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Old August 29, 2002, 10:52   #1
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Champions League predictions: 1st round and pre-season predictions
The qualifying rounds are over, and the draw for the first round has just finished, so it's time for a new thread. You can find the rules for the CL predictions here.

Before the first group matches you have to predict the Champions League winner, the top scorer and the 8 group winners.Here are the 8 groups and the matches of the first week:

Group A:
Arsenal FC
BV Borussia Dortmund
PSV Eindhoven
AJ Auxerre

Group B:
Valencia CF
Liverpool FC
FC Spartak Moskva
FC Basel

Group C:
Real Madrid CF
AS Roma
AEK Athens FC
KRC Genk

Group D:
Internazionale FC
Olympique Lyonnais
AFC Ajax
Rosenborg BK

Group E:
Juventus FC
Feyenoord
FC Dynamo Kyiv
Newcastle United FC

Group F:
Manchester United FC
Bayer 04 Leverkusen
Olympiakos Piraeus FC
Maccabi Haifa

Group G:
FC Bayern München
RC Deportivo La Coruña
Milan AC
RC Lens

Group H:
FC Barcelona
Galatasaray SK
FC Lokomotiv Moskva
Club Brugge KV

Tuesday, 17-09-2002:
AJ Auxerre - PSV Eindhoven
Arsenal FC - BV Borussia Dortmund
Valencia CF - Liverpool FC
FC Basel - FC Spartak Moskva
KRC Genk - AEK Athens FC
AS Roma - Real Madrid CF
Rosenborg BK - Internazionale FC
AFC Ajax - Olympique Lyonnais

Wednesday, 18-09-2002:
Feyenoord - Juventus FC
FC Dynamo Kyiv - Newcastle United FC
Manchester United - Maccabi Haifa
Olympiakos Piraeus - Bayer 04 Leverkusen
FC Bayern München - Deportivo La Coruña
Milan AC - RC Lens
FC Lokomotiv Moskva - Galatasaray SK
FC Barcelona - Club Brugge KV


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My predictions:

CL winner: Ajax
Top scorer: Van Nistelrooy
Group winners:
A: Arsenal
B: Valencia
C: Real Madrid
D: Ajax
E: Juventus
F: ManU
G: Deportivo
H: Barcelona
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The CL winner will be Rosenborg BK of course. The only team to have participated 8? times in a row.

Top scorer: Harald Martin Brattbakk.

Group winners:

Group A:
BV Borussia Dortmund


Group B:
Liverpool FC

Group C:
Real Madrid CF

Group D:
Rosenborg BK

Group E:
Juventus FC

Group F:
Manchester United FC

Group G:
Milan AC

Group H:
FC Barcelona
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Old August 29, 2002, 13:18   #4
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My match predictions:

Tuesday, 17-09-2002:
AJ Auxerre - PSV Eindhoven 1-1
Arsenal FC - BV Borussia Dortmund 3-2
Valencia CF - Liverpool FC 1-0
FC Basel - FC Spartak Moskva 1-2
KRC Genk - AEK Athens FC 1-1
AS Roma - Real Madrid CF 0-2
Rosenborg BK - Internazionale FC 2-2
AFC Ajax - Olympique Lyonnais 2-0

Wednesday, 18-09-2002:
Feyenoord - Juventus FC 1-1
FC Dynamo Kyiv - Newcastle United FC 2-1
Manchester United - Maccabi Haifa 4-0
Olympiakos Piraeus - Bayer 04 Leverkusen 0-2
FC Bayern München - Deportivo La Coruña 1-1
Milan AC - RC Lens 2-1
FC Lokomotiv Moskva - Galatasaray SK 1-1
FC Barcelona - Club Brugge KV 2-0
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Tuesday, 17-09-2002:
AJ Auxerre - PSV Eindhoven 1-0
Arsenal FC - BV Borussia Dortmund 2-2
Valencia CF - Liverpool FC 0-2
FC Basel - FC Spartak Moskva 1-1
KRC Genk - AEK Athens FC 1-2
AS Roma - Real Madrid CF 0-1
Rosenborg BK - Internazionale FC 2-0
AFC Ajax - Olympique Lyonnais 0-2

Wednesday, 18-09-2002:
Feyenoord - Juventus FC 0-3
FC Dynamo Kyiv - Newcastle United FC 0-2
Manchester United - Maccabi Haifa 2-2
Olympiakos Piraeus - Bayer 04 Leverkusen 1-3
FC Bayern München - Deportivo La Coruña 2-0
Milan AC - RC Lens 3-0
FC Lokomotiv Moskva - Galatasaray SK 0-2
FC Barcelona - Club Brugge KV 3-0
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Re: Champions League predictions: 1st round and pre-season predictions
Winner : Arsenal

