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Old October 23, 2002, 20:56   #1
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Hawks: Unite behind the War!
This is a message to all Hawks and Hawk sympathizers. The DIA is threatening to oppose the much need war with France. War has made our nation great and more war will make our nation greater. A war with France will usher in a Golden Age of Apolyton. This is a necessary war and we cannot let the DIA stop it from being prosecuted.

All who oppose war are traitors to the cause of Apolyton! Unite agianst the DIA and peacenic opposition!
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Old October 23, 2002, 21:07   #2
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We havent had a much needed war since the first French war

horse maneur!

end this madness, its time for peace
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Old October 23, 2002, 21:13   #3
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Shouldn't you be updating your avatar instead of trolling, Ninot?
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Old October 23, 2002, 21:18   #4
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Ninot you are the peacnic opposition in this thread. I don't know of ANY Hawks that have infiltrated the DIA threads, at least to the bestof my knowledge

Duddha, as acting Chairman of the Hawks (sitting in for JD) I commend you on your strong will and tenacity in the face of so much adversity. We will defeat the French, that is the fact! They are hopeless against our armies! We must make Joan de Arc suffer for her crimes against our nation. How dare she support assassins who illegally cross our border, harboring weapons meant to take the life out of our leadership! We shall act with such swiftness and vengeance that no nation shall ever think to oppose us, lest their heads be removed from their shoulders.

I shall personally oversee their destruction with my newly constructed SS 1st Brigade, and under the leadership of the great General Aggie we shall crush them to dust!
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Old October 23, 2002, 21:18   #5
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IT WONT LET ME CHANGE IT!!!!

i dont know why, but the button just doesnt work
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Old October 23, 2002, 21:19   #6
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Ninot you are the peacnic opposition in this thread. I don't know of ANY Hawks that have infiltrated the DIA threads, at least to the bestof my knowledge
you apparently never experienced some great work by some old Hawks.
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Old October 23, 2002, 21:22   #7
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JOIN THE SS 1st BRIGADE! Recruitment has begun and this elite fighting force needs able-bodied warriors to fill the ranks! All Hawks welcome!
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Old October 23, 2002, 21:22   #8
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Re: Hawks: Unite behind the War!
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The DIA is threatening to oppose the much need war with France. War has made our nation great and more war will make our nation greater. A war with France will usher in a Golden Age of Apolyton. This is a necessary war and we cannot let the DIA stop it from being prosecuted.

All who oppose war are traitors to the cause of Apolyton! Unite agianst the DIA and peacenic opposition!
HA! All who oppose peace are traitors to every fellow citizen of Apolytonia, senselessly rationalizing their innocent deaths in an unneccesary war!

For the record, I am not a member of DIA. But I do oppose War, and not just with France.

"Necesssary war"? I challenge anyone to explain this necessity.

War has NOT made our nation great. War HAS caused the tragic deaths of many brave citizens, on both sides of each conflict our esteemed War Academy has dragged us into. Apolytonia is great due to its people, it culture, and the holy Banana. The past has shown that Apolytonia is so great that foreign cities spontaneously declare allegiance to us! So what do we need war for? Why send our children to the slaughter, also killing many potential new citizens in the process?

War, for your information, has COST us too much. Too much of our tax lytons goes to training new recruits and maintaining our armies. Lytons that could go towards improving our cities, making life better, or to research promising new technologies.

Your proposed Golden Age is a farce! If we continue to attack and anger the world of humanity - which we should be helping to foster and protect, we run the danger of a much longer Dark Age, with every non-Apolytonian in the world fearing and hating us, rather than admiring us enough to join us of their own volition.
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Old October 23, 2002, 21:23   #9
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you apparently never experienced some great work by some old Hawks.
nope. came in too late for that oldtimer. like i said, to the best of my knowledge, which can only be measured by my length of time here.
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Was this thread for Hawks or not?

dejon - surely your statements of too much spending towardssupporting the military are unfounded and false. Without our military might we would certainly have been crushed centuries ago.
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nope. came in too late for that oldtimer. like i said, to the best of my knowledge, which can only be measured by my length of time here.
Actually, Unortho has done this fairly recently
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If there is a "code of conduct" that non-members should not participate in party threads, I will honour it and post here no longer.

