Election: Foreign Affairs Minister (Term 4)

MrWhereItsAt · September 12, 2002, 08:37

We need a Foreign Affairs Minister for term 4!

Who shall it be?

Candidates

Togas (incumbent)
Nimitz (DIA)

You got 5 days, until about 1243GMT on 17 September.

E_T · September 12, 2002, 10:36

I'd like to know what Nimitz & Togas have to say before I vote. Please atlease have some sort of campain.

E_T

MrWhereItsAt · September 12, 2002, 10:39

Nimitz might have a few words, but I haven't seen him post recently.

Togas is away, he gets back in a coupla days (too lazy to track down exact time - it'll be in the FAM Term III thread, probably), so he can't say much except likely: more of what he has been doing so far this term.

adaMada · September 12, 2002, 15:17

Togas is away, he'll be back on the 15th.

If anyone has any questions about his goals and what he's accomplished this term, I'd be happy to answer (if such a campeign thread was created by Nimitz, then I'd probably represent Togas there for a few days). I can't speek, however, about next term -- we planned ahead to his return, but not beyond then.

Togas is really best represented by his work, however. A lot of information, compiled by the department under him, can be found in our office thread, at http://www.apolyton.net/forums/showt...hreadid=59421. He's put together a well managed department, and I think I speek for the entire Foreign Ministry when I say that we're proud of what we've accomplished this term.

-- adaMada

Duddha · September 12, 2002, 18:40

Don't let the DIA into power.

Ninot · September 12, 2002, 18:57

hrm... who to vote for....
Togas, a qualified guy
or Nimitz, a guy i dont know too much on other than DIA...

adaMada · September 12, 2002, 19:25

lol, too much party politics in this election.

Hawks running around all over the place opposing the DIA... DIA running all over the place opposing the Hawks...

From now on, I'm officially running all over the place and opposing all this opposing based on parties busness.

Seriously, we've got some good canidates running against each other, but I think that the determination of the 'best' one shouldn't be based on party. If you seriously can't pick, do what I do in those cases, and just don't vote.

Having said that, this is a Democracy game, so I guess everyone can do what they want, no matter how much it bugs me

. (That's one of the things we've gotta change in the Constitutional Convention

.

-- adaMada

Duddha · September 12, 2002, 19:29

I thought this was one of the least politicial elections. We have a grand total of two DIA and one Hawk running(vote for me

).

adaMada · September 12, 2002, 19:31

The second election was def. very political... The first was well before my time, so I don't know. This probably is the least political...

Still, I'm allowed to b*tch about it, right? Democracy game

...

-- adaMada

Ninot · September 12, 2002, 19:34

Quote:

Originally posted by adaMada
The second election was def. very political... The first was well before my time, so I don't know. This probably is the least political...

Still, I'm allowed to b*tch about it, right? Democracy game

...

-- adaMada

Well, it was political for a few people
and perhaps for Trip and I
but we liked to say it wasnt. made us feel more important.

MrWhereItsAt · September 13, 2002, 01:47

I'd like to hope my non-existence of political affiliations (beyond my beloved 3A2C3 ) has contributed to the slow, painful demise of parties here.

Quote:

Originally posted by adaMada

Having said that, this is a Democracy game, so I guess everyone can do what they want, no matter how much it bugs me

. (That's one of the things we've gotta change in the Constitutional Convention

.

-- adaMada

Damn! I knew I forgot SOMETHING I was supposed to do this term!

Sean · September 13, 2002, 02:16

At least this poll seems to be working.

Best of Luck Nimitz. Your insightful comments will be a great service to Apolyton, if you get into office.

Sean.

UnOrthOdOx · September 13, 2002, 09:07

Togas did a fine job, an excellent job, really, this term.

Nimitz, however, I have seen around, and he has always added intelligently to the conversations when he has felt the need.

Truly two qualified candidates.

Nimitz · September 14, 2002, 15:01

Yup, I'm around I just don't post much, I agree with most of Togas policies, but after persia and america I beleive we should stop warring and concetrate on building our self up and improving and mantaining good relations our neighbors and only fight war if we are pushed into it as in a demand we can't or will not comply with.

adaMada · September 14, 2002, 15:23

Nimitz,

Why don't you check out the Roman demanding our WM thread ((http://www.apolyton.net/forums/showt...threadid=61729)) if you've got a sec... it's an active debate, with both sides well represented, and a good example of a nasty decision the FM may have to make.

-- adaMada

Ninot · September 14, 2002, 16:56

I want a FAM who will bend over backwards to other civs, and give away tech secrets to my good friends Joan and Julius

whos the man?

