Your nation is at war, you are conscripted.. - Page 3

Messer Niccolò · July 17, 2002, 11:22

Navy

drake · July 17, 2002, 11:28

Air Force.........they get the best food and housing. Army? Why would I want to be cannon fodder?

David Floyd · July 17, 2002, 11:28

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You are volunteering, David. Stop with the false bravado.

Eh?

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Go home, goddamn peaceniks.

That's the point

DinoDoc · July 17, 2002, 11:33

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Originally posted by David Floyd
Eh?

Aren't you the one signing up as an Army lawyer?

Bereta_Eder · July 17, 2002, 11:34

navy/technician (user) of offensive artillery cannons.

David Floyd · July 17, 2002, 11:44

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Aren't you the one signing up as an Army lawyer?

I was - I'm ineligible now because of the pins in my arm.

However, I was doing that as a "Help David get ahead" thing, not a "Serve my country" thing. I decided that the risk of going into combat was low, and the possible benefits were worth the risk.

Yes, I could've ended up in conflict, but I doubt it, and this was one of those situations in which it was in my own self interest to take the risk.

If the US was at war (and I don't mean this bullshit War on Terror) I wouldn't even consider it.

drake · July 17, 2002, 11:48

Ahh yes, everytime we forget, david reminds us what a gutless wonder he is

Andemagne · July 17, 2002, 11:51

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Originally posted by aaglo
I would pick army (infantry), because that was what I was trained to. My rank is vänrikki (second lieutenant).

wow man I did not know that.

what regulars (kiffe), anti-tank or guerilla?

Immortal Wombat · July 17, 2002, 12:43

Depends who I'm fighting against, where the war is, and why we're fighting.

Canada.

DinoDoc · July 17, 2002, 12:49

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Originally posted by Immortal Wombat
Depends who I'm fighting against, where the war is, and why we're fighting.

Why would where the war was taking place be an issue?

Dauphin · July 17, 2002, 12:54

If was taking place in the middle of a continental land mass, then he would join the navy.

Lemmy · July 17, 2002, 13:07

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If was taking place in the middle of a continental land mass, then he would join the navy.

i think the main difference would be if it was fought domestically or on foreig territory.

Dan Severn · July 17, 2002, 13:26

I'd rather die for my country...

Than spend a lifetime hearing what dipshit corrupt politicians have to say.

Sic semper tyrranus, eh?

Q Classic · July 17, 2002, 13:57

sava, tech support?

"the missile won't fire? um... have you tried taking off in the plane?

have you tried pressing the missile fire button?

oh, hm.. have you tried arming the missile?

well, then, is the missile connected to your plane?

well, in that case, it's not a hardware issue. there must be something wrong with your finger."

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seriously, i'd try and join up with the shadow government agencies that run the whole damn thing anyway. barring that, maybe be a electronic warfare technician for starfleet. beats being a puny stormtrooper.

Sava · July 17, 2002, 14:01

Qcubed... of course I didn't mean it like that, but that was funny...

mactbone · July 17, 2002, 14:06

In the Navy!

Just to be different, the Army does appeal to me somewhat.

Oh, and if they started drafting and I was out of college and not married I would join pretty dang quick so I didn't end up a groundpounder.

David Floyd · July 17, 2002, 16:28

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Ahh yes, everytime we forget, david reminds us what a gutless wonder he is

I don't understand why everyone says draft dodgers are cowards - it takes just as much, and probably more, courage to go against the flow than it does to go with it.
That runs doubly true for the COs in WW2 - in my book, that took far more courage than fighting the war.

Boris Godunov · July 17, 2002, 16:31

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Originally posted by Dan Severn
I'd rather die for my country...

Than spend a lifetime hearing what dipshit corrupt politicians have to say.

Sic semper tyrranus, eh?

Why would you want to die in a war most likely created by those same dipshit corrupt politicians?

DF:

People bash COs because it's easy and takes no thought. Just mindless patriotism.

Az · July 17, 2002, 16:46

CO ?

