What victory-conditions should be on?

alva · November 10, 2002, 20:59

D*mned, where is our pollmaster when you need him

ok, I'll do it myself then

If there 's going to be a builders team, I think it would only be just to leave all options on.
(classic ones, not the new ptw ones)

If you dissagree, please say so in the post.

Jon Shafer · November 10, 2002, 21:10

I'm right here.

Where's conquest?

And you don't really need the first option, since if people want all victory conditions on they could just check all the boxes.

GhengisFarb™ · November 10, 2002, 21:11

We should also allow Loot the Princess.

I haven't played with victory tiles, but that might be interesting.

Jon Shafer · November 10, 2002, 21:12

Mass regicide is a party.

alva · November 10, 2002, 21:12

just thought it would be easier to include it

Is conquest necesairy ( almost the same as domination isn't it?)

Jon Shafer · November 10, 2002, 21:13

Your first poll and you botched it twice!

Being complete and thorough in 'official' polling is a good idea. Keeps people from complaining and it's just plain good policy.

alva · November 10, 2002, 21:16

Yeah, I know

, sniff sniff I scr*ewed up my first poll

Jon Shafer · November 10, 2002, 21:17

Maybe I'll give you another chance next year.

'Til then, hit the books!

punkbass2000 · November 10, 2002, 21:17

I vote all. Does it need an explanation?

notyoueither · November 10, 2002, 21:17

I vote all classic options. No new options.

/Edit. Alva will do fine if he posts a new one and asks Mark to lock this one.

CiverDan · November 10, 2002, 21:17

I say leave them all on....no one's is likely to win culturally anyways and diplomatic would just be too chancy for anyone to try it.

Jon Shafer · November 10, 2002, 21:19

While diplomatic victory might be unlikely, I wouldn't rule out cultural. It's doubtful that a team will be able to completely defeat another one (or especially more), making the space and cultural victories much more likely. If one civ gets too powerful, then you'll find the others planning its destruction.

GhengisFarb™ · November 10, 2002, 21:22

This poll should be closed and a new one started listing each and every victory condition and allowing multiple choices.

Any choice receiving 50% or more should be allowed as one of the victory conditions. Those with less than 50% would not be chosen when the game begins.

Jon Shafer · November 10, 2002, 21:53

Agreed. That's how we set up the poll over this issue for the Civ 3 demo game.

notyoueither · November 10, 2002, 21:57

The new options will skew the game.

Regicide causes the AI to turtle. They will not build many cities. Maybe none.

Elimination is for duels. It can suck in those too. Lose a city, lose the game (you are knocked out and all your cities are rubble).

Capture the Princess is for scenarios with VPs.

None of these should be considered.

Jon Shafer · November 10, 2002, 22:01

Quote:

Originally posted by notyoueither
None of these should be considered.

Some (most) people say the same about accelerated production, but there needed to be a poll for that as well, no?

notyoueither · November 10, 2002, 22:11

Go ahead. I will post the same thing in that poll. Please let me know when you plan to begin that. These, along with climate are crucial.

asleepathewheel · November 10, 2002, 22:23

Is there anyway to mod the names of the mass regicide kings?

Would be fun to have kings with the names of the players, would make it more personal

That said, I agree with the notion that none of the new victory options should be in the game.

Spiffor · November 10, 2002, 23:18

All classic victory conditions. This game must be as educational as possible.

notyoueither · November 11, 2002, 01:16

Spiffor,

Elimination? You want some team to dump weeks of effort into this (x 10 to 15 people on the team) then pop a hut and get a city while someone elses warrior is 2 tiles away?

Count me out now if that becomes the case.