VP and IE Minister Canidacy Thread

Jon Shafer · June 21, 2002, 16:18

Due to unforseen circumstances, the Vice-President and Minister of Imperial Expansion positions have been left open for election once again. For all those who would like to run for either spot, please announce your canidacy here within 4 days (before the elections start).

Vice President:
Timeline (DIA)
Vlad Antlerkov (UFC)

Minister of Imperial Expansion:
Jonny (DIA)
skywalker (UFC)
GodKing (I)

Kuciwalker · June 21, 2002, 16:21

I'm a candidate for Imperial Expansion

Inverse Icarus · June 21, 2002, 16:22

for what party?

or, independent?

Kuciwalker · June 21, 2002, 16:27

I want to be a Coalition (Popular Front) candidate.

Jon Shafer · June 21, 2002, 16:28

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Originally posted by skywalker
I want to be a Coalition (Popular Front) candidate.

Okay, I'll change it then.

Panag · June 21, 2002, 16:31

hi ,

so when is the finish for the new candidates job openings , .....

have a nice day

Jon Shafer · June 21, 2002, 16:32

Monday, 1900 GMT (noon for me).

Panag · June 21, 2002, 16:35

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Originally posted by Trip
Monday, 1900 GMT (noon for me).

hi ,

and when do the poll's start , ....

have a nice day

Jon Shafer · June 21, 2002, 16:35

Quote:

Originally posted by panag
and when do the poll's start , ....

The same time Panag, when canidacy has been determined.

Panag · June 21, 2002, 17:01

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Originally posted by Trip

The same time Panag, when canidacy has been determined.

hi ,

you should ask that the candidates post a message here , and say what they want to run for , ...

including the ones on the top , so that other people can see they do , ...

no more banana guy's , who flip over to the eternal jungles , .....

have a nice day

Harovan · June 21, 2002, 17:07

What does Timeline do if Vlad Antlerkov will be elected as VP? Resign his current office?

Jon Shafer · June 21, 2002, 17:09

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Originally posted by Sir Ralph
What does Timeline do if Vlad Antlerkov will be elected as VP? Resign his current office?

Linney has to resign from IE minister first. You can't say "well, if I win this election then I'll become this, but if I don't, then I'll stay as what I am."

He either goes for VP or he doesn't.

Panag · June 21, 2002, 17:13

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Originally posted by Trip

Linney has to resign from IE minister first. You can't say "well, if I win this election then I'll become this, but if I don't, then I'll stay as what I am."

He either goes for VP or he doesn't.

hi ,

, no-one should hold two office's neither , ....

have a nice day

BTW , the point you talk about , is it all in the constitution , .......

GodKing · June 21, 2002, 18:43

Toss my name in for IE

Godking (independant)

As an independant I refuse to stick to any party dogma!!!
I will do as my will and conscious dictate.
I shall place the cities so as to make us strong and prosper. To make the public works go smoothly and to get us as many resources as possible. Some day there will be war, and we shall build on the remains of others. I shall work to place all the cities to help maximise the remaining roads and fields. To help extend our boarders so that the world shall know our name. One day we shall rule, and I shall place the cities to help make that happen. Thank you for your vote.

civman2000 · June 21, 2002, 19:13

Trip: I disagree. In the civ2 game people have ran for multiple positions and there has been no trouble. I see no reason that Timeline should (technically) have to resign to run, only resign to have the position

Kingof the Apes · June 21, 2002, 19:18

And if he loses, whoever wins IE office is kicked out???

No, that would be unfair.

GodKing · June 21, 2002, 19:26

Wow Trip - thanks for editing the first post and adding me so fast. I will be gone most of this weekend so I shall check in on monday (will try to make sunday chat - but sundays, tuesdays and wednesdays are generally bad - girlfriend and night time grad school). Thanks.

Jon Shafer · June 21, 2002, 19:29

No problem.

Since you got your canidacy in, that's good. You won't have to worry until Monday about anything else, though you may lose some campaigning time.

GodKing · June 21, 2002, 19:39

Not to worried about that - I'm guessin that 70% +/- will vote along some party line...... Of course, that is 35% : 35% and me getting 30%, so I figure I have only to find (of the 40 +/- people who do vote) only a couple to swing to something a little more independant.....

jdd2007 · June 21, 2002, 20:38

i wish u good luck, godking. remember, only about half (seriously give or take) of all citizens here are in one of the major parties...

u will need to do extensive campaiging because u dont have others to help out.

im sorry, but vlad is the best choice in my eyes for the position. plus, he is the candidate from my party.