Meshelic - I do not support monies spent on wars of aggression (past or present). Defensive spending is fine.
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Old October 23, 2002, 21:32   #13
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Actually, Unortho has done this fairly recently
Well I may stand corrected but will not retract my previous statement, in the spirit of bullheadedness.
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Old October 23, 2002, 21:34   #14
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Well I may stand corrected but will not retract my previous statement, in the spirit of bullheadedness.
ROFL


Meshelic, you just gained my undying respect
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If there is a "code of conduct" that non-members should not participate in party threads, I will honour it and post here no longer.

Meshelic - I do not support monies spent on wars of aggression (past or present). Defensive spending is fine.
I prefer to stay out of DIA politics, as being a Hawk I have little interest in that. It's a free forum, you can post wherever you want. But I don't invade a thread that says DIA members only, like so many threads have said before.
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IT WONT LET ME CHANGE IT!!!!

i dont know why, but the button just doesnt work
Download the browser called Opera and use it instead. It worked fine for Kass and me. We have matching avatars now...sorta.
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Actually, Unortho has done this fairly recently
True, if it werent for a few old hawks posting in the DIA threads now and then, they would have faded into the abyss. Since the DIA is SOOOO active.
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Which is a nice twist, since Opera doesn't seem to work with the chat.

Okay, that was sorta random and unproductive
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I think we're off subject here a little. Where are all our fellow Hawks?
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They have gone to seek bloodier pastures in this time of peace dictated to us by the DIA cowardly scum who draw their support through lies, deceit, distortion of the truth and the promotion of their own selfish goals of simcity rather than the good of the empire.
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It actually looks like the greatest protester against the war is Ninot, which is not a DIA, and many of those which identify themselves as pragmatic DIA's, are actually for a limited war with france, so the Hawks are actually bursting through an open door...
(translated the phrase from heberw, so sorry if it seems incoherent, you get the point, don't you?)
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I'm against the war because its a pansy war. Declaring a war with the aforknowledge that you have no interest in winning it completely even though you have more than enough resources is bad politics in my opinion, I refuse to be a part of a peacenik miniwar.
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I just wanted to point out for Ghengis' benefit and for other Hawks that when we went to war with Persia, there was little to no support for a conquest war. Several polls were done, the first two indicated that we should take only 2 cities and settle for peace.

But as the war went on and as we continued to be successful, war fever engulfed the nation and we eventually conquered that lush, luxury-filled paradise and a fantastic Wonder.

Keep the faith, Hawks. Support the declaration of war. Once we're in the thick of things, they may change. If we do well, Aggie and I may agree to keep going.

But at a minimum, our nation will be expanded, more resources will be captured, our civilization will enter it's Golden Age and we may have new leaders emerge. How can you not support that?

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I just wanted to point out for Ghengis' benefit and for other Hawks that when we went to war with Persia, there was little to no support for a conquest war. Several polls were done, the first two indicated that we should take only 2 cities and settle for peace.

But as the war went on and as we continued to be successful, war fever engulfed the nation and we eventually conquered that lush, luxury-filled paradise and a fantastic Wonder.

Keep the faith, Hawks. Support the declaration of war. Once we're in the thick of things, they may change. If we do well, Aggie and I may agree to keep going.

But at a minimum, our nation will be expanded, more resources will be captured, our civilization will enter it's Golden Age and we may have new leaders emerge. How can you not support that?

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Togas your words are truly wise. I first and foremost DO NOT support a LIMITED action against the French but completely CONQUEST over their nation. They hate themselves and they hate their miserable existence. We should put them out of their misery.
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HURRAH!

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