$Mini-Game Trading Session 4 - Page 3

notyoueither · September 2, 2002, 01:41

Code:

House Julian
Turn 4.

Holdings: 
     "The Mustang Ranch" - 001, Apolyton N, Grass w Horse 2/0/2
Buildings:
     Tavern in Apolyton (0+1of3 complete)
Stkp: 0 food    0 shields    0 commerce
Prod: 2 food    0 shields    2 commerce

Cash: $276
Debt: -$1000 (Interest @ turn 18)
Selling:
     2 Food  @ $75/ea
     2 Comm  @ $55/ea
Buying:
     1 Shld  @ $85/ea
New D/S:
     Food: 32/33(31+2)    = $97
     Shld: 24(23+1)/27    = $89
     Comm: 48/32(30+2)    = $75
Construction:
     Tavern in Apolyton 1 Shield+1 Vassal

Damn the labour laws! Editing.

notyoueither · September 2, 2002, 01:57

Code:

House Julian
Turn 4.

Holdings: 
     "The Mustang Ranch" - 001, Apolyton N, Grass w Horse 2/0/2
Buildings:
     Tavern in Apolyton (0+2of3 complete)
Stkp: 0 food    0 shields    0 commerce
Prod: 2 food    0 shields    2 commerce

Cash: $276
Debt: -$1000 (Interest @ turn 18)
Selling:
     2 Food  @ $75/ea
     2 Comm  @ $55/ea
Buying:
     2 Shld  @ $95/ea
New D/S:
     Food: 32/33(31+2)    = $97
     Shld: 25(23+2)/27    = $93
     Comm: 48/32(30+2)    = $75
Construction:
     Tavern in Apolyton 2 Shield+1 Vassal+1 Labourer
     Hire 1 labour from Apolotonia @ $51 (D:S 2/4 =$50)

Question. To buy you must bid equal to or over the final D:S number? Even if supply is higher than the total number sought for purchase or hire?

Kuciwalker · September 2, 2002, 06:39

Update

Code:

Skywalker Corporation, Turn 4.  Admin: Skywalker
Holdings: 
     Tile 019, S Tassagrad, 2/1/1
Buildings:
     Tavern 0+(possible)1/3
Stockpile: 0+0 food    0+0 shields    0+0 commerce
Production:  2 food      1 shields      1 commerce
Cash Change: $0
     0    Selling
     0    Buying
Current Cash: $0      Debt: -$1000 (Interest @ turn 18)
Selling:
     2 Food  @ $90
     1 Comm  @ $70
     1 Labor @ $20 (NOT the labor point - just use it for a turn)
     4 Shares @ $100 (2 already sold to Kman)
Buying:
     1 German Worker @ $5
     Labor of 1 Tassagrad Laborer @ $33 to work on Tavern
New D/S:
     Food: 32/31+2  = $95
     Shield: 27/23+2 = $93
     Commerce: 48/31+1x.5  = $75
     Tassagrad Labor: 0+1/3  = $33

Kuciwalker · September 2, 2002, 07:30

The trading session is over.

Kuciwalker · September 2, 2002, 07:33

... or not. 4 minutes to go!

Kuciwalker · September 2, 2002, 07:37

The session is over... *looks at watch* ... NOW

GhengisFarb™ · September 2, 2002, 08:43

Quote:

Originally posted by skywalker
The session is over... *looks at watch* ... NOW

No......

Quote:

Originally posted by GhengisFarb
Turn 4 closes EXACTLY 72 hours from the post time of this message.

Started on 31st
1st would be 24 hours
2nd would be 48 hours
3rd would be 72 hours

Still have one day left..............

Kuciwalker · September 2, 2002, 09:07

Oops.

GhengisFarb™ · September 2, 2002, 09:10

Quote:

Originally posted by notyoueither
Question. To buy you must bid equal to or over the final D:S number? Even if supply is higher than the total number sought for purchase or hire?