Nimitz · September 14, 2002, 17:17

Not me unless it was helpful for us or we would get destroyed if we didn't.

Odin · September 14, 2002, 22:20

NOOOOOO!!!

Nimitz is loosing.

Get the hawk out!

Togas · September 14, 2002, 23:04

I have returned from vacation and need to start by thanking adaMada for his help while I was away. Without his help, the Ministry would have been in a horrible fix, and I am extremely grateful that he could fill in for me this past week.

Now that I'm back, I hope to be available to answer any questions before the election ends. Most of my work has been apparant, and can be seen through in the Foreign Ministry Office Thread. I plan to improve upon the system we put in place last term, and promise to keep the Ministry thread as current and full of information as possible.

I would like to make a couple of quick points about myself and how I'd run things:

Major decisions are polled and discussed. I started by doing "Machiavelli" threads, and later just went on to make general discussion threads. Major decisions are also discussed with other ministers and staff. A lot happens behind the scenes with PMs. Disagreements are hashed out and preliminary plans are formed. I intend to remain just as active next term if elected.

You will always have as much current information as I can give you, in one summary post, but also in our office tread updates. If you have a question, the answer should be there. If it is not, PM me or my staff and we'll make sure you get the answer.

I have my opinions. I know how I'd like to resolve most issues. I poll anyway. I find myself hoping that you'll feel the way I do about the issues but if you don't, then I'll go along with the majority. This is a democracy, after all.

Your suggestions and plans are not ignored. I frequently use plans proposed by citizens, and plans that aren't used word-for-word are improved upon and implimented. If I'm FAM again, your ideas and insights will be put into action.

I am not a member of any political party. Please do not vote for or against me on a party basis. Please choose the candidate you feel will best serve Apolytonia.

Personally, I'm in support of the current war against Persia. I would like to see us aquire much needed luxuries from Persia, but I will accept a peaceful settlement when the people of Apolytonia call for it. I am also very much in favor of trade, commerce, and internal development. I would like to see us independently research technology, and not be depended solely on other nations for our educations. I am expansionistic by nature, I yearn to see us fully settle Uber Isle and will vigorously protect our knowledge of that isle from the other nations.

Under my watch, Apolytonia will continue to be expansionistic, and we will continue to actively seek out trades. We will respond with strength to any would-be aggressor, stay out of foreign wars, and take advantage of our diplomatically challanged neighbors.

--Togas

Aro · September 15, 2002, 00:03

Welcome back, Togas!
I must to say this: Nimitz is an excellent candidate, but I voted for Togas. An excellent candidate too, and he’s experienced. In fact, I'm supporting everyone in this term who is running for anything. An excellent term, btw. Aggressive with our enemies, enthusiastic about good ideas, very friendly with us, citizens of Apollitonya, and very, very well succeeded. In this case, I’m a conservative…

GePap · September 15, 2002, 14:49

Simple question: will whoever wins keep the same group of staff members? I mean, no one wants to see anyone else loose jobs in these difficult times, right?

adaMada · September 15, 2002, 16:09

GePap,

Don't know what Nimitz's plans are. Togas posted what he'll do if he returns in the office thread, which includes slots for all the current staff members resources, so...

I don't know Nimitz well, but I will be offering my services as Deputy/Vice Minister again to whichever canidate wins. If he can unseat Togas (considering the excellent job he's done), then he deserves a great deal of respect and awe. Should Togas win, then I have every reason to assume that next term will be just as successful as this one. Either way, you guys aren't getting rid of me quite yet

.

-- adaMada

Nimitz · September 15, 2002, 16:39

If I win I'd most likely be keeping the same people as you look like your doing a good job. I don't get rid of people just because they're from a diff administration.

Panag · September 16, 2002, 08:18

hi ,

Togas has always done a great job , so why should it be different this time , ........

way to go Togas

have a nice day

Nimitz · September 17, 2002, 11:21

Good job Togas, you have a nice victory I hope things go well for your term. But I'll be back next election, so be ready.

Togas · September 17, 2002, 15:03

Thanks Nimitz

I'll be ready for you next term, but I'd really prefer you ran against someone else.

You had a heck of a lot of support in this election.

But even if I don't see you next term in the campaign trail, I'll definately see you on the Jungle Ball field. Your "Pickers" and my "Archers" scored virtually identical points this past week. Looking forward to the match.

--Togas

Nimitz · September 17, 2002, 16:04

Thanx, yup we'll meet on the field soon, I did a good deal of reorganization to get that high score.