$mini-market: Trade thread turn 3 - Page 2

Kramerman · August 25, 2002, 23:59

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   Originally posted by Kramerman 
Kramerman's Brothel Ranch 
Turn #: 003 
Holdings: Tile 029, SW BHQ, Grassland (mine, river, road) 
Stockpile: 0 food, 0 shields, 4 commerce 
Cash: $120 
Debt: -$1500 (10% interest, 13 turns remaining on grace period) 

Administered by: Pimp Daddy Kman 

Stockpile: 
0 food 
0 shields 
4 commerce 


Last turn's completed trades: 0 food, 2 shields, 0 commerce
--- 
Production this turn: 2 food, 1 shield, 2 commerce 
--- 

Proposed Deals: 

Sell 2 of 2 food @ $44 each (New D:S=28:57+2= $47 ) 
Sell 1 of 1 shields @ $56 each (New D:S = 20/33+1= $59) 
Sell 3 of 4 commerce @ $40 (New D:S = 20/44+3= $43)

GhengisFarb™ · August 26, 2002, 10:38

And here we go...........

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Originally posted by GhengisFarb

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House Ghengis Land Holdings in the Province of Mingapulco
Turn #: 003 
Holdings: 
House Ghengis:
"Apolyfield" - 004 Apolyton NW (grass), 
"Jungleister" - 015 Termina NE3 (jungle), 
"Ghengis Mountain" - 022 Tassagrad NW (jungle)

Leased from adaMada:
005 Apolyton NW10 (mined grass rd)

Leased from civman2000:
008 Apolyton NE1 (mined grass rd)

Leased from UnOrthOdOx:
013 Termina NE1 (jungle), 
014 Termina NE2 (jungle)

Stockpile: 
GhengisFarb Estate: 0 food, 0 shields, 2 commerce
adaMada Estate:.....0 food, 2 shields, 2 commerce

Cash: $166 
Debt: -$1000 (10% interest, 13 turns remaining on grace period) 
Buildings: (3 of ?) Building? 

Administered by: GhengisFarb, First Ghengis of House Ghengis 

Last turn's completed trades: 
GhengisFarb hired 3 labor at $44 
GhengisFarb sold 5 food at $44 
GhengisFarb paid civman2001 $175 
GhengisFarb received $53 from UnOrthOdOx 
.......Net cash flow = -$34  
--- 
Production this turn: 9 food, 3 shields, 3 commerce
--- 

Proposed Deals: 

Sell 9 food @ $44 (D:S 28/56 (47+9)=$50) 
Sell 1 shield @ $65 (D:S 20/26 (25+1)=$76) 
Sell 7 commerce @ $46 (D:S 20/41 (34+7)=$49)
Pay civman2000 $175 rent
Pay adaMada $110 rent
Pay UnOrthOdOx $125 rent

Proposed Deal Changes(ALL Proposed Deals NOT changed are still offered):
Sell 7 commerce @ $39 (D:S 20/50 =$40) and dropping

Franses · August 26, 2002, 11:40

Official announcement by your Market Assessor

The shopkeep contract is regarded INVALID.

For the reasons see my post in the thread "main thread and directory" regarding this contract.

I suggest that all commerce delivered against this contract are now supposed to be sold on the market at $40,- (which by the way may appear to be to high, so watch out).

UnOrthOdOx · August 26, 2002, 11:43

This is turning out like a game of monopoly with my family...

When does this close? What if they don't get back in time to see this announcement? More stockpile?

Epistax · August 26, 2002, 11:48

uh oh. do you know what this introduction of new commerce is going to do?

/me expects commerce at $20 or less

Franses · August 26, 2002, 12:31

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Originally posted by UnOrthOdOx

This is turning out like a game of monopoly with my family...

When does this close? What if they don't get back in time to see this announcement? More stockpile?

We will have to find a way out of this but in a structured way and not mid-turn. Ghengis and others already proposed good solutions.

Franses · August 26, 2002, 12:33

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Originally posted by Epistax
uh oh. do you know what this introduction of new commerce is going to do?

* Epistax expects commerce at $20 or less

I predicted 1$ for all commodities that have more supply (by the nobles) than demand and can not (no longer) be stockpiled. We just have to find a solution for this.

GhengisFarb™ · August 26, 2002, 14:30

Can Frances please give us a post with the EXACT amount of time left in the trading session. That way I can figure out when it ends based on his post's "post time".

Franses · August 26, 2002, 16:09

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Originally posted by GhengisFarb
Can Frances please give us a post with the EXACT amount of time left in the trading session. That way I can figure out when it ends based on his post's "post time".