Yes, (no explanation

)

Quote:

Originally posted by GhengisFarb

Code:

House Ghengis Land Holdings in the Province of Mingapulco
Turn #: 003 
Proposed Deals: 

Sell 7 food @ $76 (D:S 32/27 = $118)  
Sell 11 commerce @ $55 (D:S 48/23 (12+11)=$104)
Pay civman2000 $175 rent
Pay adaMada $110 rent
Pay UnOrthOdOx $100 rent
Pay Kloreep $100 rent
Pay jdd2007 $150 rent NEW TRANSACTION (has one commerce in stockpile)
Bid $5 each for two French Workers

TAVERN IN TASSAGRAD
Prebuilt in Trading Session 2 



	


	
		
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		GhengisFarb has built 3 of ? on a building in a city/estate.
	


	


TAVERN IN APOLYTON
Hire 1 labor from Apolotonia @ $26 (D:S 1/4 =$25)
Use vassal from Shiek 
Use vassal from adaMada

TAVERN IN BHQ
Hire 1 labor from BHQ @ $26 (D:S 1/4 =$25)
Use vassal from UnOthOdOx
Use vassal from civman2000

STOREHOUSE ON ESTATE OF GHENGISFARB
Use my vassal 
Use vassal from Kloreep

All Proposed Deals still offered and valid except for the following changes:

Code:

Proposed Deals: 

Sell 12 food @ $76  (D:S 32/36=$88) 
Sell 15 commerce @ $55  (D:S 48/36(8+28) = $66)
Hire 1 labor from Apolotonia @ $51 (D:S 2/4 =$50)
Pay jdd2007 $150 rent

I currently show the following for D:S rates:

FOOD
D:S 32/36(10+26) = $88

SHIELDS
D:S 25(22+3)/27(23+4) = $93

COMMERCE
D:S 48/36(8+28) = $66

Kuciwalker · September 2, 2002, 09:14

GhengisFarb - will you just choose how much stuff you're going to sell and be done with it? This way we have to keep changing stuff to meet the D:S.

GhengisFarb™ · September 2, 2002, 09:27

Quote:

Originally posted by skywalker
GhengisFarb - will you just choose how much stuff you're going to sell and be done with it? This way we have to keep changing stuff to meet the D:S.

Your going to have to do that as people add stuff to the market. Notice my prices haven't changed just the quantities as people asked me to manage things. My prices are set based on the ending price if everybody sells.

If you want to squeeze the last bit of profit then you will have to keep changing your price though.

Kuciwalker · September 2, 2002, 09:56

My problem is that with you increasing the supply I have to go adjust or I won't be ALLOWED to sell.

GhengisFarb™ · September 2, 2002, 10:38

There's still the following players to sell food:
Darkness' Edge-2
Jonny-1
rendelnep-2
Spiffor-1

Kuciwalker · September 2, 2002, 12:23

Can I just say this: either sell at the current price I have listed OR at $3 less than the D:S, if my currently listed price is above the D:S.

Nimitz · September 2, 2002, 14:43

Code:

Banana Pastures , Turn 4.  Admin: Nimitiz
Holdings: 
     Tile 031, NW Banana HQ, 2/1/2
-Update-
Selling:
     2 Food  @ $75 each
     2 Comm  @ 55 each
     1 shield @ 75 each
Buying:
     Nothing
New D/S:
     Food: 32/36  =$88
     Shld: 258)/27   = $93
     Comm: 48/36   = $66

Updated prices

Kramerman · September 2, 2002, 14:51

Updated prices

Quote:

Originally posted by Kramerman
Updated my selling prices. The D:S is no different.

Code:

Kramerman's Brothel Ranch 
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Proposed Deals: 
selling: 
Sell 2 of 2 food @ $80
Sell 1 of 1 shields @ $85
Sell 5 of 5 commerce @ $60

buying: 
I would like to buy two (2) share of the skywalker corporation for $200 total. 

other: 
renting out my one labor for $20 for one turn. 

I would like to pay of $130 of my debt.