Group A:
Arsenal FC

Group B:
Valencia CF

Group C:
AS Roma

Group D:
AFC Ajax

Group E:
Juventus FC

Group F:
Bayer 04 Leverkusen

Group G:
Milan AC

Group H:
Galatasaray SK

1-0 for all other predictions.
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Re: Champions League predictions: 1st round and pre-season predictions
Group A:
Arsenal FC

Group B:
Valencia CF

Group C:
Real Madrid CF

Group D:
Internazionale FC

Group E:
Juventus FC

Group F:
Bayer 04 Leverkusen

Group G:
RC Deportivo La Coruña

Group H:
FC Barcelona

Tuesday, 17-09-2002:
AJ Auxerre - PSV Eindhoven 1-1
Arsenal FC - BV Borussia Dortmund 2-0
Valencia CF - Liverpool FC 1-1
FC Basel - FC Spartak Moskva 0-1
KRC Genk - AEK Athens FC 0-0
AS Roma - Real Madrid CF 1-3
Rosenborg BK - Internazionale FC 0-2
AFC Ajax - Olympique Lyonnais 2-1

Wednesday, 18-09-2002:
Feyenoord - Juventus FC 0-1
FC Dynamo Kyiv - Newcastle United FC 1-3
Manchester United - Maccabi Haifa 4-0
Olympiakos Piraeus - Bayer 04 Leverkusen 0-2
FC Bayern München - Deportivo La Coruña 1-0
Milan AC - RC Lens 1-1
FC Lokomotiv Moskva - Galatasaray SK 0-0
FC Barcelona - Club Brugge KV 2-0
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Eli, you forgot to predict the top scorer.

Wernazuma, you forgot to predict the CL winner and top scorer.
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Winner: Manchester United
Scorer: Ruud Van Nistelrooy

A: PSV Eindhoven
B: Valencia CF
C: Real Madrid CF
D: Internazionale
E: Feyenoord
F: Manchester United
G: Bayern München
H: Galatasaray SK

Matches to follow.

Paul can you post the standings?
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Group Winners:
Arsenal
Valencia
Madrid
Ajax
Newcastle
Manchester U.
B. Munich
Galatasaray

CL Winner : Real Madrid
Top Scorer : Raul Gonzales.

Games:
Tuesday, 17-09-2002:
AJ Auxerre - PSV Eindhoven 3-1
Arsenal FC - BV Borussia Dortmund 2-0
Valencia CF - Liverpool FC 1-0
FC Basel - FC Spartak Moskva 1-2
KRC Genk - AEK Athens FC 1-1
AS Roma - Real Madrid CF 0-2
Rosenborg BK - Internazionale FC 1-2
AFC Ajax - Olympique Lyonnais 2-2

Wednesday, 18-09-2002:
Feyenoord - Juventus FC 1-2
FC Dynamo Kyiv - Newcastle United FC 1-2
Manchester United - Maccabi Haifa 4-1 ( )
Olympiakos Piraeus - Bayer 04 Leverkusen 1-1
FC Bayern München - Deportivo La Coruña 2-2
Milan AC - RC Lens 2-0
FC Lokomotiv Moskva - Galatasaray SK 1-2
FC Barcelona - Club Brugge KV 2-2
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Group A:
Arsenal FC

Group B:
Liverpool FC

Group C:
Real Madrid CF

Group D:
AFC Ajax

Group E:
Juventus FC

Group F:
Bayer 04 Leverkusen

Group G:
FC Bayern München

Group H:
FC Barcelona

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Tuesday, 17-09-2002:
AJ Auxerre - PSV Eindhoven 1-1
Arsenal FC - BV Borussia Dortmund 2-0
Valencia CF - Liverpool FC 0-1
FC Basel - FC Spartak Moskva 0-0
KRC Genk - AEK Athens FC 1-1
AS Roma - Real Madrid CF 1-2
Rosenborg BK - Internazionale FC 0-2
AFC Ajax - Olympique Lyonnais 2-0

Wednesday, 18-09-2002:
Feyenoord - Juventus FC 1-2
FC Dynamo Kyiv - Newcastle United FC 0-1
Manchester United - Maccabi Haifa 2-0
Olympiakos Piraeus - Bayer 04 Leverkusen 0-2
FC Bayern München - Deportivo La Coruña 2-2
Milan AC - RC Lens 1-1
FC Lokomotiv Moskva - Galatasaray SK 0-1
FC Barcelona - Club Brugge KV 3-0
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Zopperoni, you forgot to predict the CL winner and top scorer.

