2002: The Game Year

DarkCloud · September 5, 2002, 09:22

Just wondering, do you consider 2002 to be one of the best game years?

Just look at the games released this year (or close to it):
Zoo Tycoon
Empire Earth
Neverwinter Nights
Homm4
Warcraft III
etc.

Compared to the last 2 years, 2002 is just amazing

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So... do you think that 2002 is a reverse year in the history of computer gaming. Will it once again begin to release some good games again?

Bkeela · September 6, 2002, 18:39

No, not a particularly good year. None of those games you mentioned interest me in the slightest. Just another year.

Bkeela.

Apocalypse · September 6, 2002, 19:39

At the end we might get Hearts of Iron and Lionheart. IceWind Dale II isn't that bad supposedly. SimGolf was pretty fun for a while.

It wasn't that bad.

Tuberski · September 6, 2002, 19:45

Where is Morrowind on your list, DC?

Chowlett · September 6, 2002, 19:48

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Where is Morrowind on your list, DC?

The obvious, and pedantic answer is "nowhere". So I shall give it.

Nowhere.

Tuberski · September 6, 2002, 22:27

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Originally posted by Chowlett

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Where is Morrowind on your list, DC?

The obvious, and pedantic answer is "nowhere". So I shall give it.

Nowhere.

Okay, how about "Why isn't it on the list?"

Adagio · September 7, 2002, 04:49

Zoo Tycoon - Wasn't that released last year?
Empire Earth - Never tried...
Neverwinter Nights - Never will try
Homm4 - Got no clue whatsoever this is...
Warcraft III - It's good, but it lags on replayability
etc.

How about mentioning the games that's about to be released (go to www.gonegold.com to find a good list, of yet-to-come games)...Just to mention a few:

RollerCoaster Tycoon 2 - The first one was great, so it'll be nice to get some more featues

SimCity 4 - Damn it looks good, if it'll be released this year, then it'll be the game of the year (If my computer is fast enough to run it...)

But apart from those two games, there's nothing special about the games released/to-be-released this year...

DarkCloud · September 7, 2002, 12:02

Morrowind- not on my list because I hate most 3D games- Empire Earth/.Newerwinter Nights being the only good 3D games that I know of. But it probably should be on the list because it is considered a 'good' game

RCT2 looks horrid. All they seem to be adding are 'real parks' which is a disgusting rip off.

As for simCity4- it looks promising- but I doubt it will be released this year.

Homm4- heroes of might and magic IV- Turn Based RPG strategy gaming

DarkCloud · September 7, 2002, 12:03

But if you don't think 2002 was that great a year- what was the best year for games? 1994- Civ II

or some other year?

Adagio · September 7, 2002, 13:11

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Originally posted by DarkCloud
RCT2 looks horrid. All they seem to be adding are 'real parks' which is a disgusting rip off.

Well...graphics haven't been what dragged people into RCT... But at least (from what I've read) they have changed the most annoying things from the original game, and added some stuff...though it looks more like an addon, but it's still among the most funny/replayable games to be (or has been) released this year...

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Originally posted by DarkCloud
As for simCity4- it looks promising- but I doubt it will be released this year.

At the moment it is set to be released late this year, and they told they were ahead the schedule... though I wouldn't be supprised if it wont be released this year (But you're allowed to hope, right?)

Adagio · September 7, 2002, 13:13

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Originally posted by DarkCloud
But if you don't think 2002 was that great a year- what was the best year for games? 1994- Civ II

or some other year?

I haven't looked that much on which games was released which year, before now, so I can't tell...

monolith94 · September 8, 2002, 05:25

I remember one year, I think both Starcraft and Myth 2 came out…

Oh dear god…

Father Beast · September 8, 2002, 09:22

I don't know. This has been a good year. I keep thinking that either 95 or 96 produced a number of fantastic games, though....

yet to come this year is moo3. darned if I know if it will come out this year, or it will be that good.

but this year has been good for rpgs. Dungeon siege got a lot of hype, but it has died out pretty quick.
Morrowind and neverwinter nights have both come out to more than make up for it. maybe even as the best rpg's ever done.

from all that I've heard, homm4 and zoo tycoon are lukewarm.

Traianvs · September 8, 2002, 13:39

'94 => civ2
'99 => SoF1

btw maybe you guys don't enjoy games that much except civ

AoW1 and2, Stronghold, gp2, caesar2, stonekeep!, age of empires 1 and 2 .......... Baldur's gate1 and 2, Thief: The dark project, gta1 and 2, homm3..., warcraft, monkey island, ...the list is endless

there's nothing like a good or bad year.. kickass games have been released for years, for an addicted pc-gamer like me anyway

of course there's a lot of trash too like q3, CS and so on
most crap is released on console though, hell, everything on console is crap!

Pavlov · September 8, 2002, 13:44

Zoo Tycoon? But that game, um uh, sucks.

And to answer your question, no.