Kuciwalker · September 2, 2002, 15:19

Code:

Skywalker Corporation, Turn 4.  Admin: Skywalker
Holdings: 
     Tile 019, S Tassagrad, 2/1/1
Buildings:
     Tavern 0+(possible)1/3
Stockpile: 0+0 food    0+0 shields    0+0 commerce
Production:  2 food      1 shields      1 commerce
Cash Change: $0
     0    Selling
     0    Buying
Current Cash: $0      Debt: -$1000 (Interest @ turn 18)
Selling:
     2 Food  @ $80
     1 Comm  @ $55
     1 Labor @ $20 (NOT the labor point - just use it for a turn)
     4 Shares @ $100 (2 already sold to Kman)
Buying:
     1 German Worker @ $5
     Labor of 1 Tassagrad Laborer @ $33 to work on Tavern
New D/S:
     NO! I'm not changing the number of things that I'm
     selling, so go look at a previous thing for the new D:S.

Jonny · September 2, 2002, 23:03

Estate Jonny - Turn 4
Holdings: Tile 003a, Apolyton SW (forest, road)
Buildings: None
Cash: $420
Debt: -$1200 (Interest starting turn 18)
Stockpile: 0 food, 0 shields, 0 commerce
Production: 1 food, 2 shields, 1 commerce

Selling This Turn:
1 of 1 food @ $75 (New D:S = 32:36+1 = 32:37 = $86)
2 of 2 shields @ $75 (New D:S = 25:27+2 = 25:29 = $86)
1 of 1 commerce @ $50 (New D:S = 48:36+1 = 48:37 = $65)

Other Actions:
I'd like to pay off $420 of my debt.

GhengisFarb™ · September 3, 2002, 06:09

I currently show the following for D:S rates:

FOOD
D:S 32/37(10+27) = $86

SHIELDS
D:S 25(22+3)/29(23+6) = $86

COMMERCE
D:S 48/37(8+29) = $64

GhengisFarb™ · September 3, 2002, 07:47

Quote:

Originally posted by GhengisFarb

Code:

House Ghengis Land Holdings in the Province of Mingapulco
Turn #: 003 
Proposed Deals: 

 Sell 12 food @ $76  (D:S 32/36=$88)   
 Sell 15 commerce @ $55  (D:S 48/36(8+28) = $66)
 
Pay civman2000 $175 rent
Pay adaMada $110 rent
Pay UnOrthOdOx $100 rent
Pay Kloreep $100 rent
Pay jdd2007 $150 rent (has one commerce in stockpile)
Bid $5 each for two French Workers

TAVERN IN TASSAGRAD
Prebuilt in Trading Session 2 



	


	
		
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		GhengisFarb has built 3 of ? on a building in a city/estate.
	


	


TAVERN IN APOLYTON
Hire 1 labor from Apolotonia @ $51 (D:S 2/4 =$50)
Use vassal from Shiek 
Use vassal from adaMada

TAVERN IN BHQ
Hire 1 labor from BHQ @ $26 (D:S 1/4 =$25)
Use vassal from UnOthOdOx
Use vassal from civman2000

STOREHOUSE ON ESTATE OF GHENGISFARB
Use my vassal 
Use vassal from Kloreep

All Proposed Deals still offered and valid except for the following changes:

Code:

Proposed Deals: 

Sell 14 food @ $80  (D:S 32/39=$82) 
Sell 15 commerce @ $60  (D:S 48/37(8+29) = $64)

GhengisFarb™ · September 3, 2002, 07:49

MARKET CLOSED

GhengisFarb™ · September 3, 2002, 09:05

FINAL TRANSACTION LIST FOR SESSION 4
Here's what I came up with for completed transactions:

Labor Market
Apolyton Available Labor: 4
D:S 2/4 = $50
GhengisFarb hired 1 labor @ $51
notyoueither hired 1 labor @ $51

Termina Available Labor: 3
D:S 1/3 = $33
Epistax hired 1 labor @ $33

Tassagrad Available Labor: 3
D:S 0/4 = $0
NO TRANSACTIONS

BHQ Available Labor: 4
D:S 1/4 = $25
GhengisFarb hired 1 labor @ $26

Port Rouge Available Labor: 2
D:S 0/4 = $0
NO TRANSACTIONS

Vassals for Auction:
.....7 bids so far TOTAL (4 generic)

