Yet Another Person Shot... - Page 2

monkspider · October 14, 2002, 23:55

I wonder if this guy will go down in notoriety with the various Mansons and John Wayne Gacys of history? He certainly seems to have psychological issues of some sort with the "I am God" comment. Usually the more "out there" you are, the more fame you seem to accumulate.

Dis · October 14, 2002, 23:57

no, he has no personality.

He will be forgotten in a year or so assuming they get him soon.

snowcrash22 · October 14, 2002, 23:58

Yes, that was a poor choice of words.

Nobody that I have talked to, has stopped doing the everyday things that might place one in harm's way.

But the one thing that does help is to just talk it over and over and over and over. Discussing the mechanics, similar locations ("Go to this gas station, no wooded areas, no easy access to highway"), estimating number of victims or time it will take to catch him(them) helps sooth some paranoia. Some of that didn't quite translate in that las PS statement.

my apologies

Boris Godunov · October 15, 2002, 00:00

Frankly, I suspect the "I am God' thing was not serious--he did it as another way to screw with the minds of possible profilers. He wants people to think he is a psychopath, but he isn't. He's a cold-blooded maniac, but not psychotic.

Dr Strangelove · October 15, 2002, 00:13

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Originally posted by Boris Godunov
Frankly, I suspect the "I am God' thing was not serious--he did it as another way to screw with the minds of possible profilers. He wants people to think he is a psychopath, but he isn't. He's a cold-blooded maniac, but not psychotic.

Yeah, but at least it virtually excludes an Islamic fundamentalist as the shooter. Since "militia" types tend to be Christian fundamentalists it pretty much excludes them too.

Let's get our terminology straight: the word "psychopath" is a layman's term, its use in psychiatry was abandoned more than 30 years ago. It was previously used to describe what we know call the antisocial personality, i.e., the cold-blooded hardened life long criminal who is not a gang member. The term was abandoned when the public adopted it as a generic term for anyone commiting an outragous crime. In some usages it seems to refer to a psychotic criminal, but there isn't a true consensus. Given the outragous nature of this man's crime it could be appropriate to refer to him as a psychopath. You have to admit, even if he isn't truely psychotic, he is one sick bastard.

Shi Huangdi · October 15, 2002, 01:47

I was in Maryland, and it was amazing how widepsread the terror seemed. High School Football games were canceled, as were most community outdoor events. Schoolchildren have not had outside recess for a while now. It seems as though this sniper has been more effective at spreading fear then Bin Laden ever was.

Dis · October 15, 2002, 02:01

I think an earlier poster had an interesting point though. People in gang neighborhoods go through this everyday.

Really the odds of being killed are still so slim.

I certainly hope people learn to adapt. You cannot live your entire life indoors.

Frozzy · October 15, 2002, 02:37

Wouldn't a smart sniper stop shooting when police have arrested someone, to make it seem the person police arrested was shooting?

Bosh · October 15, 2002, 02:42

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Wouldn't a smart sniper stop shooting when police have arrested someone, to make it seem the person police arrested was shooting?

Serial killers traditionally like getting all the credit for their killings, it feeds their egos...

Dis · October 15, 2002, 02:43

I would think he would have left more clues then. maybe contacted the press.

Bosh · October 15, 2002, 02:44

he doesn't need to, he's getting 100% of the credit due to his distinctive modus operandi (sp?) as is...

Urban Ranger · October 15, 2002, 03:11

If he's a serial killer, it means there is something in common with all the victims.

lightblue · October 15, 2002, 07:00

Apart from being outside you mean? Think the cops have looked at that, no relations, no race/sex/age thing. I think he (presumed male I gues) just goes out and gets in a nice position and then shoots the first (or the 5th or tenth) person he can get a clean shot on.

SIDENOTE: Don't want to go into the whole gun regulations issue again, but how the hell are some of the alleged rifles/ammo he is using legal...

NeOmega · October 15, 2002, 07:22

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Originally posted by Dissident

It would be foolish to deny it. The success of movies like Silence of the Lambs and Red Dragon show this. Not to mention the popularity of Charles Manson.

I found this awfully Ironic while watching CNN a week ago... They were talking about The horrible serial killer in a gloomy tone. Next Story, "It seems a cannibal is taking in the top spot at the box office....." all gleefully. Made me chuckle.

A week ago, I began to think to me self.

First victim of middle eastern decent. This told me it more than likely was carried out in a middle eastern neighborhood. I am no major in Criminal psychology, but, usually, I think, a serial killer will start in his own neighborhood.

