Madrid More Livable than New York!

Nubclear · October 10, 2002, 17:34

http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/europe...ies/index.html

And for the exact quote...

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44. Madrid, Spain

44. London, England

44. San Francisco, California

49. Seattle, Washington

50. (tie) Singapore

50. Manchester, England

52. (tie) Dublin, Ireland

52. New York, New York

Kramerman · October 10, 2002, 17:37

How did they go about ranking these cities?

Nubclear · October 10, 2002, 17:38

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Originally posted by Kramerman
How did they go about ranking these cities?

read the article. but if your too lazy:

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It looked at 12 factors including housing, education, recreational activities and climate, rating every city on a five-point scale in each category, with five indicating extreme hardship.

Dis · October 10, 2002, 17:40

and the women are hotter. Spanish women

that is the most important consideration

Dis · October 10, 2002, 17:43

Lexington, Kentucky

and my city is not on that list. Of course we are last in every education category. We have the hightest suicide rate, highest smoking rate, hightest teen pregnancy rate, etc.

Kramerman · October 10, 2002, 17:44

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Originally posted by Tassadar5000

read the article. but if your too lazy:

I see... thank you.

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and the women are hotter. Spanish women

that is the most important consideration

New York is filled with super models...

Japher · October 10, 2002, 17:45

way to go Australia, they go a lot of cities in there.

Dis · October 10, 2002, 17:46

I actually find super models ugly. I wouldnt' touch Naomi Campbell with a 10 foot pole. Don't get me started on twiggy. Even when she was young she was ugly

rah · October 10, 2002, 17:48

Heck, most of the people that work there don't want to live there. (and don't)
It's a crime ridden, cesspool with no allys downtown so they put their garbage out in front of the buildings. Real attractive out in front of an expensive resturant. NewYorkers proudly proclaim they love it only because they're stuck living there. What are they supposed to say? "this place sucks".

I'm surprised it ranked as high as it did.

RAH
Waiting for NewYorkers to check in.

Saint Marcus · October 10, 2002, 17:52

19. Amsterdam, Netherlands
28. (tie) Brussels, Belgium

hehe, as always, we're ahead

Dis · October 10, 2002, 17:54

these results are very liberal biased. Who gives a **** about education?

. Hence all the silly Australian and European leaders. Sure they are great places to live, but are they great places to find good paying jobs and make money?

But seriously no greedy capitalist in his right mind would live in Europe. The money to be made is in towns like New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, Seattle, and Las Vegas. Towns like Houston and Atlanta might also be good places to make money as well as south Florida.

Saint Marcus · October 10, 2002, 17:54

look at the top 10 (or 8)

Europe: 7
Australia: 6
Canada: 3

USA: 0
Japan: 0

Paul Hanson · October 10, 2002, 17:54

Damn, Hull isn`t on the list.

Saint Marcus · October 10, 2002, 17:56

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But seriously no greedy capitalist in his right mind would live in Europe. The money to be made is in towns like New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, and Las Vegas.

Monaco beats Las Vegas any day of the week

Dis · October 10, 2002, 18:04

I have never been there, but I still can't see them making as much money as the businesses in Las Vegas. We also have the illegal sex industry where I live. And those whores charge very high prices- not that I'd know... I'm too poor.

Thucydides · October 10, 2002, 18:05

Take it from someone who has lived there 18 years of his live,New York is very livable, if you happen to have money coming out of your bunghole. For the rest of us, I'd suggest avoid moving there if possible.

Saint Marcus · October 10, 2002, 18:10

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I have never been there, but I still can't see them making as much money as the businesses in Las Vegas. We also have the illegal sex industry where I live. And those whores charge very high prices- not that I'd know... I'm too poor.

Monaco is the Las Vegas for the insanely wealthy.

Also, if you want a big and lively sex industry, come to Amsterdam. also rated high than New York btw.

Provost Harrison · October 10, 2002, 18:15

Well cities like London are going to rank very low because of the sheer cost of living there. Hence I am not very keen on the idea of moving to London because I would need to earn a lot of money to live well. Manchester is considerably cheaper and has the employment opportunities as well, but it is the crime that is it's downside (I'm used to the weather, although this side of the country is dryer)

- Groucho - · October 10, 2002, 18:35

Let's see: I'm an ex-patriate Vancouverite who moved to New York.

That's right: from #1 to #55.

Provost Harrison · October 10, 2002, 18:37

Awww, well I currently live in Hull (not ranked). I am looking at moving to Manchester, not London. It is a cost of living thing. I can have a better standard of living in a city that is large enough to effectively have the same facilities. It's all about balancing out what you want...

- Groucho - · October 10, 2002, 18:50

You're right. London and New York are tough to live in without a substantial amount of coin in your pocket. Though if you're a museum buff, both cities are pretty hard to beat. I go to MoMA and the Met a lot and would truly miss them if I moved.

And London has the Tate! Manchester has ... Oasis' elementary school? Not quite the same.

Gangerolf · October 10, 2002, 18:51

Why the focus on Madrid?

Provost Harrison · October 10, 2002, 18:54

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Originally posted by - Groucho -
And London has the Tate! Manchester has ... Oasis' elementary school? Not quite the same.

The Lowry, Museum of Science and Industry, Imperial War Museum North, Urbis...and the Tate Gallery North is only 35 miles away in Liverpool

- Groucho - · October 10, 2002, 18:59

whew - I seem to have guessed right on Oasis.

I've never been to Manchester - what is it like?

Provost Harrison · October 10, 2002, 19:03

Well I couldn't really describe it as I don't live there myself. You'd be best checking a website, which is, erm, use Google or something

- Groucho - · October 10, 2002, 19:05

but you want to move there, right?

Zopperoni · October 10, 2002, 19:08

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Originally posted by Gangerolf
Why the focus on Madrid?

Yea, the fact that Paris is even higher should be more worrying

Go Amsterdam!

Switch · October 10, 2002, 19:08

Bah! Where's Peterborough? Apparently we're a well known city, because of all the hockey players the Pete's offer (guess where Gretzky played his first two semi-professional games).
Not to mention we have one of the best 'Primarily Undergraduate' Universities, Trent U. And we're also the place where a LOT of money and supprt are raised for the Terry Fox Run.

Oh well, at least Canada got a lot of high ranking cities on that list.

Provost Harrison · October 10, 2002, 19:12

Peterborough is in Cambridgeshire...

Switch · October 10, 2002, 19:56

No, not the original Peterborough. Peterborough, Ontario. the home of the Peterborough Pete's.

I guess I should've clarified.....there's also a Ptbo. in New England and Australia.