Official: The Annales of Apolytonia

History Guy · July 30, 2002, 15:44

Here is the start of the history book of Apolytonia. I ask, nay, beg that the moderators make this one sticky!
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THE ANNALES OF APOLYTONIA

Sometime, long forgotten, far in the past, mankind was born. Since the conception of this race of men, this single animal, among all others, has survived, flourished, and indeed, has triumphed. Though at first, man must have been up against incalculable odds, he has overcome these obstacles, and built cities. Overtime from cities there came kingdoms, and from kingdoms came empires. From empires there came civilizations. A city, indeed, a kingdom is not hard at all to find, but a civilization, this is different. A civilization is a people that have transcended the normal bounds of humanity. From making clubs out of flint, he makes swords out of iron, from drinking out of a stone bowl, to drinking out of a glass vessel; this is how civilization improves. And yet, civilization is more than moving up from stone to glass, it is leaving an indelible mark on humanity, creating words, thoughts, and matter, the likes of which are outstanding, and worth preservation. A civilization, like, say the Apolytonians, has done all this, but a barbarian kingdom like the Huns, for example, has not. Of course, we prideful Apolytonians, mindful of our great and worldly empire and civilization must remember above all things our past. We must also remember that we were once also barbarians like the vanished Huns, or the conquered Americans. It would serve us all now to create a lasting memory in words of the collected deeds and thoughts of the early Apolytonians, from their humble beginnings in the darkness of the jungle to the globe spanning empire of the present, and this is what I, Gaius Publius History Guy, have started the work of doing.

The legends of the beginnings of our race are many, and profuse. Such mythological characters as King Ming, the troll-smiter, have many different tales written of them, such as the voyage across the seas of King Ming to find the ‘infallible banana’, which was believed to hold the secrets of eternal life. Unfortunately, much of that tale is now lost to history, a sad testament of the need to preserve our past. Exactly where our peoples began as a kingdom is unknown as well. Apparently, it was in a far-away place called Egypt that the primitive men began to become civilized. Legends tell us of a once mighty kingdom, ruled over by the House of Pharaohs. No enemy, but one, could defeat the mighty Egyptians. Only small pieces of history from this dark period remain, including a tablet, carried from the forgotten city of Heliopolis, destroyed by the one nameless barbarian who conquered, but also fell to the avenging Egyptians, who fled the destroyed kingdom as nomads. The tablet shows a king preparing to smite a small individual with a huge, down turned mouth. Perhaps this is an image of King Ming, the troll-smiter. Other events have been recorded, but most are mythological. Two names of leaders still exist as well: Cleopatra, the final queen of Egypt, and Tutankamun. Exactly what they did is a mystery.

The nomads packed their bags in a hurry, leaving the burned out ruins of a once glorious past to the ravages of time. Treks down to the south, over seas, rivers, and mountains, have been recorded as a series of tales known as the Bananii, ‘the Wisdoms’, but most of them are probably concoctions of the ancient mind, and are filled with mythical creatures, and a menagerie of gods. One part, though, proven to be accurate, is the part written about a war against enemy barbarian tribes, deep in the heart of the jungle where our own civilization evolved. Evidence of this hundred-year fight has actually been discovered. According to the legends, the king of these nomads, in desperation, consulted a prophet, asking whether they should abandon the move south. The prophet responded that the king should push onward, and that if he did, he would not only defeat the enemy, but found the city that would become the capital of a mighty civilization, that would one day come to dominate the entire world.

The king then asked the prophet, “Where, O Prophet, will I build this city?” The prophet scratched his huge beard, pondered the question, and responded, “You shall build at a spot where you see a mighty fish shooting up sea-spray to your right, and a huge gathering of bananas to your left.” Apparently, this is what was discovered in the year 3950 BC. The sighting was remarkable, as to the left of the nomads was a jungle, and from a tall banana tree there hung a large clump of bananas, a symbol of wisdom to the ancient Apolytonians, and on the right there was the shore-line to the great sea. Sure enough, off shore a bit was a huge whale, coming up to the surface for air, and spouting out spray. Immediately, construction began on the city of Apolyton. Before the city was completed, however, the king died, leaving no heir, and so the great minds of the city gathered together and created a new form of government, that which is by the people, and for the people: democracy.

Nubclear · July 30, 2002, 16:23

Great job!

/Edited so that Will 5001 wouldn't wine. Happy now?

