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The United States is VERY FAR from becoming a totalitarian state. Its as far as you can get. 12 12.37%
The United States is far from becoming a totalitarian state. 8 8.25%
The United States is as far as can be expected of any modern democracy from becoming a totalitarian state. 20 20.62%
The United States is moderately close to becoming a totalitarian state. 31 31.96%
The United States is VERY CLOSE to becoming a totalitarian state. 10 10.31%
The United States is a totalitarian state, plain and simple. 14 14.43%
Ugh, how many times must I repeat this?! There is no nation-state....we are all under the protection of the Great Banana and therefore this poll is invalid. 2 2.06%
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Old November 18, 2002, 12:30   #61
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Sava?

Who is Sava?

Dino, what are you talking about?
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Or put the village idiot on ignore...
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Jesus Christ Chris, you really are pathetic...

But then again, when you are an ignorant WASP, you probably don't see how our civil liberties are all but non-existent.
Gee... another personal insult by Sava... what a surprise

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But then again, [Chris] when you are an ignorant WASP
Shows what you know.
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A perfect example for the lack of Habeas Corpus is the recent protests in Chicago. People were detained by police during the protests for 72 hours and then released. They were not charged with any crime. They were not arrested. So go stop with your quoting of the constitution; wake the f**k up... American big business controls this country; Republicans and Democrats alike are their puppets.


Someone has to figure out what habeus corpus means. The fact that they were released means that habeus corpus was not violated. However those people do have a claim under the False Imprisionment torts claim.
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Imran, I posted what it actually means, if anyone was really interested.
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Oh, I know.... I read it .

But it seems Sava did not! Like that was a shock.
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The loss of freedoms is a serious issue, it's a shame so many people try to use scare tactics and mistruths whenever it comes to protecting ourselves.

Nobody wants another 9/11, yet they fail to see that it might have been prevented if we had been more vigilant.
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Gee... another personal insult by Sava... what a surprise

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It is looking as a personal insult - but I would never consider it so, now I have read the whole post.

Guess you should have your tricker tweakened a little Ming. It's too loose.
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