4th Apolyton CtP2 SP Tournament: 3 September - 3 November 2002

Locutus · September 2, 2002, 16:38

Added note: because Cradle is such a time consuming mod, it was eventually decided that this tournament would last 2 months rather than 1. So the end-date is November 3 rather than October 3.

Time for the 4th tournament already. Like last month, the name of the autosave folder is wrong - Peric instead of Augus (as one would expect from a Roman game). Probably an XP issue. A little awkward, but it won't stop anyone from playing, I'm sure...

Anyway, this month it's Cradle's turn. For clarity: we're playing the regular version of Cradle ("CRADLE 1.32" in ModSwapper), not any of the special Victory Options or anything. Cradle's a popular mod and it hasn't been updated in a while, so probably most of you won't have to install it anymore, but just in case installation instructions will be available on the website later today, tomorrow at the very latest.

This map has more land terrain than the last Tournament, so I think the AI will be able to put up an even better fight.

Good luck to all! Hopefully we can break last month's record of 11 particants! Oh, and Dave, I fully expect to see a savegame from you as well this time

Theme: Classical Clash
Mod: Cradle of Civilizations v1.32
Level: Very Hard
Size: Huge Map
Barbarians: Raiders
Ocean-Land: 40%
Island-Continent: 80%
Wet-Dry: 20%
Warm-Cold: 20%
Uniform-Diverse: 90%
Few Goods-Many Goods: 80%
World shape: Earth World
Bloodlust: Off
Pollution: On
Civilization: Romans
Opponents: 7 (Greeks, Etruscans, Celts, Persians, Carthaginians, Egyptians, Nubians)
Victory types allowed: All

Gamefile

Website

Dread_Doomfist · September 2, 2002, 18:14

ummm...Cradle 1.32?? I have only the choice between ultra-gigantic maps, seti-colony, global empire, birth of empire and - i hope you mean this one -
the cradle 1.3 Beta...

HuangShang · September 2, 2002, 18:55

i already d'l ed it
not started yet...

BTW whys the 3rd Apolyton CtP2 SP Tournament thread still there

Locutus · September 2, 2002, 18:58

Good point, Dread_Doomfist, thanks for bringing it up!

Then you probably don't have the latest version, please download the latest version from the Directory or from The Land of Hexagonia, hexagonian's website. Probably you'll want it from hex's website as that way your download is much smaller (you only need the text update AFAIK, which is much smaller than the total file in the Directory).

Locutus · September 2, 2002, 18:58

The 3rd Tourney thread will remain there until I can announce the official results (which should be any minute now

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HuangShang · September 2, 2002, 19:03

WOW :wow: that reply was so quick yo

Locutus · September 2, 2002, 19:09

Well, it was a crosspost

Dread_Doomfist · September 2, 2002, 19:48

Quote:

Originally posted by Locutus
Good point, Dread_Doomfist, thanks for bringing it up!

Then you probably don't have the latest version, please download the latest version from the Directory or from The Land of Hexagonia, hexagonian's website. Probably you'll want it from hex's website as that way your download is much smaller (you only need the text update AFAIK, which is much smaller than the total file in the Directory).

...leeched the mod from directory..but it's only the version 1.3...ok...now i try the hexagonia website...

hope it works....

Locutus · September 2, 2002, 20:09

Oops, your right

Better get that updated ASAP then...

Dread_Doomfist · September 2, 2002, 20:16

aehm....installed the update..now version 1.32...but the same mainproblem with the game...the science..

year 7000 BC and i can research republic, virtual democracy, aerodynamics and so...it's to early...need over 1000 turns to resarch...the only things that i can build are nomads and one wonder..temple of zeus...

any idea?

Locutus · September 2, 2002, 20:28

Hmm, there's a mod-incompatibility problem then: one of us is using the wrong mod. Probably me - maybe Leonardo's graphics add-on is causing it? Hmm... I have to work all day tomorrow so I'm going to sleep in a few minutes, don't have time for a reinstall now. If you want to, you could try installing the graphics add-on yourself to see if that solves your problem. If you don't want this or this does'nt work either, I'll see if I can figure out the problem is myself tomorrow.

mnbryan37 · September 2, 2002, 22:05

I've never played a Cradle game before. Is there a detailed description somewhere as to what the game is all about?

Bill

Maquiladora · September 2, 2002, 22:17

Quote:

Originally posted by mnbryan37
I've never played a Cradle game before. Is there a detailed description somewhere as to what the game is all about?

Bill

Theres some very good readmes in the installation files and also some very informative pdf files on new governments and advances units etc. I guess it would be best to either download it and look at the main readmes and pdfs or have a gander at the cradle thread... here

Maquiladora · September 2, 2002, 22:21

Or have a look at this, it says 1.2 but it gives a good idea about what its all about, i think.