Will 5001 · July 30, 2002, 18:02

Tass, you didn't have to quote the entire post, you were the first to reply, thats just being greedy for the space!

Edit: Great work History guy

Edit again: Yes I am very happy now Tass

GodKing · July 30, 2002, 18:10

WOW. I like.
Send it to MarkG. He might post it on the news.

themagicbanana · July 30, 2002, 22:52

no,i do not like it. it is bad.

July 30, 2002, 22:54

Quote:

Originally posted by themagicbanana
no,i do not like it. it is bad.

Either you're being sarcastic, or you don't realize that you need to back up agruments with specific points. Do you have any particular reasons for saying this?

BTW, I liked it. Just give us more of the same, and get caught up to our current time.

Kramerman · July 30, 2002, 22:56

Thats good stuff

MrWhereItsAt · July 31, 2002, 01:05

Quote:

Originally posted by themagicbanana
no,i do not like it. it is bad.

WOOP! WOOP! DL ALERT!

Send in the Mods!

rush · July 31, 2002, 01:51

I don't like it. Too many commas !

notyoueither · July 31, 2002, 02:51

Sush. We haven't had anything for 3000 years and now you complain?!

I might move to abolish elections for this position if the qualified individuals would feel more free to work.

History Guy · July 31, 2002, 12:03

Thanks all for the enthusiastic responses...from the most of ye. I'm afraid I've hit something nasty here. Firstly, I can't find a complete list of the members of the last regime, and secondly, Unorthodox, who is doing some research for me, has discovered that due to editing by our last president, there is a 500 year gap early in our timeline, and we can't find evidence of what happened then. This is tough stuff indeed!

Aro · July 31, 2002, 12:26

I like the commas. In my old age, I need every one to take a breath...

Great work, Mr. History Guy. And very necessary too.
About the 500 year gap, when exactly it has occurred? I mean, what years are missed?

Kuciwalker · July 31, 2002, 12:28

I love it!

History Guy · July 31, 2002, 13:04

Thanks again, everyone. The gap is from 3950 BC to 3250 BC. Any info is appreciated in this monumental effort! Thanks again.

UnOrthOdOx · July 31, 2002, 13:12

Yeah, specifically, when did the settler join, how long did he travel.

I proposed the following extrapilation.

Apolyton settled in 3950 five turns to make warrior brings us to 3700.

We can assume that the goodie hut was at least two turns away, or it would have been in culture borders, so we are now at 3600. Banana HQ was settled in 3400, now, did the settler move one or two squares? plus a turn to actually settle. Leaving us with a joining date of 3600 - 3500, likely 3550, but hard evidence would be nice.

When was the worker produced? A second warrior, etc. When did we discover the abandoned village...

Captain · July 31, 2002, 14:03

well, it's too late now, this thread has been tainted with extraneous comments, so i don't feel bad posting here. but i think we should have a dedicated topped thread with just the history so we can read it all at once, without having to hunt for it through all these extra posts about how great the stories are.

btw, the story so far is great!

Spiffor · July 31, 2002, 16:01

Excellent work HIstory Guy !

When I sent you our raw turnlogs, There were holes in them. I don't know if this adrees willhelp, but I hope so : http://65.35.54.206:3000/Trip/Turn%20Log.html

And now, the previous cabinet, IIRC :

President : Trip
Vice President : Space05us then Timeline
Minister of Foreign Affairs : Ninot
SMC : UberKrux
Minister of science : Tassadar5000
Minister of public works : Eli
City Planner : Punkbass2000
Minister of Finance : civman2000 (don't capitalize the C)
Minister of Trade : Spiffor
Minister of Imperial Expansion : Timeline, then Jonny
Historian : HazieDaVampire

I think that's all.

UnOrthOdOx · August 1, 2002, 10:14

That link got us a few more turns in:

End of turn 10, 3500 BC
Move settler NE, a mountain came into view

Turn 11, 3450 BC
Warrior 1 moves W
New warrior 2 in Apolyton fortifies there
Settler moves NE
Worker 1 builds road

Turn 12, 3400 BC
Warrior 1 moves NW, finds Goody Hut
Settler builds city 'Thebes'

Turn 13, 3350 BC
Warrior 1 moves NW, 1 tile away from goody hut
Worker 1 moves W and N towards the city of Thebes

Turn 14, 3300 BC
Apolyton builds Worker 2, which moves north towards Thebes
Warrior 2 in Apolyton goto command to Thebes
Warrior 1 moves W and uncovers Goody Hut: Deserted
Warrior 1 finds open plains and a French Warrior

So, i guess we are one step closer to the mystery. The settler still could have been discovered in 3500 earlier in the turn. (it was a 700 year gap, now it's 500...)

