View Poll Results: Which civs have you NEVER played as?
Americans 41 6.87%
Aztecs 48 8.04%
Babylonians 25 4.19%
Chinese 33 5.53%
Egyptians 18 3.02%
English 50 8.38%
French 35 5.86%
Germans 24 4.02%
Greeks 19 3.18%
Indians 49 8.21%
Iroquois 51 8.54%
Japanese 38 6.37%
Persians 25 4.19%
Romans 14 2.35%
Russians 48 8.04%
Zulus 66 11.06%
I've played as all of them 13 2.18%
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Old August 16, 2002, 15:25   #31
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I don't think i'll ever try the Zulus. You must have a real short window of opportunity to dominate when your UU is 1/2/2 and how do you capitalize off of such an early GA? I think they must attack swiftly before Spearman come around, which must neutralize their UU's offensive capability, rendering them as faster spearman.
The impi is a faster spearman. Move a stack of horsemen and a few impi around together and use them to wreak havoc. The impi should be used to provide cover for horsemen, not as an attacker. Postponing military use of the impi until you have horsemen will delay your Golden Age. Granted, I haven't actually used this strategy myself, but it seems pretty obvious.

Early warmongering is the obvious strategy for the Zulu, given their traits and early UU. That's why I'm not particularly inclined to play them, not being much of a warmonger myself.
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wow, 50% havent played as the iroqs! IMO they're one of the best!
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Old August 17, 2002, 18:35   #33
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Huh? It was 10.36% when I checked. They are the least-played civ after the Zulus. Don't really see why.
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Old August 18, 2002, 01:30   #34
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What REALLy surprises me about this vote is that not even 2 out of 100 players have played all civs yet! I thought it was pretty common to have played all of them, otherwise it's not really possible to have a verified opinion on which civ you like best and whom you dislike.
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I always play as Rome (although I did try the babs just once).


The ONLY reason that there are other civs in this game is so I can frag them.
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Old August 18, 2002, 17:38   #36
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Old August 18, 2002, 17:42   #37
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I ALWAYS play as the germans (how odd.. I love roman history and I'm playing instead with those who burned up Rome to the ground and trashed any sign of human civilization in Europe for about 800 years )

BTW, roman city names are all messed up and they suck as a civ. In all my prev games I always gave all my techs to them for free, but they STILL got trashed within 30 turns -looks like after building 10 cities or so they just sit on their useless uranium and have a cup of tea

I could never play against the germans, love too much Berlin
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Old August 19, 2002, 15:11   #38
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The Greeks are the vile underbelly of a pig in too much mud....they swiftly killed me in my first go at the game...since then I put them in every game and go after them like a poop fly that hasn't seen a turd in a week.
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Old August 19, 2002, 16:55   #39
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I never played as an american, iroquois and English because don´t like the expansionist ability and his UU (except the Man-o-war really sucks).
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About horseback riding again... When you research The Wheel, you see the horse resource. you actually research Horseback Riding after the Wheel and that's often historically bullshit. I dont know any native american tribes that ever used wheel but in Civ3 it's still that way (in civ2 it was vice-versa).
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Don't knock the Zulus.

The key to using the Zulus is to remeber that the Impi is NOT an attacking unit. As a mobile defensive unit, it keeps mobile attackers, like Horsemen/Mounted Warriors and Jaguar Warriors, from retreating from combat (their best ability). So, the mobile unit rushes early attackers favor don't work with the Zulu. Also, the Impi makes an awesome disruption unit, able to go deep into enemy territory to destroy terrain improvements (especially roads), and survive to fight/defend again. Have you ever dealt with an enemy civ whose units tore apart your supply lines, causing you to lose access to horses and/or iron? Usually, those units have puny defense but are highly mobile, so killing them is difficult. The Impi is fast AND as tough as a Spearman. AND, it allows the player to keep a smaller defensive force because of the Impi's mobility (move to reinforce where needed). Your comment about the Impi offense doesn't make sense, because any smart Zulu player would go on offense using the Archers THEY START WITH, with Impi as stack defenders.

As far as their traits go, they are far from the best, but they can shine on the larger maps. With more goody huts to exploit, the Expansionist trait becomes really useful. To put Militaristic to work, you HAVE to go to war. The Zulu keep up in the tech race by demanding techs from subjugated civs and exploring goody huts, not by research.