At your service:

Nog 12 uur 47 minuten te gaan, geloof ik

Edit: Oops, was chatting with a dutch guy and used the wrong language. Will try again:

12 hours 47 minutes to go (I think).

Franses · August 26, 2002, 16:16

Had better adapt my prices. Almost forgot

Estate of Franses
Turn #: 003
Holdings: Tile 002, NE Apolyton, Bonus Grassland (mine, rd)
Stockpile: 0 food, 0 shields, 0 commerce
Cash: $342
Debt: -$1100 (10% interest, 13 turns remaining on grace period)
Buildings: 2 of ? build

Administered by: Franses

Production this turn: 2 food, 2 shield, 1 commerce
---
Proposed Deals:

Sell 2 of 2 food @ $43 each (New D:S=28:63 = $44 )
Sell 0 of 2 shields (New D:S=20:34 = $59 )
Sell 1 of 1 commerce @ $39 (New D:S= 20:50 = $40 )
Hire 2 labourers for $30 each. (new D:S=4/14=$29)

civman2000 · August 26, 2002, 16:54

Proposed deal: Pay back $175 of the loan (rent money from GF), leaving $650.

GhengisFarb™ · August 26, 2002, 20:13

YOU DO NOT EDIT YOUR PRICES IN YOUR ORIGINAL BIDS

You quote your original bid and post updated proposals underneath it. Several of you have changed your bids in your original posts and your going to stuck with the original price you put there as I update my market bid continuously as posts are made. I DON'T go back and see if you changed your bid amount.

You have been warned.

Epistax · August 26, 2002, 21:27

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Epistan Plantation, Turn 3.  Admin: Epistax
+Update+
Selling:
     2 Food  @ $40/ea
     1 Comm  @ $35/ea
Buying:
     2 Shld  @ $59/ea
     2 Labr  @ $29/ea
D/S:
     Food: 28/63    = $44
     Shld: 20/34    = $59
     Comm: 20/50+1    = $39
     Labr: 4/14     = $29
Predicted Expenses|Income: 176|115 = -$61

Kramerman · August 26, 2002, 21:42

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   Originally posted by Kramerman 
Kramerman's Brothel Ranch 
Turn #: 003 
Holdings: Tile 029, SW BHQ, Grassland (mine, river, road) 
Stockpile: 0 food, 0 shields, 4 commerce 
Cash: $120 
Debt: -$1500 (10% interest, 13 turns remaining on grace period) 

Administered by: Pimp Daddy Kman 

Stockpile: 
0 food 
0 shields 
4 commerce 


Last turn's completed trades: 0 food, 2 shields, 0 commerce
--- 
Production this turn: 2 food, 1 shield, 2 commerce 
--- 

Proposed Deals: 

Sell 2 of 2 food @ $40 each 
Sell 1 of 1 shields @ $55 each 
Sell 3 of 6 commerce @ $35

Spiffor · August 26, 2002, 23:04

Updated orders

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Spiffor's Woodworks, Turn 3.  Admin: Spiffor
Holdings: Tile 003b, W Apolyton, 1/2/1
Stockpile: 0 food    1 shields    0 commerce
Production:  1 food      2 shields      1 commerce

Current Cash: $195      Debt: -$970 (Interest @ turn 15)
Selling:
     1 Food  @ $40/ea
     3 Shields @ $55/ea
     1 Comm  @ $35

Unchanged D/S:
     Food: 28/63    = $44
     Shld: 20/34    = $59
     Comm: 20/51    = $39
     Labr: 4/14     = $29

Pay off $195 of the debt
Predicted Expenses|Income: 185|195 = -$10

Kramerman · August 26, 2002, 23:34

Quote:

Originally posted by Kramerman

Code:

   Originally posted by Kramerman 
Kramerman's Brothel Ranch 
Turn #: 003 
Holdings: Tile 029, SW BHQ, Grassland (mine, river, road) 
Stockpile: 0 food, 0 shields, 4 commerce 
Cash: $120 
Debt: -$1500 (10% interest, 13 turns remaining on grace period) 

Administered by: Pimp Daddy Kman 

Stockpile: 
0 food 
0 shields 
4 commerce 


Last turn's completed trades: 0 food, 2 shields, 0 commerce
--- 
Production this turn: 2 food, 1 shield, 2 commerce 
--- 

Proposed Deals: 

Sell 2 of 2 food @ $40 each 
Sell 1 of 1 shields @ $55 each 
Sell 3 of 6 commerce @ $35

Edit: I just want to go ahaead and use my $120 to atrat paying off my debt.
So pay off $120 of debt.
predicted income: $240

GhengisFarb™ · August 26, 2002, 23:42

And here we go some more...........

