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Old September 2, 2002, 05:41   #31
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Fair enough.

BTW who would buy the training complex for that much, it wasn't the local governmnet was it?
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Topscorer: Ronalda
Who's Ronalda? Is that Ronaldo's sister?
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Old September 2, 2002, 07:40   #33
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BTW who would buy the training complex for that much, it wasn't the local governmnet was it?
I think it was in the center of the city, and some project company bought it to put large buildings on it. I can see the point of that, and understand why it would have that value.

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Who's Ronalda? Is that Ronaldo's sister?
it's the nickname I give to the CL-top scorer!
I'll tell you who it is after the season final!

but if that's not ok with you, I'll stick to someone else, let's say.......... Ronaldo.....

(Do you think that editing my post won't be needed, or will you deny me any points at the end of the season since Ronalda was wrong?)
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I don't care about those typos. I will just assume that Ronalda should be Ronaldo unless there was actually a player called Ronalda. In that case I would have asked if you really wanted to predict this Ronalda as the top scorer.
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thought already your answer would be something like that
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Another change. I changed my winner before the transfer but now I want Ronaldo as the top scorer as well.
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I change the top scorer to Ronaldo too.
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Yeamans, I wanna change to Ronalda, er, Ronaldo too.
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Re: Champions League predictions: 1st round and pre-season predictions
Overall winner: Real Madrid
Top Scorer: Van Nistelroy

Group A:
BV Borussia Dortmund

Group B:
Valencia CF

Group C:
Real Madrid CF

Group D:
Internazionale FC

Group E:
Juventus FC

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Bayer 04 Leverkusen

Group G:
FC Bayern München

Group H:
FC Barcelona

AJ Auxerre - PSV Eindhoven 0-2
Arsenal FC - BV Borussia Dortmund 1-1
Valencia CF - Liverpool FC 2-1
FC Basel - FC Spartak Moskva 2-1
KRC Genk - AEK Athens FC 2-2
AS Roma - Real Madrid CF 1-1
Rosenborg BK - Internazionale FC 0-2
AFC Ajax - Olympique Lyonnais 2-1

Feyenoord - Juventus FC 1-1
FC Dynamo Kyiv - Newcastle United FC 1-1
Manchester United - Maccabi Haifa 3-0
Olympiakos Piraeus - Bayer 04 Leverkusen 0-2
FC Bayern München - Deportivo La Coruña 1-1
Milan AC - RC Lens 2-0
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No fair! I picked Ronaldo first, I want to keep him for myself.
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Re: Champions League predictions: 1st round and pre-season predictions
My predictions:

Winner: Real Madrid
Top Scorer: Ronaldo

Group A Winner: BV Borussia Dortmund
Group B Winner: Valencia CF
Group C Winner: Real Madrid
Group D Winner: AFC Ajax
Group E Winner: Juventus FC
Group F Winner: Manchester United FC
Group G Winner: RC Deportivo La Coruña
Group H Winner: FC Barcelona

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FC Basel - FC Spartak Moskva 0-1
KRC Genk - AEK Athens FC 1-0
AS Roma - Real Madrid CF 1-2
Rosenborg BK - Internazionale FC 0-1
AFC Ajax - Olympique Lyonnais 1-0

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Feyenoord - Juventus FC 0-2
FC Dynamo Kyiv - Newcastle United FC 0-1
Manchester United - Maccabi Haifa 2-1
Olympiakos Piraeus - Bayer 04 Leverkusen 0-2
FC Bayern München - Deportivo La Coruña 1-2
Milan AC - RC Lens 1-0
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Fair enough.

BTW who would buy the training complex for that much, it wasn't the local governmnet was it?
Sorry but those training grounds are located on the financial centre of Madrid. Anyone would have paid that much for the terrain, so they could build three skyscrappers there.

Besides, do you have an idea how much money does Real Madrid make all over the world? Raúl, Zidane, Figo and Ronaldo can sell a few Real Madrid jerseys, you know.
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Ok so Madrid have a lot of money in the bank at the moment, to pay all those wages they are going to have use that money.