Quote:
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Paul can you post the standings?
Edited into my first post.
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O yea, thanks for reminding me, Paul:

Topscorer: Raul
Winner: Juventus
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CL Winner: Manchester United FC
Top scorer: Ruud Van Nistelrooy

Group A: Arsenal FC
Group B: Valencia CF
Group C: Real Madrid CF
Group D: Internazionale FC
Group E: Juventus FC
Group F: Manchester United FC
Group G: RC Deportivo La Coruña
Group H: FC Barcelona

Tuesday, 17-09-2002:
AJ Auxerre - PSV Eindhoven 1-1
Arsenal FC - BV Borussia Dortmund 1-0
Valencia CF - Liverpool FC 1-0
FC Basel - FC Spartak Moskva 0-1
KRC Genk - AEK Athens FC 0-0
AS Roma - Real Madrid CF 0-1
Rosenborg BK - Internazionale FC 1-2
AFC Ajax - Olympique Lyonnais 1-0

Wednesday, 18-09-2002:
Feyenoord - Juventus FC 1-1
FC Dynamo Kyiv - Newcastle United FC 1-1
Manchester United - Maccabi Haifa 3-0
Olympiakos Piraeus - Bayer 04 Leverkusen 0-1
FC Bayern München - Deportivo La Coruña 1-1
Milan AC - RC Lens 2-0
FC Lokomotiv Moskva - Galatasaray SK 0-1
FC Barcelona - Club Brugge KV 2-0
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Group Winners:
Arsenal
Valencia
Madrid
Inter
Juventus
Manchester U.
B. Munich
Barcelona

CL Winner : Man U
Top Scorer : Ruud Van Nistelrooy

Tuesday, 17-09-2002:
AJ Auxerre - PSV Eindhoven 1-0
Arsenal FC - BV Borussia Dortmund 1-0
Valencia CF - Liverpool FC 1-0
FC Basel - FC Spartak Moskva 0-1
KRC Genk - AEK Athens FC 2-2
AS Roma - Real Madrid CF 1-2
Rosenborg BK - Internazionale FC 0-2
AFC Ajax - Olympique Lyonnais 2-0

Wednesday, 18-09-2002:
Feyenoord - Juventus FC 1-2
FC Dynamo Kyiv - Newcastle United FC 0-1
Manchester United - Maccabi Haifa 4-0
Olympiakos Piraeus - Bayer 04 Leverkusen 0-1
FC Bayern München - Deportivo La Coruña 3-2
Milan AC - RC Lens 2-0
FC Lokomotiv Moskva - Galatasaray SK 0-1
FC Barcelona - Club Brugge KV 2-0
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Re: Champions League predictions: 1st round and pre-season predictions
Group A:
Arsenal FC -winner
BV Borussia Dortmund
PSV Eindhoven
AJ Auxerre

Group B:
Valencia CF - winner
Liverpool FC
FC Spartak Moskva
FC Basel

Group C:
Real Madrid CF - winner
AS Roma
AEK Athens FC
KRC Genk

Group D:
Internazionale FC -winner
Olympique Lyonnais
AFC Ajax
Rosenborg BK

Group E:
Juventus FC
Feyenoord
FC Dynamo Kyiv
Newcastle United FC - winner

Group F:
Manchester United FC - winner
Bayer 04 Leverkusen
Olympiakos Piraeus FC
Maccabi Haifa

Group G:
FC Bayern München
RC Deportivo La Coruña - winner
Milan AC
RC Lens

Group H:
FC Barcelona - winner
Galatasaray SK
FC Lokomotiv Moskva
Club Brugge KV

Tuesday, 17-09-2002:
AJ Auxerre - PSV Eindhoven 1-1
Arsenal FC - BV Borussia Dortmund 1-0
Valencia CF - Liverpool FC 3-1
FC Basel - FC Spartak Moskva 0-0
KRC Genk - AEK Athens FC 0-0
AS Roma - Real Madrid CF 1-1
Rosenborg BK - Internazionale FC 0-0
AFC Ajax - Olympique Lyonnais 2-0

Wednesday, 18-09-2002:
Feyenoord - Juventus FC 1-1
FC Dynamo Kyiv - Newcastle United FC 0-0
Manchester United - Maccabi Haifa 4-0
Olympiakos Piraeus - Bayer 04 Leverkusen 1-0
FC Bayern München - Deportivo La Coruña 1-1
Milan AC - RC Lens 1-0
FC Lokomotiv Moskva - Galatasaray SK 0-0
FC Barcelona - Club Brugge KV 3-0