Inverse Icarus · June 21, 2002, 20:40

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Originally posted by jdd2007
i wish u good luck, godking. remember, only about half (seriously give or take) of all citizens here are in one of the major parties...

u will need to do extensive campaiging because u dont have others to help out.

im sorry, but vlad is the best choice in my eyes for the position. plus, he is the candidate from my party.

more like 1/3... theres like 100 people and 30 party memebers tops.

jdd2007 · June 21, 2002, 20:48

well, there was 142 when i last checked, uber, so that makes it roughly a fifth of all citizens. where are the others, the independents? are they just watching, or biding their time, or what? every party wants more members, its like oct-nov 2000 when the 'undecideds' were scaring everyone.

Jon Shafer · June 21, 2002, 20:50

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Originally posted by jdd2007
well, there was 142 when i last checked, uber, so that makes it roughly a fifth of all citizens. where are the others, the independents? are they just watching, or biding their time, or what? every party wants more members, its like oct-nov 2000 when the 'undecideds' were scaring everyone.

Actually, there's 154.

My theory is that most people don't even come by here often. Even the most popular polls don't get up to 70 people, which is half.

Timeline · June 21, 2002, 21:36

Hey, just a question, don't get mad at me.

As IE minister shouldn't I be able to turn over the soon-to-be vacant office to my deputy the rest of the term?

If the prez left then the VP would take over, there would'nt be another election.

Trip, I humbly and respectfully request you post a neutral poll on this issue to the people.

To the effect of:

Should IE Minister's deputy take over for the remainder of the term?
Or should there be another election?

Thanks,
Time

Jon Shafer · June 21, 2002, 21:40

Linney I will answer that honestly and fairly, and I must say that I think that is pretty cheap. The President and the VP offices are elected seperately. You can't say "well since, VP takes over for the President, some guy I choose gets to take over for me if I leave. If the President got to choose his VP and there were no election, then I could see the similiarity. However, that isn't the case. For that fact, I think it would be incredibly low to even consider something like that.

Timeline · June 21, 2002, 21:48

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Originally posted by Trip
, I think it would be incredibly low to even consider something like that.

You don't have to insult me, I was just asking a question.

BTW, I have not resigned or been impeached so I am still acting as IE Minister, I don't this will be a problem.

As for your opinion....even though you were rude and quite clearly biased, I will respect your decision as the President of our nation. I don't agree with what your saying, but I won't argue with you. Jonny came in second place in the votes last time and I suspect he will win this election hands down. I was merely asking a question.

Inverse Icarus · June 21, 2002, 21:55

when did we decide to have deputies?

not flaming, serious question, i dont have one...

Timeline · June 21, 2002, 21:57

A deputy in the Civ 2 game was pretty much the person who came in second in votes.

Everyone should have some kind of back-up person in case something happens and you cant make a turnchat etc.

Jon Shafer · June 21, 2002, 21:59

If you can give me a reason why we, in this game, should treat the situation between President and Vice-President (2 sepereately elected positions) the same as a minister and a non-official position chosen by the minister the same, then I will certainly consider it. But the way I see it now, I, well, I don't agree with it.

Ninot · June 21, 2002, 22:00

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Originally posted by Trip
Linney I will answer that honestly and fairly, and I must say that I think that is pretty cheap. The President and the VP offices are elected seperately. You can't say "well since, VP takes over for the President, some guy I choose gets to take over for me if I leave. If the President got to choose his VP and there were no election, then I could see the similiarity. However, that isn't the case. For that fact, I think it would be incredibly low to even consider something like that.

I agree completely with the process of election and the process of what happens with a vacant slot, but im confused on the dialogue between Timeline and Trip. Like.. most of the convo is understandable, its just the first and last line of Trip's post that confuze me. .

well.. what are you referring to as "cheap" and what are you reffering to as "low".. Timeline's statements, or the process he is describing?

I wont base any judgement untill im less dumb on the topic, lol.

/EDIT took out a line that was not edited out on my first revisal. And i think i have my answer.. but Trip's post at the top of page 2 still makes statements about "insults".. so im not whiping this post.