Civilization III: Game of the Year

Wittlich · September 12, 2002, 13:14

Ok, I'm confused. What's the difference between Civilization III and Civilization III: Game of the Year (Civ3 GOTY for short)?

Is it just a re-release of the same game but with different packaging, or what?

Level · September 12, 2002, 13:29

It has the latest patch (v1.29f), a keyboard shortcut quck referance card, more maps, and a video of sid.

zeh · September 12, 2002, 13:33

Probably is the same thing, perhaps comes with last patch applied, but the game is exactly the same.

I think they make this to revitalize the sales, that tend to be lower as the game became old.

Just marketing...

Moonsinger · September 12, 2002, 14:13

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Originally posted by Level
It has the latest patch (v1.29f),

That can be downloaded for free.

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a keyboard shortcut quck referance card,

There is nothing to it! Most of us got all those keys memorized by now.

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more maps,

With all the maps and mods out on the internet, aren't that enough?

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and a video of sid.

I have something I want to say about this but decide not to...

Maquiladora · September 12, 2002, 14:40

I remember Half-Life was released again sometime after as a GOTY edition, but that was named GOTY by about 60 magazines worldwide. Seems like an excuse to keep the full price of the game for a little longer.

zeh · September 12, 2002, 14:41

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Originally posted by Moonsinger

That can be downloaded for free.

There is nothing to it! Most of us got all those keys memorized by now.

With all the maps and mods out on the internet, aren't that enough?

I have something I want to say about this but decide not to...

Very good!!!!

Q Classic · September 12, 2002, 14:58

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It has the latest patch (v1.29f), a keyboard shortcut quck referance card, more maps, and a video of sid.

except for the patch, wasn't this kinda most of what was also promised in the LE?

boo infogrames.

Level · September 12, 2002, 15:16

I guess it's a video of the "Making Of CivIII" and part of the strategy guide.

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From the news
The new edition will include the most current version of the game (version 1.29f), three new game maps, a keyboard command card, [the "Making Of CivIII"] video, and an excerpt from Prima`s official strategy guide for the game.

Jaybe · September 12, 2002, 16:30

I had the impression that it was going to be PTW plus version 1.29.

Nubclear · September 12, 2002, 16:34

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Originally posted by Jaybe

I had the impression that it was going to be PTW plus version 1.29.

Oh no! If they bundled a 30 dollar play the world and put it into the 30 dollar GOTY Edition, then that would be a loss of money! It's much better to have the customer pay 30 for GOTY, and then 30 more for PtW.

Firaxis is taking the ways of EA, it seems.

(sorry for the troll)

Alex · September 12, 2002, 16:44

Yes. Marketing, definitely. Considering that PTW will grab some attention not only from fans but also from those who have not bought Civ3 till now, they are trying to spice things up for those people. Remember that PTW will require Civ3 in order to be played.

Sure, you can expect some Civ3 Gold Edition in the future, featuring both Civ3 and PTW.

Damn marketing.

vmxa1 · September 12, 2002, 16:48

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Originally posted by Moonsinger
There is nothing to it! Most of us got all those keys memorized by now.

Watch out, I got jumped on for suggesting that most here do not need the ref card.

Moonsinger · September 12, 2002, 17:03

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Originally posted by vmxa1
Watch out, I got jumped on for suggesting that most here do not need the ref card.

Thanks for the warning!

I guess I made the right decision on not commenting on the video of Sid.

Q Classic · September 12, 2002, 22:37

tassadar, it's not firaxis that's going the way of EA. it's infogrames.

and infogrames is doing it badly.

vmxa1 · September 12, 2002, 23:17

Well companies can either treat customers as valuable or not. If they do not they may discover it was a mistake. Basically it comes down to demand. If they dump on customers and offer items of great interest, people will take the abuse. If they offer less desirable items, people will ignore them at cash register. They do it at their peril. Companies that do not value their customers tend to go out of business.

Jaybe · September 13, 2002, 01:42

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Originally posted by Tassadar5000
(sorry for the troll)

Your on!
GOTY is slated at $40, not $30 (PTW's price)

That is PART of why I was thinking that it was PTW plus 1.29 (and I still am)!
But it might be just the 1.29 UPDATE and PTW.

MarkG · September 13, 2002, 03:09

guys, it's simple
they are re-releasing the game for people who do not have it

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Seems like an excuse to keep the full price of the game for a little longer.

the only reason for a game to keep it's full price is that it continues to sell(see the Sims)

IG are not idiots to consider customers doublidiots(markgian word #5613) that buy a game at full price cause it has the latest patch included...

Barchan · September 13, 2002, 03:10

Well, before people get too worked up about this, keep in mind that this seems like it's intended to replace the "regular" CivIII product currently on the shelves. Thus, it's not intended to be marketed to, or purchased by, people who already own CivIII. It's just a way of "spicing up" the product to sell it to anyone who doesn't already own it. I don't see anything nefarious about it, as it happens all the time for other products anyway.

Imagine Ford marketing the new 2003 Taurus as the "Car of the Year" and proclaiming that this year it'll come with special wheel covers and racing stripes as standard equipment. It's still the same car as the 2002 model, so if you already own one there's no need to run out and buy another. But if your old Dodge K-Car has finally met it's maker, perhaps the sales pitch will convince you to buy a Ford instead of another Dodge.

Anyway, that's how I see the GOTY edition. It's not for anyone reading these forums, but for the folks who haven't yet already picked up a copy of the game.

Having said *that*, PTY and GOTY are kinda confusing right next to each other. But hopefully our intrepid CivIII player looking for his or her MP expansion pack will be a bit smarter than the average bear (or Florida voter...) and not just blindly grab the wrong box.