Play each civ to it's strengths.
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I've tried all of them. However, I rarely ever play as England, Russia, India or Babylon. I definitely prefer Japan, China, Germany, or America.
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Old August 26, 2002, 11:28   #43
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Top 5 Least Played Civs (according to this poll so far)

1 Zulus
2 Iroquois
3 Indians
4 English
5 Russians

Can't say the results surprise me, except that the Indians are so unpopular. I mean, they're not that bad??
I guess the reason the Americans (expanionists, lousy UU) aren't among the top 5 is Civ3's popularity in the US.
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And the top 5 most played Civs (according to the poll):

1. Romans
2. Egypts
3. Greeks
4. Persians
5. Babylonians
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Old August 26, 2002, 16:08   #45
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Yes, if by "least played" and "most played" you're referring to the number of people who've played them, not how often they're played. That's a separate, but related, issue.

Why do the percentages in the poll total 100%? You can choose more than one option, can't you? If you select x options, is that just counted as x separate votes? Not very accurate, IMO.
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To my shame I have to confess I've only played as the Germans and Persians . Maybe it's time for some Íroquois action.....
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hi ,

if there would be more "civ specific abilities" then more people would play more civs , ....

it would also be fun to play one turn as Russia , the next as the Germans , then like the Americans , ...

in civ2 you have that option , in civ 3 not , ...

it would be nice to see it come back , this way you can play whoever you want , ... all civs in one game , ...

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Sounds like it's a hotseat game you're talking about... You don't need to be several players to be able to play hotseat games (And the seat doesn't get hot, if you play all the civs )
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Sounds like it's a hotseat game you're talking about... You don't need to be several players to be able to play hotseat games (And the seat doesn't get hot, if you play all the civs )
hi ,

yes a hotseat , but a good one , not like most games have today , something new , something improved , something advanced , ......

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How would you make hotseat more advanced?
hi ,

okay , some games have a "hotseat" , but it aint even worth the name , .....

a hotseat should be an easy option , you should have the ability to play each player without limits , ...

actually if you look at most games that have a hotseat you can see that none of them are perfect , ....

maybe a bit brainstorming here would bring answers and solutions , ....

well it should go in its own thread , ...

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Most people with their home nations as Civ's will be played the most. ie I usally end up as English.

PS. England has had to be crafty thughout history to suvivive. It's the British way.
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Most people with their home nations as Civ's will be played the most. ie I usally end up as English.
That's not my case (Sure, Denmark wont be in the game... )...I proberbly wont play the Vikings much (Unless the random thingy hits the Vikings often of course...)
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I rarely play anything other than the Chinese or Persians. I have gotten so used to building roads in a turn that I can't stand anything but industial civs. I have never played as the Japanese or the English. I guess I have something against them.
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I make a point of playing them all. I would probably pick the Americans for worst UU though. Staring a Golden Age is tricky, like a couple games ago when I went to war with a small neighboer to start a GA, and they only had 5 bombers. It worked, but that's not as conveinent as the other UUs.
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It's probably easier to trigger an American Golden Age using Great Woneders.
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I have never played as India, America and France, and I will propabily never will, perhaps with the exception of France.

I have played as the Zulus, the English, the Babylonians and the Germans but I do not find them matching my gaming style. I never pick them, unless I have chosen the random option.

The rest, like the Egyptians, the Greeks, the Aztecs and the Persians are all excellent civs with which I always feel confident while playing!
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Old October 14, 2002, 05:17   #58
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I almost always play with an expansionist civ.

This is because my style of play is to expand rapidly at the start and the scouts allow me to do that. England is the bset on a archipegilo map cause of the Man-O-Wars allow me to successfully stop any futher enemy expansionism overseas. I like thwe Iriquois because of their mounted horses allow me to run rough shod over an early neighbour who happens to be in the way, and with the Americans, well I don't really play them so often cause I don't like em
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I really find the industrius strength most usful. It really gives me an edge. Commercal is usful with large, spraling empires, Religious is usful in cutting down turns of later anarchy and Scientific is OK, I usally do not need 2 free advances per age. They allways seem to be really usless. The others seem to suck.
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