What shall be our name (final?) - Page 3

Maquiladora · November 15, 2002, 16:07

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Originally posted by Immortal Wombat
oh yeah?

omg they have a seperate forum for polls in civ3 demo games, have a look at those threads in there, talk about overkill. Is it just me or does civfanatics have alot more younger posters? I suppose Civ3 is the schoolies game of the moment so they had to go all out.

Frozzy · November 24, 2002, 16:04

Okay... so do we actually have a name now???

Martin Gühmann · November 24, 2002, 17:11

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Originally posted by redbull
Okay... so do we actually have a name now???

Well the poll is closed so Apolymuria is in front. It is just one vote but majority is majority. Finally we have to make a decission and the dicission of this poll is Apolymuria. Well Locutus we have our first CTP2 DG news item.

-Martin

Immortal Wombat · November 24, 2002, 18:09

Kill the i

Maquiladora · November 24, 2002, 18:18

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Originally posted by Immortal Wombat
Kill the i

Ive been thinking the same thing.

J Bytheway · November 24, 2002, 18:26

Locutus did say somewhere that he still considered this poll drawn because a non-citizen voted.

centrifuge · November 24, 2002, 18:45

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Originally posted by Immortal Wombat
Kill the i

Start a poll

child of Thor · November 24, 2002, 19:02

I like Lemurs, they are a wonderful animal, as cool as koala's, and as immortal as wombat's!
Oh and the link with CTP2 was nice......Apolymuria..., jeez it's could be about any game hosted on Apolyton

I didn't know a non citizen voted........hmmm maybe Markos?

Apolymura - sounds a bit like polymer?

I think we should let the first President decide - his first act for the people of our good country

(and maybe his last?)

Frozzy · November 24, 2002, 20:21

Perhaps we should toss a coin

Or make a bet on a sporting match...

Okay... if Liverpool beat Accrington Stanley, Apolymura is the name. If Accrington Stanly win, Lemuria is the name.

Sound fair to me

Maquiladora · November 24, 2002, 21:00

If England win the ashes i say we keep the "i"

Frozzy · November 24, 2002, 22:09

Okay... if England make the 5th day in the 3rd Ashes test, we have Lemuria. If England fail to make it, its Apolymuria.

Afterthat, we wait for Reading (my favourite English soccer team, I lived there for 2 years) to play Brighton. If Brighton(Bottom of the table) win, then we keep the i. If Reading (7th, best defence in Division one and unbeaten in 5) win, we remove the i.

That sounds good to me

Gilgamensch · November 25, 2002, 04:24

For all the English:

We change the I into a Y, if England beats Germany in a football-game (talking about the last 8 games; final; semi-final; quarter....)

SO Never ( I think)

Devil of Truth · November 25, 2002, 04:54

* DoT sneaks in a vote for Lumeria when nobody was watching and runs for cover *

Gilgamensch · November 25, 2002, 05:08

Good choice, means that Lemuria has won, as one vote for Apolymuria is 'illegal'.............

(according to Locutus)

Locutus · November 25, 2002, 10:45

I reopened the poll, there's still 3 Citizens who haven't voted yet, so we'll see what happens

Maybe the non-Citizen vote won't have be make the difference (I hope not)...

Daftpanzer · November 25, 2002, 10:56

So we havent even decided on a name yet.. when is this game going to start???

Pedrunn · November 25, 2002, 12:15

Locutus, you could ask MarkG to decide for us. I believe he is the one missing. The other is probably Aias which we dont hear from him in a long time.

Immortal Wombat · November 25, 2002, 18:09

I'm fed up with the whole thing. Delete Kass' vote, change mine to Lemuria, and close the poll.

Pedrunn · November 25, 2002, 18:37

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Originally posted by Immortal Wombat

I'm fed up with the whole thing. Delete Kass' vote, change mine to Lemuria, and close the poll.

We all are!

But hadnt we decide long before that it was Apolymuria!!! Most of the people was used to it. Damn! I am starting to dicuss about this again, Lets make Lemuria then and end this once and for all

Frozzy · November 26, 2002, 01:33

This is fast deterring into a spam thread. I can't be stuffed with this anymore, and quite frankly I couldn't give a stuff about the name.

HuangShang · November 26, 2002, 20:47

yeah hurry up
people are already making threads that needs the name

Gilgamensch · December 3, 2002, 09:09

Looks like the people missing don't want to vote??????

But I must say, I am afraid to restart this poll............

Martin Gühmann · December 4, 2002, 13:15

Well it looks that we have to toss a coin in the end.

-Martin

Immortal Wombat · December 4, 2002, 13:43

Ok, I've tossed a coin, it came up heads. you win.

ískallin · December 4, 2002, 15:23

This sucks how are we ever going to get this thing started if we cant even decide a name in 5 weeks, we will be years to decide goverment position!!!!

H Tower · December 4, 2002, 15:44

i say leave it to the judges to vote, there's only three of them once elections are over.

of course, as a candidate for being a judge, it is entirely possible that my opinion is a bit biased

Locutus · December 4, 2002, 16:25

I was gonna propose a solution but nevermind: look at the 'scoreboard': 14-13

I say we close the poll right now

Locutus · December 4, 2002, 18:35

A bit off-topic but still: it seems solved now, but this situation of a total lockdown might occur again in the future. It would be good to have a way of dealing with it.

In a case where the entire community is divided 50-50, the only proper way out IMHO is to roll a dice (even after several rounds

). But of course, if one of us actually rolled a dice, the rest of us would not be physicially present when this happens, making it impossible to check the dice-roller is not abusing the situation to just go with whatever he likes best. And even if he doesn't do this, others might still accuse him of doing so. So we need a reliable, objective way to pick a random option.

That's why I wrote a little PHP script to do this for us: it picks a random number, using the thread ID as a seed. When you post a poll, the thread ID that your poll will get is very hard to predict, so it's more or less random (for a randomize seed a difference in the seed of 1 is just as unpredictable as a difference of 10,000). The fixed seed ensures that you always get the same result, so there can't be any dispute on the outcome as everyone can double-check it for himself.

I've written and uploaded this script, you can find it here. Simply type in the thread ID of the poll (e.g. 66740 for this thread) and the number of options that can be voted for (e.g. 2 for this thread - Abstain option doesn't count of course) and hit submit. It will return the number of the option that wins the poll if there is a tie and there are no alternative solutions available (e.g. for this poll the winning option is option number 1, which would be Lemuria). For all those weird people who don't start counting at zero as they should (and like I do), I made one the first option rather than zero).

I'm attaching the code of the script here for all to see, so anyone (with at least rudimentary programming skills) can check for himself there's nothing suspicious about it or whatever:

PHP Code:


$seed = $_POST['thread'] + ???;

$range = $_POST['options'];

if ($range < 2) { $range = 2; }    // avoids an error when someone enters crap input



srand($seed);

$randval = rand(1, $range);

echo "$randval";

You can view the source of the HTML code by visiting the link above and selecting Source from the menu View (in IE at least, for other browsers it's very similar).

The only note here is the '???' part: this is actually a number which I will never reveal. Should anyone somehow manage to find a way to predict what the thread ID of a future poll thread will be, this number will make sure it will remain impossible to predict what the winning option of this randomize script is going to be. The only person who knows this number is yours truly, but I'm sure noone will object to the official mod knowing it, especially since even with that number it's practically impossible to predict the outcome...

Immortal Wombat · December 4, 2002, 19:31

Yay!!

LONG LIVE LEMURIA!!

centrifuge · December 4, 2002, 19:35

Hot Damn!!

Close the poll, close the Poll !!!