I've correlated the dates that civman and Space05s left office by comparing actual dates on the threads to the dates of reports. Still looking for when Timeline became VP, Jonny appointed MIE, and the Minister of Economy came into being (gotta find a report of the same date or close). Also have found dates for all parties creation, inculding a few forgotten parties. May have missed a few of the small ones that disbanded though. (sorry forgot all the particulars, PM'd all info to History Guy)

We will probably need a thread for just the history like captain said, but this research is desperately needed as well. More involved people=less work.

Donegeal · August 1, 2002, 22:50

Ok, History Guy (or who ever might know), When and where did we develope the Alphabet and writting? Or did we get it from another Civ? Only wondering because the language a civ speaks tells alot about the Civ. Take Quebec (spelling?) for instance. Its a French speaking province in an English speaking country. The result: several attemps to susceed from the country. I know that there are several other reason for these attemps, but it is just an example of the power of language.

Spiffor · August 2, 2002, 02:35

Our Alphabet is English, forgot about our writing.
The only techs we have researched on our own is Ceremonial Burial, Masonry and Bronze working.
It means our early religious traditions come from us, and have been spread in Abanaba major (the French techwhored it)
It means we have a very unique architecture one can find only in Iroquois empire, maybe elsewhere in Abanaba minor.
It means however, that our philospohy, mathematics, polytheism etc. are not ours. Same will go with construction and currency.

As alnguage is not a tech, I assume every Civ starts with its own language, passed down by many generations.

jdjdjd · August 2, 2002, 10:03

Quote:

Originally posted by Captain
well, it's too late now, this thread has been tainted with extraneous comments, so i don't feel bad posting here. but i think we should have a dedicated topped thread with just the history so we can read it all at once, without having to hunt for it through all these extra posts about how great the stories are.

btw, the story so far is great!

I agree with this. I have taken to using this thread to write my stories, as the glorious King Ming might do, when searching for a nasty troll.

jdjdjd · August 2, 2002, 10:08

Quote:

Originally posted by jdjdjd

I agree with this. I have taken to using this thread to write my stories, as the glorious King Ming might do, when searching for a nasty troll.

That was a horrible analogy. Sorry.

Panag · August 6, 2002, 14:29

hi ,

great , we should have more of this stuff

have a nice day

History Guy · August 7, 2002, 10:56

I know. I've got to get the second bit done. I hope I'll be able to run next month...I've got so little time these days!

godinex · August 7, 2002, 12:32

Why You don´t eliminate all of the other stuff and let only the history ones?

carpathia · August 8, 2002, 02:48

Thats good stuff. I like what you done here. Keep up the good work.

History Guy · August 15, 2002, 18:50

By the way, I've resigned from the post. There is no other reason to it than that I really don't have the time. I am sorry to have to report this. If I had more time, I'd be glad to do this, but unfortunately, this cannot be the case, for now at any rate.

I put forward Unorthodox as my candidate for successor.

I myself shall be satisfied as a mere senator/patrician, living a quiet life. Perhaps I shall become a general, or a member of the government with little importance. As long as I have the time for that, it's OK.

GodKing · August 15, 2002, 19:09

Sorry to see you go, you wrote quite well. Come back soon.

Panag · August 17, 2002, 10:52

Quote:

Originally posted by History Guy
By the way, I've resigned from the post. There is no other reason to it than that I really don't have the time. I am sorry to have to report this. If I had more time, I'd be glad to do this, but unfortunately, this cannot be the case, for now at any rate.

I put forward Unorthodox as my candidate for successor.

I myself shall be satisfied as a mere senator/patrician, living a quiet life. Perhaps I shall become a general, or a member of the government with little importance. As long as I have the time for that, it's OK.

hi ,

well , its a shame you go , ......we shall think about you ones in a while , ....

anyway , grab a case of banana on the way out , ....

Unorthodox shall do a good job , well he could learn from you , what do you expect , ...

have a nice live

History Guy · August 17, 2002, 11:14

Thanks Panag. Unfortunately, Unorthodox can't take the job. The post is open for those who want it.

The case of bananas is great! I won't be leaving the game, just the post. I'll hang around in the shadows as a benevolent (well...most of the time) patrician and arm-chair (well...most of the time) tactician.