Dread_Doomfist · September 3, 2002, 11:59

..after installing graphics add-on....the same problem..and one more...lol...slowly i hate this mod..lol...
hmm..i think the problem is...i play the game in german....there are 3 folders in ctp_data ....default/english/german
the mod updates only the folders default and english...
i copy all files of the mod in the german folder..but it doesn't work really...
maybe...anyone of the german players can help me to fix it?

TIA

HuangShang · September 3, 2002, 14:12

so does that mean it'll work when i start playing on Thursday?

Maquiladora · September 3, 2002, 16:18

Quote:

Originally posted by Dread_Doomfist
..after installing graphics add-on....the same problem..and one more...lol...slowly i hate this mod..lol...
hmm..i think the problem is...i play the game in german....there are 3 folders in ctp_data ....default/english/german
the mod updates only the folders default and english...
i copy all files of the mod in the german folder..but it doesn't work really...
maybe...anyone of the german players can help me to fix it?

TIA

I dont think its because you have a german version. Ive got the strange advance options at the beginning of the game too.

mapfi · September 3, 2002, 16:40

@Dread-Doomfist

Here's how I got cradle to work with the german version of the game. First, copy the zipped ctp2_data folders normally into the appropriate directory. After you've installed all the necessary files from hex site, you go into english\gamefile and just copy all the files with start with CRA into the german\gamedata folder. This should do it. If not, might help to do a clean install. Works fine on my pc though.
As for the mod it's just cradle 1.32, no special victory options.

Locutus: Do we play with the default diplomod 3.5 or the 3.6?

TheArsenal · September 3, 2002, 17:37

Since this was the last major mod I have not played, it's good to see it picked for the tournament.

- Just to be clear, is the version in the directory the latest?

ETB · September 3, 2002, 17:39

I just downloaded the Cradle Mod from the CtP2 file directory – all 12.8MB of it

I thought that it was rather convenient that it appeared first in the list of mods to download. I read the main Cradle Mod Readme file and it provides a nice overview of the mod. I am looking forward to my very first Cradle game. I reviewed some of the new units and those special units really caught my interest! Rome will be an interesting place indeed…

Shadow · September 3, 2002, 18:49

DD, I have the same problem, and I have the English version (I assume, whatever we got in Australia which may be slightly different, I dunno...).

The mods I've installed are: Patch, Modswapper, SAP, Cradle 1.3, Cradle 1.32 update. In that order.

Never had a problem with Cradle before, not sure what's going on now. I'll post it when I find out if someone doesn't beat me to it.

Shadow

Shadow · September 3, 2002, 19:00

Ok, read all the readmes I could find, didn't find anything.
Tried restarting but reloading slic this time (through message box), and that just made the slic errors worse.

I'm gunna try uninstalling and reinstalling...

Shadow · September 3, 2002, 19:02

Loc, while I remember...

I've seen things like this happen when I've loaded CTP II with the wrong modswapper setting. Are you SURE you loaded Cradle1.32 when you started the game and created the save for everyone?

Shadow · September 3, 2002, 19:32

OK. Uninstalled and reinstalled. Loaded mods in this order:

Patch, Cradle 1.3, Modswapper, Cradle 1.31 update, Cradle 1.32 update.

Same problem.
Got me beat. I hope someone's having better luck, 'cos I'm itching to play!

Shadow

Dread_Doomfist · September 3, 2002, 20:47

good to hear i'm not alone with my problems ;-)

Shadow · September 3, 2002, 20:47

Has anyone got it to work yet?

TheArsenal · September 3, 2002, 21:05

Quote:

Originally posted by Dread_Doomfist
good to hear i'm not alone with my problems ;-)

Nope. I downloaded the mod from this site. After creating my first city, my build choices were a Nomad and some genetic age beast called a Kraken (quite formidable looking). I'm going to muck around with it to see if I'm doing something wrong.

mnbryan37 · September 3, 2002, 23:24

Thanks Maguiladora. This looks like a neat Mod and I think I'll give it a try. I'm a slow learner though, so I may not even finish the current tourney game, but it should be fun.

Bill

Shadow · September 3, 2002, 23:54

Seems there's a few people with exactly the same problem.

Which leads me to think that, Loc, it may be an issue with your save game... although I'm no guru at this, so it's very likely that I'm wrong.

If you want, load up CTP II v.Cradle1.32, save a game at the opening turn, and email it to me. If it works fine then that should help us narrow things down.
Your call.

Cheers,
Shadow

Locutus · September 4, 2002, 03:59

Guys, like I already said in the beginning of this thread, it's probably a problem on my side: I do all sorts of modwork all the time and usually use Cradle as basis for this work. Normally I have seperate modswapper options for my own modifications but sometimes things go wrong. I'm busy reinstalling and making a new Tournament game now, will post the new game later today.

BTW, the files you need to install are the file in the Directory here on Apolyton plus the "1.3/1.31 to 1.32 UPDATE (dated 05/22/02)" on Hex's website.