Reports tonight came up it was an olive skinned man.

This is an unsophisticated terrorist attack.

It has no real backing by al quaeda, it is simply an angry man trying to kepp the terror of Sept. 11th alive.

Also, the I am god statement: It would have been Allah, but that would have given the police a good idea of what they are dealing with. Sniper too smart for that.

I think the "death" card was less important, and the depiction of the fourth Horseman on the card more important.

That, is my prediction. I will be on the McLaughlin group shortly......

Luckily, I am not a police officer giving a press hearing, so I can say such bold predictions.

Wraith · October 15, 2002, 08:49

--"Don't want to go into the whole gun regulations issue again, but how the hell are some of the alleged rifles/ammo he is using legal..."

Unless you're reading reports that I'm not, the sort of weapon he's using is exactly the last sort of thing to ever be targeted by gun control measures. What I'm talking about here is a single-action (probably bolt) long rifle.
What the people here, and in the media, seem to have missed is this simple fact. The same guns that are good for hunting big game are good for sniping...

Unfortunately, our media prefers to make hay about weapons that look scary. Some of us have realized this sort of thing for a long time now, which is why it's perfectly obvoius that the stated goals of the gun control movement are either flat out lies or are being made by ignoramuses.

Wraith
"Who's daddy's favorite weapon, huh? Is it Choo-Choo? Yes, it is! Such a good hand-to-hand weapon you are."
-- Davan ("Something Positive")

Solly · October 15, 2002, 08:56

Why start a gun control debate now? The horse has already bolted.

Adam Smith · October 15, 2002, 11:52

You have no idea how weird this sounds on the radio in the morning

"Montgomery County schools are under Code Blue lockdown.
Howard County schools, all outside activities cancelled.
Prince George's County schools....."

It sounds like closing schools for snow days.

DinoDoc · October 15, 2002, 11:58

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Originally posted by Boris Godunov
Looks to me like he's randomizing his locations, just to throw them off from predicting the vicinity of his next attack.

You can probably blame the leaks detailing that they were going to geographically profile the man for that.

ZoboZeWarrior · October 15, 2002, 12:54

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Originally posted by monkspider
How interesting. Apparently the locations of these victims are forming crosses. This ties into the whole "I am God" thing quite nicely. Apparently we have a real nutjob on our hands.

If he uses the same shemes, the cops will be able to locate the location of the next 3th assassination site (they will have 2 choices).

Boris Godunov · October 15, 2002, 13:04

Details emerged:

Several witnesses saw him in the parking lot. Apparently, he had trouble exited the lot quickly. It seems to be a light-colored Chevy Astro van with a broken taillight and a metal ladder on the roof. The tags were said to be from Maryland.

Bereta_Eder · October 15, 2002, 13:07

i bet he's german. humourless people are prone to become mass killers. caucasian psychosis boris

DanS · October 15, 2002, 13:20

Uh oh. The victim was an FBI analyst.

How many days do y'all give this guy?

Boris Godunov · October 15, 2002, 13:26

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Originally posted by paiktis22
i bet he's german. humourless people are prone to become mass killers. caucasian psychosis boris

Nah, I bet he's a paranoid Greek ultra-nationalist who is hallucinating the targets are Turkish children.

My coworker is convinced it's her ex-husband, whom used to live in MD and is a gun nut. He is also ex-military and French-Greek in background...

Bereta_Eder · October 15, 2002, 13:28

no he's a humourless german like you've proved it

Bereta_Eder · October 15, 2002, 13:30

thats why they killed millions ofpeople, because they had no humour.now they do but their american brethern do not so we see the results of that...

N. Machiavelli · October 15, 2002, 13:31

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How many days do y'all give this guy?

That depends on how much longer he chooses to roll the dice. No matter how 'good' he is, every attempt is a chance to screw up and if he continues for a while longer, they will catch him. If he stops now, or even soon, he stands a fairly good chance at getting away from it. It's not impossible for the bad guy to get away, look at Jack the Ripper, or the Zodiac killer.

Bereta_Eder · October 15, 2002, 13:32

american police are incompetent

must be beacuse they are american germans too whose causasian psychosis have rendered them incapable.

N. Machiavelli · October 15, 2002, 13:33

I sincerely hope you are joking....

Bereta_Eder · October 15, 2002, 13:34

btw germans made jewish little chldren into soaps. greeks never killed small children.

shame on you humourless german boris

DinoDoc · October 15, 2002, 13:35

Should you really be trolling this thread?