1 German SOLD
skywalker bought 1 German vassal for $10

3 French TWO SOLD 1 will be available next trading session.
GhengisFarb bought 2 French vassals at $5 (2 x $5)

4 Persian SOLD
UnOrthOdOx bought 4 Persian vassals at $5 (4 x $5)

D:S = 6/14 = $29 (Minimum Wage)
FINAL TRANSACTIONS:
Epistax hired 1 labor(Termina) @ $33
GhengisFarb hired 1 labor(Apolyton) @ $51
GhengisFarb hired 1 labor(BHQ) @ $26
GhengisFarb bought 2 French vassals $5
notyoueither hired 1 labor(Apolyton) @ $51
skywalker bought 1 German vassal for $10
UnOrthOdOx bought 4 Persian vassals at $5

FOOD MARKET
Food demand: 32
Food supplied: 10
Food sold: 29

D:S = 32/(10+29)39 = 82%
End price = $82
FINAL TRANSACTIONS:
Duddha sold 2 food at $80
Epistax sold 2 food at $80
GhengisFarb sold 14 food at $80
Jonny sold 1 food at $75
Kramerman sold 2 food at $80
Nimitz sold 2 food at $75
notyoueither sold 2 food at $75
Shiek sold 2 food at $76
skywalker sold 2 food at $80

SHIELD MARKET
Shields demand: 22
Shields supplied: 23
Shields sold: 6 Shields bought: 3

D:S = 25(22+3)/29(23 +6) = 86%
End price = $86
FINAL TRANSACTIONS:
Duddha sold 2 shields at $80
Epistax bought 1 shields at $60- PRICED BELOW MINIMUM BID
Jonny sold 2 shields at $75
Kramerman sold 1 shield at $85
notyoueither bought 2 shields at $93

COMMERCE MARKET
Commerce demand: 48
Commerce supplied: 8
Commerce sold: 29

D:S = 48/(8 + 29)37 = 65%
End price = $65
FINAL TRANSACTIONS:
Duddha sold 2 commerce at $60
Epistax sold 1 commerce at $50
GhengisFarb sold 15 commerce at $60
Jonny sold 3 commerce at $50
Kramerman sold 3 commerce at $60
Nimitz sold 2 commerce at $55
notyoueither sold 2 commerce at $55
skywalker sold 1 commerce at $55

Total Incomes
adaMada received $110 rent from GhengisFarb
..........Total Income for Turn =$110 (Cash $220, Debt $1200)

civman2000 received $175 rent from GhengisFarb
civman2000 paid $175 of debt
..........Total Income for Turn =$0 (Cash $0, Debt $475)

Darkness' Edge
..........Total Income for Turn =$0 (Cash $0, Debt $400)

Duddha sold 2 food at $80
Duddha sold 2 shields at $80
Duddha sold 2 commerce at $60
Duddha paid off $80 of debt
..........Total Income for Turn =$360 (Cash $440, Debt $920)

Epistax sold 2 food at $80
Epistax bought 1 shields at $60- PRICED BELOW MINIMUM BID
Epistax sold 1 commerce at $50
Epistax hired 1 labor(Termina) @ $33
..........Total Income for Turn = -$177 (Cash $346, Debt $750)

Frances
..........Total Income for Turn =$0 (Cash $405, Debt $1100)

GhengisFarb sold 14 food at $80
GhengisFarb sold 15 commerce at $60
GhengisFarb hired 1 labor(Apolyton) @ $51
GhengisFarb hired 1 labor(BHQ) @ $26
GhengisFarb bought 2 French vassals $5
GhengisFarb paid adaMada $110 rent
GhengisFarb paid civman2000 $175 rent
GhengisFarb paid jdd2007 $150 rent
GhengisFarb paid Kloreep $200 rent
GhengisFarb paid UnOrthOdOx $100 rent
..........Total Income for Turn =$1198 (Cash=$1209, Debt=$1000
FINISHED TAVERN IN APOLYTON
FINISHED TAVERN IN BHQ
FINISHED TAVERN IN TASSAGRAD
FINISHED STOREHOUSE ON ESTATE OF GHENGISFARB

jdd2007 received $150 rent from GhengisFarb
..........Total Income for Turn = $150 (Cash $665, Debt $750)