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Originally posted by GhengisFarb

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House Ghengis Land Holdings in the Province of Mingapulco
Turn #: 003 
Holdings: 
House Ghengis:
"Apolyfield" - 004 Apolyton NW (grass), 
"Jungleister" - 015 Termina NE3 (jungle), 
"Ghengis Mountain" - 022 Tassagrad NW (jungle)

Leased from adaMada:
005 Apolyton NW10 (mined grass rd)

Leased from civman2000:
008 Apolyton NE1 (mined grass rd)

Leased from UnOrthOdOx:
013 Termina NE1 (jungle), 
014 Termina NE2 (jungle)

Stockpile: 
GhengisFarb Estate: 0 food, 0 shields, 2 commerce
adaMada Estate:.....0 food, 2 shields, 2 commerce

Cash: $166 
Debt: -$1000 (10% interest, 13 turns remaining on grace period) 
Buildings: (3 of ?) Building? 

Administered by: GhengisFarb, First Ghengis of House Ghengis 

Last turn's completed trades: 
GhengisFarb hired 3 labor at $44 
GhengisFarb sold 5 food at $44 
GhengisFarb paid civman2001 $175 
GhengisFarb received $53 from UnOrthOdOx 
.......Net cash flow = -$34  
--- 
Production this turn: 9 food, 3 shields, 3 commerce
--- 

Proposed Deals: 

Sell 9 food @ $44 (D:S 28/56 (47+9)=$50) 
Sell 1 shield @ $65 (D:S 20/26 (25+1)=$76) 
Sell 7 commerce @ $46 (D:S 20/41 (34+7)=$49)
Pay civman2000 $175 rent
Pay adaMada $110 rent
Pay UnOrthOdOx $125 rent

Proposed Deal Changes(ALL Proposed Deals NOT changed are still offered):
Sell 7 commerce @ $34 (D:S 20/50 =$40) and dropping

Duddha · August 26, 2002, 23:51

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Dude Ranch
Turn #: 003
Holdings: 010 Termina NE (mined grass rd)
Stockpile: 0 food, 0 shields, 0 commerce
Cash: $)0
Debt: -$1000 (10% interest, 16 turns remaining on grace period)
Buildings: None

Administered by: Duddha

Production this turn: 2 food, 1 shield, 1 commerce
---
Proposed Deals:

Sell 2 of 2 food @ $40 each
Sell 1 of 1 commerce @ $40 each

Did I do this right?

Epistax · August 26, 2002, 23:54

Duddha if it is your first post for the turn, you need to update the numbers

Food: 28/65 = $44
Shld: 20/34 = $59
Comm: 20/52 = $38
Labr: 4/14 = $29

I am not sure if that comm should be 52 or 51. depends on if GF screwed up or not.

EDIT: If these numbers are correct, you must lower your commerce selling rate or else it wont sell.

Epistax · August 26, 2002, 23:58

Code:

Epistan Plantation, Turn 3.  Admin: Epistax
+Update+
Selling:
     2 Food  @ $39/ea
     1 Comm  @ $34/ea
Buying:
     2 Shld  @ $59/ea
     2 Labr  @ $29/ea

notyoueither · August 27, 2002, 00:46

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Originally posted by notyoueither
OK. Assume no sale last turn. Food rotted. My fault, but we had a good feast.

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The Mustang Ranch [001], Turn 3.  notyoueither
Stockpile: 0 food, 0 shield, 4 commerce 
Cash $0 
Dept: -$1000
___ 

Production this turn: 2 food, 2 Commerce
---- 
Deals:
Sell 2 of 2Food  @ $44 each
Have 0 Shld  @ 
Sell 3 of 6 Comm  @ $65 each
----
New D/S:
Food: 28/56+2    = $48
Comm: 20/23+3    = $77

Did I get the numbers right? Let me know and I'll edit.

Can I come back later and adjust selling price offered?

Update:
Sell 6 of 6 Comm @ $33 each

Sell 2 of 2 Food @ $39 each

New Comm DS: 20/52+3 $36

Kramerman · August 27, 2002, 01:10

UPDATE

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Proposed Deals: 

Sell 2 of 2 food @ $35 each 
Sell 1 of 1 shields @ $50 each 
Sell 3 of 6 commerce @ $30

Spiffor · August 27, 2002, 02:04

When will the turn end precisely ?

notyoueither · August 27, 2002, 02:12

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Turn 3 closes at august 27, 10.00 hour [GMT time]

Very soon.