CL winner
Arsenal

Top scorer Van Niestelrooy.. or whatever it is spelled
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Group A:
Arsenal FC
BV Borussia Dortmund - winner
PSV Eindhoven
AJ Auxerre

Group B:
Valencia CF - winner
Liverpool FC
FC Spartak Moskva
FC Basel

Group C:
Real Madrid CF -winner
AS Roma
AEK Athens FC
KRC Genk

Group D:
Internazionale FC - winner
Olympique Lyonnais
AFC Ajax
Rosenborg BK

Group E:
Juventus FC
Feyenoord - winner
FC Dynamo Kyiv
Newcastle United FC

Group F:
Manchester United FC - winner
Bayer 04 Leverkusen
Olympiakos Piraeus FC
Maccabi Haifa

Group G:
FC Bayern München - winner
RC Deportivo La Coruña
Milan AC
RC Lens

Group H:
FC Barcelona - winner
Galatasaray SK
FC Lokomotiv Moskva
Club Brugge KV

Tuesday, 17-09-2002:
AJ Auxerre - PSV Eindhoven 1-1
Arsenal FC - BV Borussia Dortmund 1-2
Valencia CF - Liverpool FC 2-0
FC Basel - FC Spartak Moskva 1-1
KRC Genk - AEK Athens FC 1-0
AS Roma - Real Madrid CF 0-2
Rosenborg BK - Internazionale FC 2-3
AFC Ajax - Olympique Lyonnais 1-0

Wednesday, 18-09-2002:
Feyenoord - Juventus FC 2-1
FC Dynamo Kyiv - Newcastle United FC 1-0
Manchester United - Maccabi Haifa 4-0
Olympiakos Piraeus - Bayer 04 Leverkusen 1-1
FC Bayern München - Deportivo La Coruña 2-1
Milan AC - RC Lens 1-0
FC Lokomotiv Moskva - Galatasaray SK 1-1
FC Barcelona - Club Brugge KV 3-1

Champions: Borussia Dortmund
Top scorer: Raul of Real Madrid
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Group C:
Real Madrid CF

Group D:
Internazional FC

Group E:
Juventus FC

Group F:
Manchester United FC

Group G:
Milan AC

Group H:
FC Barcelona

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Tuesday, 17-09-2002:
AJ Auxerre - PSV Eindhoven 0-1
Arsenal FC - BV Borussia Dortmund 2-0
Valencia CF - Liverpool FC 1-1
FC Basel - FC Spartak Moskva 1-2
KRC Genk - AEK Athens FC 0-1
AS Roma - Real Madrid CF 0-0
Rosenborg BK - Internazionale FC 1-2
AFC Ajax - Olympique Lyonnais 2-0

Wednesday, 18-09-2002:
Feyenoord - Juventus FC 0-1
FC Dynamo Kyiv - Newcastle United FC 0-2
Manchester United - Maccabi Haifa 3-0
Olympiakos Piraeus - Bayer 04 Leverkusen 1-2
FC Bayern München - Deportivo La Coruña 1-0
Milan AC - RC Lens 2-0
FC Lokomotiv Moskva - Galatasaray SK 1-2
FC Barcelona - Club Brugge KV 3-1

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Hmmm. 1-0 don't help too much to pick winners. Interesting names are only slightly more effective, or not. So I'll have to be an opinion parasite.

The overall winner? The Gunners! Arsenal.
Top scorer? Van Nistelrooy. Too many people who know better say so.

Group A: Arsenal FC
Group B: Valencia CF
Group C: Real Madrid CF
Group D: AFC Ajax (or be disowned)
Group E: Juventus FC
Group F: Manchester United FC
Group G: RC Deportivo La Coruña
Group H: FC Barcelona

Tuesday, 17-09-2002:
AJ Auxerre - PSV Eindhoven 1-0
Arsenal FC - BV Borussia Dortmund 1-0
Valencia CF - Liverpool FC 1-0
FC Basel - FC Spartak Moskva 1-0
KRC Genk - AEK Athens FC 1-0
AS Roma - Real Madrid CF 0-1
Rosenborg BK - Internazionale FC 0-1
AFC Ajax - Olympique Lyonnais 1-0