Jonny sold 1 food at $75
Jonny sold 2 shields at $75
Jonny sold 1 commerce at $50
Jonny paid off $420 of debt
..........Total Income for Turn = -$145 (Cash $275, Debt $780)

Kloreep received $200 rent from GhengisFarb
..........Total Income for Turn =$200 (Cash $662, Debt $1400)

Kramerman sold 2 food at $80
Kramerman sold 1 shield at $85
Kramerman sold 5 commerce at $60
Kramerman paid off $130 debt
Kramerman bought 2 shares of skywalker at $100
..........Total Income for Turn =$215 (Cash $545, Debt $1370)

Nimitz sold 2 food at $75
Nimitz sold 2 commerce at $55
..........Total Income for Turn =$260 (Cash $260, Debt $1500)

notyoueither sold 2 food at $75
notyoueither bought 2 shields at $93
notyoueither sold 2 commerce at $55
notyoueither hired 1 labor(Apolyton) @ $51
..........Total Income for Turn =$23 (Cash $299, Debt $1000)
2 of 3 completed on a Tavern In Apolyton

rendelnep
..........Total Income for Turn =$0 (Cash $0, Debt $1020)

Shiek sold 2 food at $76
..........Total Income for Turn =$152 (Cash $152, Debt $400)

skywalker sold 2 food at $80
skywalker sold 1 commerce at $55
skywalker bought 1 German vassal for $10
skywalker sold 2 shares at $100
..........Total Income for Turn =$405 (Cash $405, Debt $1000)

Spiffor
..........Total Income for Turn =$0 (Cash $240, Debt $775)

UnOrthOdOx received $100 rent from GhengisFarb
UnOrthOdOx bought 4 Persian vassals at $5
..........Total Income for Turn =$80 (Cash $205, Debt $225)

Anyone notice any mistakes/corrections?

CURRENT STOCKPILES
Discontinued.....(Mind you I still keep track so don't think about fudging your inventory.)

CONSTRUCTION STATUS
Epistax has built 2 of ? on a ? in Termina
Franses has built 4 of ? on a building in a city/estate.
GhengisFarb finished a Tavern in Apolyton
GhengisFarb finished a Tavern in BHQ
GhengisFarb finished a Tavern in Tassagrad
GhengisFarb finished a Storehouse on his Estate
notyoueither has built 2 of 3 on a Tavern in Apolyton

GhengisFarb™ · September 3, 2002, 12:21

Anybody out there?

Helloooo?

McFly, can you here me?

civman2000 · September 3, 2002, 20:00

GF: Last session I paid back $350 of my debt in addition to the $175 paid back this turn. This means I have no cash and $475 debt

GhengisFarb™ · September 3, 2002, 20:04

Quote:

Originally posted by civman2000
GF: Last session I paid back $350 of my debt in addition to the $175 paid back this turn. This means I have no cash and $475 debt

Well, at least I spelled your name right.

I was about to declare the $Mini-game dead.... no one seemed interested in how the session turned out.

Jonny · September 3, 2002, 23:17

Genghis, just so you know, I only produced and sold one commerce, not three.

So, I had a total income of -$145, and currently have $275 in cash, and a debt of $780.

notyoueither · September 4, 2002, 00:35

Don't lose heart GF, some of us get busy from time to time.

The time to worry would be if only 3 or 4 people bother to attempt to make any trades.

Kramerman · September 4, 2002, 00:43

good job GF

You sure do put alot of work into this mini game and make it much easier and therefore more enjoyable to play. Keep it up

Kman

notyoueither · September 4, 2002, 03:03

I agree. Franses and GF have done a very good job of doing the work to keep this going. My only question would be... where's Franses?

jdd2007 · September 4, 2002, 06:34

im rather surprised to find that i have $705 in cash, but if GF says so, it has to be true. next turn i can clear up all my debt.