Franses · August 27, 2002, 02:54

UPDATE
Estate of Franses
Turn #: 003
Holdings: Tile 002, NE Apolyton, Bonus Grassland (mine, rd)
Stockpile: 0 food, 0 shields, 0 commerce
Cash: $342
Debt: -$1100 (10% interest, 13 turns remaining on grace period)
Buildings: 2 of ? build

Administered by: Franses

Production this turn: 2 food, 2 shield, 1 commerce
---
Proposed Deals:

Sell 2 of 2 food @ $42 each (current D:S=28:65 = $43 )
Sell 0 of 2 shields @65 (Current D:S=20:34 = $59 )
Sell 1 of 1 commerce @ $36 (Current D:S= 20:54 = $37 )
Hire 2 labourers for $30 each. (Current D:S=4/14=$29)

Franses · August 27, 2002, 02:54

Turn 3 closes in 2 hours and a couple of minutes.

GhengisFarb™ · August 27, 2002, 04:44

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Originally posted by GhengisFarb

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Estate of Kloreep
Turn #: 003 
Holdings: 
006 Apolyton NW11 (mined grass rd)

Stockpile:  0 food, 2 shields, 1 commerce 
Cash: $298 
Debt: -$1400 (10% interest, 13 turns remaining on grace period) 
Buildings: (3 of ?) Building? 

Administered by: GhengisFarb 

Last turn's completed trades: 
NONE
..........Total Income for Turn =$0 

--- 
Production this turn: 2 food, 2 shields, 1 commerce
--- 

Proposed Deals: 

Sell 2 food @ $44 (D:S 28/56 (47+9)=$50) 
Sell 4 shields @ $61 (D:S 20/30 (25+1)=$66) 
Sell 2 Commerce towards Shopkeep contract at $40 (5/14)

Sell 2 commerce at $39 (D:S 20/31 = $37)
Sell 2 food at $43 (D:S 28/30 = $43)

GhengisFarb™ · August 27, 2002, 04:45

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Originally posted by GhengisFarb

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House Ghengis Land Holdings in the Province of Mingapulco
Turn #: 003 
Holdings: 
House Ghengis:
"Apolyfield" - 004 Apolyton NW (grass), 
"Jungleister" - 015 Termina NE3 (jungle), 
"Ghengis Mountain" - 022 Tassagrad NW (jungle)

Leased from adaMada:
005 Apolyton NW10 (mined grass rd)

Leased from civman2000:
008 Apolyton NE1 (mined grass rd)

Leased from UnOrthOdOx:
013 Termina NE1 (jungle), 
014 Termina NE2 (jungle)

Stockpile: 
GhengisFarb Estate: 0 food, 0 shields, 2 commerce
adaMada Estate:.....0 food, 2 shields, 2 commerce

Cash: $166 
Debt: -$1000 (10% interest, 13 turns remaining on grace period) 
Buildings: (3 of ?) Building? 

Administered by: GhengisFarb, First Ghengis of House Ghengis 

Last turn's completed trades: 
GhengisFarb hired 3 labor at $44 
GhengisFarb sold 5 food at $44 
GhengisFarb paid civman2001 $175 
GhengisFarb received $53 from UnOrthOdOx 
.......Net cash flow = -$34  
--- 
Production this turn: 9 food, 3 shields, 3 commerce
--- 

Proposed Deals: 

Sell 9 food @ $44 (D:S 28/56 (47+9)=$50) 
Sell 1 shield @ $65 (D:S 20/26 (25+1)=$76) 
Sell 7 commerce @ $46 (D:S 20/41 (34+7)=$49)
Pay civman2000 $175 rent
Pay adaMada $110 rent
Pay UnOrthOdOx $125 rent

Sell 0 commerce (D:S 20/24 $42)
Sell 9 food at $43 (D:S 28/30 = $43)

Franses · August 27, 2002, 04:51

What you do is a valid move but are you sure you want to expose this bug so clearly?

Franses · August 27, 2002, 04:54

Turn 3 is closed

Turn 4 is postponed for some time (I had prepared the market assessment for it. Even with a new lay-out and all

but it was not to be)

It was decided to postpone turn 4 until we agree on the solution to a number of problems that surfaced during the first turns. For more information see the thread Main thread and directory

I will leave in 2 hours or so and be off for about 12 hours, maybe even till tomorrow. See you then.