Wednesday, 18-09-2002:
Feyenoord - Juventus FC 0-1
FC Dynamo Kyiv - Newcastle United FC 1-0
Manchester United - Maccabi Haifa 1-0
Olympiakos Piraeus - Bayer 04 Leverkusen 0-1
FC Bayern München - Deportivo La Coruña 1-0
Milan AC - RC Lens 1-0
FC Lokomotiv Moskva - Galatasaray SK 1-0
FC Barcelona - Club Brugge KV 1-0
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Re: Champions League predictions: 1st round and pre-season predictions
My predictions

Overall winners: Real Madrid
Top scorer: Ronaldo

Group A: Arsenal FC

Group B: Valencia CF

Group C: Real Madrid CF

Group D: Internazionale FC

Group E: Feyenoord

Group F: Bayer 04 Leverkusen

Group G: RC Deportivo La Coruña

Group H: Galatasaray SK


Tuesday, 17-09-2002:
AJ Auxerre - PSV Eindhoven 2-1
Arsenal FC - BV Borussia Dortmund 2-0
Valencia CF - Liverpool FC 1-0
FC Basel - FC Spartak Moskva 2-0
KRC Genk - AEK Athens FC 3-1
AS Roma - Real Madrid CF 1-2
Rosenborg BK - Internazionale FC 1-2
AFC Ajax - Olympique Lyonnais 1-1

Wednesday, 18-09-2002:
Feyenoord - Juventus FC 2-1
FC Dynamo Kyiv - Newcastle United FC 2-2
Manchester United - Maccabi Haifa 2-1
Olympiakos Piraeus - Bayer 04 Leverkusen 1-2
FC Bayern München - Deportivo La Coruña 1-1
Milan AC - RC Lens 3-2
FC Lokomotiv Moskva - Galatasaray SK 1-2
FC Barcelona - Club Brugge KV 2-0


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So , what do you people say about the Ronaldo deal?
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CL winner: Ajax


My prediction:

CL winner: Real

Topscorer: Either van Nistelrooij or Ronaldo
Playing with Figo, Raoiul and Zidane will mean teams cant afford to put 2 defenders on Ronaldo so he has the best chances IMO
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I realize that the chances of Ajax winning are small, but as an Ajax fan I have to be optimistic. Besides, if Feyenoord can win the UEFA Cup, there's no reason why Ajax can't win the Champions League.
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I realize that the chances of Ajax winning are small, but as an Ajax fan I have to be optimistic.
I understand that, but I think there are only a handfull teams that have a chance against Real, Ajax not being one of them.

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Besides, if Feyenoord can win the UEFA Cup, there's no reason why Ajax can't win the Champions League.
Real Madrid doesnt play UEFA Cup

And besides, for their semi against Inter theyhad the luck that Inter focussed on the scudeto so played their home game with a B-Team. But the second match was a very good one by feyenoord

Also Kholers red card in the 5th minute of the final, and the fact that it was played in de kuip helped a lot.

If a Dutch team wins the UEFA Cup it counts as a big achievement nowadays, winning the CL would be nothing less then a miracle.
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So , what do you people say about the Ronaldo deal?
I'm happy about it.
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I want to change my predictions slightly.

CL Winner: Real Madrid
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CL Winner: Real Madrid
Topscorer: Ronalda

Group A: BV Borussia Dortmund
Group B: Valencia CF
Group C: Real Madrid CF
Group D: Internazionale FC
Group E: Juventus FC
Group F: Manchester United FC
Group G: FC Bayern München
Group H: FC Barcelona

AJ Auxerre - PSV Eindhoven 2-1
Arsenal FC - BV Borussia Dortmund 1-1
Valencia CF - Liverpool FC 0-1
FC Basel - FC Spartak Moskva 1-0
KRC Genk - AEK Athens FC 3-1
AS Roma - Real Madrid CF 0-2
Rosenborg BK - Internazionale FC 2-2
AFC Ajax - Olympique Lyonnais 2-0

Feyenoord - Juventus FC 3-2
FC Dynamo Kyiv - Newcastle United FC 2-1
Manchester United - Maccabi Haifa 3-0
Olympiakos Piraeus - Bayer 04 Leverkusen 0-2
FC Bayern München - Deportivo La Coruña 2-0
Milan AC - RC Lens 3-1
FC Lokomotiv Moskva - Galatasaray SK 1-2
FC Barcelona - Club Brugge KV 2-0
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If madrid were run on principles vaguley similar to those operated by normal businesses, they could not afford Ronaldo without selling one of their stars
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TheStinger, Madrid sold the ground of their trainings complex for €500 million

After paying €300 million to get rid of their debts,
and € 100 for a new training complex, they got €100 left over to play around with.

after the Ronaldo deal there's still €52 million left over for other fun projects.
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