DinoDoc · July 17, 2002, 16:51

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Originally posted by Dalgetti
CO ?

Concientious Objector (sp).

They are the ones that get my respect as opposed to draft dodgers. Running away from your problem just has the stink of cowardice all over it.

Immortal Wombat · July 17, 2002, 19:16

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Why would where the war was taking place be an issue?

If I was fighting to defend my homeland, I'd fight. If we were fighting an aggressive war (which would be unlikely to conscript anyway) I would almost certainly object, in a concientious manner. If we were fighting to defend a colony, I would fight, but join the service least likely to get me killed.

aaglo · July 18, 2002, 02:56

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Originally posted by Andemagne wow man I did not know that.

what regulars (kiffe), anti-tank or guerilla?

Regulars (Jääkäri =Jager?)... and I think that grenade lauchers are part of the infantry too...

Sikander · July 18, 2002, 04:02

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Originally posted by Victor Galis
Well... again, by yours do you mean the one I was born in, the one I live in, or the other one I'm a citizen of?

It doesn't matter which one, the minute you opened your mouth whichever country it was would want to deport you to the enemy.

Sikander · July 18, 2002, 04:17

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Originally posted by David Floyd
I don't understand why everyone says draft dodgers are cowards - it takes just as much, and probably more, courage to go against the flow than it does to go with it.
That runs doubly true for the COs in WW2 - in my book, that took far more courage than fighting the war.

Yea, I can imagine how much tougher it was to face all those disapproving looks. My uncle had it easy, just kicking back for the most part. I mean infantry training isn't that hard right? Especially when you spend a couple of years doing it. And he only had to fight in three campaigns, Guadalcanal, Saipan and Okinawa. Guadalcanal and Saipan were long sure, and Okinawa was intense, but I'm sure there were some long and intense stuff going on with the COs. And of course my uncle had to deal with killing people, his friends getting killed, and his unit shooting up a few civilians accidently one night. That was pretty tough, but he only dreams about that woman screaming once a month now. And hey, the combat guys got all the dames, so that's some consolation. Unless you were dead, or in my uncle's case in the hospital for 8 months right through the end of the war and beyond trying to fight off a serious series of infections from your wounds, the worst of which takes off a couple of inches of the business end of your manhood while the rest of the country is celebrating. But you're right, I'm sure it took more courage to be a CO.

I know that some of the COs served in hazardous situations etc., and I know it was hard, but it's hard to be a soldier in combat too, it's hard for a moral man to kill. It takes a lot of courage.

Sikander · July 18, 2002, 04:19

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Originally posted by Oerdin
I used to be in the Army but if I had to do it over again I'd take the Air Force.

Why, did you turn into a ***** in the interim?

Frankychan · July 18, 2002, 06:42

I'd go for Army for the simple fact that I'm a psychology major and getting my bachelor's in psy, I'd automatically outrank my cousin (who I consider a brother) and for the fact that I'd like to mess with our enemies minds.

Oooooh, my psycho powers will make you do as I say!!!

Nubclear · July 18, 2002, 07:46

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Originally posted by frankychan
I'd go for Army for the simple fact that I'm a psychology major and getting my bachelor's in psy, I'd automatically outrank my cousin (who I consider a brother) and for the fact that I'd like to mess with our enemies minds.

Oooooh, my psycho powers will make you do as I say!!!

Explains the Though Control SE choice....

Anyway, my morality tells me that its completly wrong to kill (unless its ABSOLUTELY REQUIRED) so I'd run to switzerland

Andemagne · July 18, 2002, 10:14

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Originally posted by aaglo
Regulars (Jääkäri =Jager?)... and I think that grenade lauchers are part of the infantry too...

jep thats true. grenadiers of course. I'm a Guerilla with also recon training.

aaglo · July 18, 2002, 10:15

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Originally posted by Tassadar5000
Anyway, my morality tells me that its completly wrong to kill (unless its ABSOLUTELY REQUIRED) so I'd run to switzerland

Nah, this just proves, that you are SCARED AS HELL of me and my team.

We are waiting just behind the border, near Viipuri...