When they run out of money the next time they won't have a training ground to sell. However they will still spend more money than everyone else. The government wouldn't allow Madrid (or Barcelona for that matter) to go under
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Let's see: TV rights money, merchandising money, friendly matches (such as the last one in New York against Roma) money, season tickets (such as the one I own, almost €600, including CL matches) money... Real Madrid is, just as Man Utd for that matter, a money-making machine.

Oh, and all that "government support" whine... Are you sure you aren't a closet FC Barcelona fan?
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No i dont support either.

My point is they ran out of money before, what will happen when it happens again.

BTW Man Utd could find themselves in some difficulty after spending £30 mil on a center half
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Well, they ran out of money after 10 years of corrupted and moronic management. Remember Real Madrid paid nearly as much for Anelka three years ago as for Ronaldo now?

The club seems to be much better managed now, ever since Lorenzo Sanz went away, and Florentino Pérez is in office (don't know if that's the right word for a football club).

If things are done right, Real Madrid, Man Utd or even Barcelona can afford big transfers and still not run out of money, just because they're high-selling trade marks.
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In the year it spend £50 million strengthening the squad.
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CL winner: Inter
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B: Liverpool
C: Real Madrid
D: Inter
E: Juventus
F: Bayer
G: Bayern
H: Barcelona

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AJ Auxerre - PSV Eindhoven 2-1
Arsenal FC - BV Borussia Dortmund 2-0
Valencia CF - Liverpool FC 1-1
FC Basel - FC Spartak Moskva 1-0
KRC Genk - AEK Athens FC 0-1
AS Roma - Real Madrid CF 1-1
Rosenborg BK - Internazionale FC 1-1
AFC Ajax - Olympique Lyonnais 2-0

Wednesday, 18-09-2002:
Feyenoord - Juventus FC 0-0
FC Dynamo Kyiv - Newcastle United FC 2-2
Manchester United - Maccabi Haifa 4-0
Olympiakos Piraeus - Bayer 04 Leverkusen 1-2
FC Bayern München - Deportivo La Coruña 1-1
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Group B:
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Group C:
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Group D:
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Group E:
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Group F:
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Arsenal FC - BV Borussia Dortmund 1-2
Valencia CF - Liverpool FC 1-1
FC Basel - FC Spartak Moskva 0-2
KRC Genk - AEK Athens FC 0-0
AS Roma - Real Madrid CF 1-1
Rosenborg BK - Internazionale FC 0-1
AFC Ajax - Olympique Lyonnais 3-1

Wednesday, 18-09-2002:
Feyenoord - Juventus FC 3-1
FC Dynamo Kyiv - Newcastle United FC 2-1
Manchester United - Maccabi Haifa 4-0
Olympiakos Piraeus - Bayer 04 Leverkusen 0-1
FC Bayern München - Deportivo La Coruña 3-2
Milan AC - RC Lens 2-0
FC Lokomotiv Moskva - Galatasaray SK 1-1
FC Barcelona - Club Brugge KV 3-1

After the all 1-0 strategy there will be the "Juventus-to-lose-all-the-games" strategy...let see if it works
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mostly because Feyenoord is a much better team than Ajax is.
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Uhmm

I think this tactis will fail miserably

Maybe a Juventus-will-surely-win-every-single-game Strategy would work much better

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Uhmm

I think this tactis will fail miserably

Maybe a Juventus-will-surely-win-every-single-game Strategy would work much better

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Maybe...but " al cuor (granata) non si comanda"


I didn't expect to find a granata on these boards

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For those of you who are interested, UEFA has started UEFA Fantasy Champions League. I started an Apolyton league, which you can join with this code: 69195@_66362

And I just noticed that you can also win prizes:
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The highest points scorer each Matchday will scoop two tickets to a UEFA Champions League match of their choice as well as hotel accommodation. An alternative option of UEFA Champions League merchandise will also be offered.

Details of the overall prize will be announced on uefa.com in the near future.

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Link doesn't work

Try UEFA Fantasy Champions League.
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Right. I made a typo in the url, so I edited my post and I also edited in that you can win prizes.
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