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You heal us? 
Your preachers could only screw up. 
And we already returned to Mother Church, to Holy Russian Orthodox Church, a Church with more then a thousand years history.
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September 2, 2002, 00:32
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short-timers...
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I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891
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September 2, 2002, 00:34
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Originally posted by Faeelin
To say the soviet union and nazi germany weren't "allies" in 1940 is a bit of a farce, considering how soviet propaganda cheered the fascists as smashing the evil imperialists.
Oh, and the blatant annexation of eastern poland and negotiations between molotov and ribbentrop about carving up eastern europe count as something close to an alliance, in my opinion.
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Is it somehow different from GB and France policy of cajoling Hitler (such as Czechoslovakia f.e.) and pushing him in war vs. SU?
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Especially how Stalin was unable to believe that Hitler actually attacked him. (he went into a near shock after the blitz).
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Because Stalin was a foul, who beleived that he tricked Hitler with this non-agression pact, and that he won some time for preparation to war with Hitler.
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September 2, 2002, 00:43
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September 2, 2002, 01:03
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Have you learned to speak Chinese, yet? I think your overlords will want you to speak your language...
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I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891
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September 2, 2002, 01:04
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Hey dude...watch out for the Chechens...I think they may take over your country.
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I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891
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September 2, 2002, 01:21
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Chinese, Chechens....
Yeah, right. You forget to mention about Martian threat. 
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September 2, 2002, 02:24
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"I'm moving to the Left" - Lancer
"I imagine the neighbors on your right are estatic." - Slowwhand
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September 2, 2002, 05:08
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1) I'll say it again, if you don't mind- F*CK OFF.
2) We don't like Cold wars, we preffer hot, real wars. Cold war is for cowards.
3) We like to put our asses in troubles, time after time. It's our national sport. What didn't kill us, make us stronger.
4) Yes, we are funny and we love fun. Our sense of humor help us to solve big troubles we create for ourselves. It's better to laugh about problem, then whine about it.
5) It is you and your "state" without culture and less then 300 of history who will be on the ashtray of history soon. I wonder if someone will remember about Brithney after 200 years.
6)Have a nice day 
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September 2, 2002, 05:09
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Russian was a superpower for aprox 40 years and it won't be again.
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September 2, 2002, 05:12
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Which Russian exactly?
What about Russian Empire existed since 1700?
Are you Nostradamus?
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September 2, 2002, 05:12
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Never say never.
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I'm building a wagon! On some other part of the internets, obviously (but not that other site).
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September 2, 2002, 05:13
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Thank you very much.
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September 2, 2002, 05:18
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Originally posted by Serb
Which Russian exactly?
What about Russian Empire existed since 1700?
Are you Nostradamus?
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An empire does not a superpower make.
Ok there might be an outside chance you become a superpower again. but not soon, you've got a crap economy and a falling population together with a very big nasty neigbour just starting to flex its muscles
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September 2, 2002, 05:26
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An empire does not a superpower make.
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Then who was a super power longer then we were? USA? For how long? Ten years? Big difference. The future will show how long they will be able to hold this status.
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Ok there might be an outside chance you become a superpower again. but not soon, you've got a crap economy and a falling population together with a very big nasty neigbour just starting to flex its muscles
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Flex its muscles with our own help. You have no idea about scale of Russian-Chinese cooperation. Their army equiped with Russian weaponry. Perhaps its for you they are evil commies, for us they are freinds and partners. Today relationships between China and Russia a hundred times better then when we were a super power.
The bs about Chinese invasion in Siberia is no more then fairytales.
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September 2, 2002, 05:30
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The US has been a super power since the turn of the 19th/20 the century.
It will be great comfort to you when you are confromted by your own weapons
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September 2, 2002, 05:35
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The US has been a super power since the turn of the 19th/20 the century.
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Fine. Then Russia was a super power since 1721 when we crushed Sweden.
What is your definition of Super power?
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September 2, 2002, 05:38
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Originally posted by Serb
Fine. Then Russia was a super power since 1721 when we crushed Sweden.
What is your definition of Super power?
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A nation who economicaly, politicaly and militarily dominate large areas of the world, beyond their own immediate borders.
crushing Sweden doesn't count.
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September 2, 2002, 05:44
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A nation who economicaly, politicaly and militarily dominate large areas of the world, beyond their own immediate borders.
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This is exactly the definition of Russian Empire since the Peter the Great reign. It was the LARGEST continious land based country in the world. It's the only competitor is colonial Britain.
Sweden under Karl XII was a European butt-kicking power. Very strong power. After its defeat Russians gained the Baltic states and access to Baltic sea.
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September 2, 2002, 05:47
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No its not, you couldn't project power along way form your borders. On your definition Canada is a superpower
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September 2, 2002, 05:55
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Canada is your former colony.
Why the f*ck Russians should projected their power to the edge of the world if they could took nearby countries? We projected our power pretty well. We took our neighbors one by one into our Empire. Some joined by force, some joined by "their own will". If expansionism is not a power projection, then wtf is it?
And btw, how exactly USA projected its power?
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September 2, 2002, 06:26
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Im not saying russia wasn't a power just that it wasn't a superpower.
America had the largest economy in the world by 1900 and was I believe kicking the Spanish out of the Philipines.
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September 2, 2002, 07:18
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Im not saying russia wasn't a power just that it wasn't a superpower.
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As well as USA.
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America had the largest economy in the world by 1900 and was I believe kicking the Spanish out of the Philipines.
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So what? Russia has the second largest GNP after USA and had better industry growth (I realise that it sounds weird, but it's true). We have 200 millions of population and those population occupied 1/6 of all world's surface land. Our currency was valuable as British curency and we had no inflation at all, even during Russo-Japanese war. Our agricaltural export was more then American and Argentinian exports combined. Pacific is an American backyard, we kicked much more asses and much stronger asses then Spanish in our backyard. F.e. Russian campaign in Italy vs. French or wars vs. Turkey in Turkey.
Why you consider that USA was a super power, while Russian Empire wasn't?
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September 2, 2002, 07:27
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Complete toss.
The Russian economy was not a parch on the US, British,German,French economies.
Industrialization didn't start until the 1890's. You didn't even emancipate all the serfs until the 20 century.
Russia compared to europe and the US was backward, it was able to ponce about pretending it was a major power on the basis it had large amounts of troops to expend.
Once it needed economic strength aswell as alot of manpower it got beat.
You didn't have enough guns for your troops in WW1.
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September 2, 2002, 08:21
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September 2, 2002, 08:35
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I'm not sure raw output of pig iron shows anything. By the late 1890's Britain and Germany were producing high quality steel.
Big countries have big rail networks.
China and India produce in absolute terms produce lots of manufactured products, it does not make them advanced industrialised countries.
Russain was playing catch up and still had a long way to go.
EDIT- fair enough on the emancipation point i was talking bollocks on that one
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September 2, 2002, 08:39
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Get Him, Stinger!
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September 2, 2002, 08:43
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I'm glad to see you too Heresson
btw,
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September 2, 2002, 08:47
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Big posters telling people what to do, may work on russians not on us independant Brits
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I always wondered why Serb likes this poster so much... 
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