St Leo · September 8, 2002, 14:28

Europa Universalis 2 (I bumped it up a year because EU1 was also released last year)
Warlords Battlecry 2

DarkCloud · September 8, 2002, 14:28

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Well...graphics haven't been what dragged people into RCT

Oh, I wasn't commenting on that- I was merely saying that all the 'small' changes are a rip off unless they include a sandbox mode that ISNT only accessable after beating all the scenarios.

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(But you're allowed to hope, right?)

I suppose so

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yet to come this year is moo3. darned if I know if it will come out this year, or it will be that good.

Hopefully it will fulfill its promise more than Civ III

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from all that I've heard, homm4 and zoo tycoon are lukewarm.

Well, at least they are solid games... or at least Homm4 is after the patches... but they are both solidly built professional games at the core

Homm4, Civ III and ZooTycoon were a bit low on the scale, but were on many people's 'must have' lists and I can see some people playing them 2 years from now... unless sequels are made

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But trajanus- 2000 and 2001-- Lots of trashy games!!!
The only good games (other than FPSes) that came out were Black Isle and Interplay's games "Baldur's Gate I, II, Icewind Dale I, Planescape: Torment, etc."
And I think Diablo II came ount in 2000, although I'm not sure

Dauphin · September 8, 2002, 14:31

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Originally posted by St Leo
Europa Universalis 2 (I bumped it up a year because EU1 was also released last year)
Warlords Battlecry 2

For some of us it was released in 2002.

Pavlov · September 8, 2002, 14:34

[QUOTE] Originally posted by DarkCloud
Homm4, Civ III and ZooTycoon were a bit low on the scale, but were on many people's 'must have' lists and I can see some people playing them 2 years from now... unless sequels are made

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Have you actually played Zoo Tycoon? I tried the demo and rest assured, it stinks. I suppose it might be a suitable game for four-year-olds and lobotomized people.

Zkribbler · September 8, 2002, 14:37

Judging by the number of posts it got on its thread here, it looks like Morrowind.

However, I'm having a blast designing my own scenario (called a "module") in Neverwinter Nights.

So it'd get my vote.

DarkCloud · September 8, 2002, 14:45

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Have you actually played Zoo Tycoon? I tried the demo and rest assured, it stinks. I suppose it might be a suitable game for four-year-olds and lobotomized people.

I played it- I don't own it- but it would be fun for a time- no worse than RCT I would think

Pavlov · September 8, 2002, 14:52

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Originally posted by DarkCloud

I played it- I don't own it- but it would be fun for a time- no worse than RCT I would think

I don't agree with you on that one. While in RCT you build rollercoasters (fun fun fun) and have to juggle things such as food, toilets vomits etc. (Metaphorically, of course

) In ZT you put some ole lions and a cage and a pop-up arrives: "Lion #1 wants some more trees". Whoa, slow down on the info there, bubba!

ZT is bland, it's as easy as that. RCT is colourful.

(Even if it is the colour of vomits)

Zkribbler · September 8, 2002, 17:20

Agh, quick! Call a handyman!!

Adagio · September 9, 2002, 08:28

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Originally posted by DarkCloud
I played it- I don't own it- but it would be fun for a time- no worse than RCT I would think

Impossible to agree here... as Pavlov said, rct is the game with a lot of fun (Making action packed coasters

), while zt is just about animals... ok, admitted, I never was that crazy about animals, the only animals I care about is spiders, snakes, etc. so until they make a Spider Zoo Tycoon, Zoo tycoon games wont get a high score (by me atleast)...

DarkCloud · September 9, 2002, 21:29

Well, you also have crowd management- but yes RCT is better

But Zoo Tycoon has its points- the managment of the animal's is fun for a time at least and mixing and matching to please the animals should be a good strategic challenge

But as you said- it would probably wear thin- but the game at least deserves *** to **** stars

Qilue · September 9, 2002, 22:38

Morrowind was the only game I did buy this year since nothing else interested me.

alofatti · September 10, 2002, 00:17

This year was pretty bad.
All these games now require such a huge machine to run them...
HOMM 4 was not especially good... It lacked a little bit of polishing.
Warcraft 3. I saw it for three minutes and absolutely hated those graphics.
Neverwinter Nights - Argh! I hate that game! I have tried everything but I am unable to get more than 1 FPS.

Felch · September 10, 2002, 01:58

Have you tried getting a more RAM or something? It's not that expensive to upgrade to a middle-weight machine.

Adagio · September 10, 2002, 06:09

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Originally posted by alofatti
Warcraft 3. I saw it for three minutes and absolutely hated those graphics.

I agree, the graphics sucks, but the gameplay is better (To bad it's main failure is re-play-ability)

moomin · September 10, 2002, 07:02

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Originally posted by alofatti
Neverwinter Nights - Argh! I hate that game! I have tried everything but I am unable to get more than 1 FPS.

Well, NWN - along with MW - drew me back to RPGs after a decade of not playing them. It's a great game. In MP, it's boundless fun and seriously addictive. It's the closest you ever gonne get to playing D&D in the cellar with the guys when you where ten. But of course it requires a halfway modern box. On my AMD 2K+ box, it runs smoother than silk. And it's not really a state of the art machine anymore.