game with name like "Red Hive 2101" (Red [next players faction] [year]
- Zip the save file
- Send it to the next player. There will be turn tracking thread, so post a message there after you have played your turn. Then everyone knows where the turn is moving.

Also, try to play the turns as soon as possible. There are six people waiting. Of course everyone will have holidays or some other delays. If you are away from computer over 48h, you should post a message on forum, so everyone knows about the delay.

I think that's all.

Marid Audran · May 29, 2002, 15:22

smhfan86's email address is: callistosdarkside@rogers.com

That should be everyone, if the CMN is ready to start the game and assign passwords.

Thanks for the head's up Mongoose; I did a test game and the human diplomacy screen seems to be adequate. I'm ready to go: Red Planet!

Fromage · May 29, 2002, 15:46

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Originally posted by Marid Audran
smhfan86's email address is: callistosdarkside@rogers.com

That should be everyone, if the CMN is ready to start the game and assign passwords.

Already mailed to CMN couple of hours ago. First player should get his turn any time now.

I made turn reporting thread here:
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...threadid=51511