"The Patch"

Inverse Icarus · November 19, 2002, 22:54

if "The Patch", the one that you know, is supposed to make the game WORK, isn't out by the time we want to start (12/1 supposedly), should we wait for it?

notyoueither · November 19, 2002, 22:59

PBEM works now.

alva · November 19, 2002, 22:59

I don't think it addresses any SP issues(and thus PBEM) AFAIK, so I don't see a need for it.
Besides, we don't really know when they will release it, If they announce, it will be realeased 2/12 or even 5/12

, I don't mind waiting though.

asleepathewheel · November 19, 2002, 23:00

no

who knows how long its going to take for the patch to come? we could be waiting for weeks.

Meshelic · November 19, 2002, 23:07

NO

lets not delay this.

GhengisFarb™ · November 19, 2002, 23:42

Start now.

We can always patch it later.

alva · November 20, 2002, 00:34

AFAIK if we start the game on 1.04, we end it on 1.04

That's how I understood it. Go see Trip about it, if you don't like it

ZargonX · November 20, 2002, 00:49

No. As it has been said, we have no idea how long it may actually be until we have the patch in our hands. And, as it doesn't effect PBEM (so far as we know), it's not vital.

Arnelos · November 20, 2002, 02:24

Well, anything other than hotseat and PBEM is completely hosed under 1.04, but I'd be ok with STARTING with v1.04 and then upgraded as soon as the patch comes out (assuming it doesn't come out before we start, making this entire discussion moot).

Spiffor · November 20, 2002, 03:41

In the SP DemoGame, we didn't upgrade because saved games were reacting strangely when patched (so spoke the Firaxians).
I say we don't wait, but we upgrade if the patch doesn't affect any significantly the pre-patch saves.

Arnelos · November 20, 2002, 03:53

The problem with NOT patching is, and trust me here, the game is HOSED when it comes to playing over the Internet and it's extremely laggy EVEN ON A LAN (I've played several games on a LAN with my friend... the lags frickin' annoying!). That said, we'll mostly be doing PBEM rather than turnchats or anything like that, so maybe it won't be a problem...

FrustratedPoet · November 20, 2002, 04:08

Quote:

Originally posted by Spiffor
In the SP DemoGame, we didn't upgrade because saved games were reacting strangely when patched (so spoke the Firaxians).
I say we don't wait, but we upgrade if the patch doesn't affect any significantly the pre-patch saves.

you won't have a choice to whether to download the patch or not when it comes out.
1.04 included an auto-patching feature when connecting to GameSpy. Anyone who tries to play any MP through GameSpy after the patch's release will have to download it.

asking people not to play other MP matches (especially if it actually works

) just because we wish to maintain the integrity of the saves is a bit too demanding.

I understand why you might want to wait, but I fear it isn't practical for this game.

alva · November 20, 2002, 05:23

There is no problem if you install civ&ptw twice, and keep one at 1.04

Spiffor · November 20, 2002, 05:33

If you're playing the SP Demogame as well, you'll end up having 3 installs of Civ+PtW

Donegeal · November 20, 2002, 09:33

Play with the 1.04f patch and when ever there is a new one, upgrade. We are all here frequently enough to be able to keep up with the patches.

GhengisFarb™ · November 20, 2002, 09:40

Quote:

Originally posted by Spiffor
If you're playing the SP Demogame as well, you'll end up having 3 installs of Civ+PtW

Actually, four.

The out of date Civ3 the Demo game uses, Civ3 1.29 to support PTW, PTW, and eventually the patched PTW.

BigFurryMonster · November 20, 2002, 10:03

1.04 is already a patch?! Or do you mean another patch?? Be specific!

Inverse Icarus · November 20, 2002, 12:56

1.04 was a patch released the day of PTW's release. there is goign to be ANOTHER patch to make the game WORK somtime in the future (no date as of yet)

FrustratedPoet · November 20, 2002, 13:42

Uber: That is perhaps the best avatar I've ever seen.

Panag · November 21, 2002, 07:21

hi ,

we should wait at all costs

have a nice day

Inverse Icarus · November 21, 2002, 10:54

Quote:

Originally posted by FrustratedPoet
Uber: That is perhaps the best avatar I've ever seen.

thats GF's mastery of the modeling and my lame ass photoshopping for the, erm, tatoo

Jon Shafer · November 21, 2002, 17:23

I already have two versions of Civ 3 on my computer and PTW. I don't want to have to install another version of PTW (my hard drive ain't the biggest thing in the world... even I can use up 30 gigs). Let's wait.

alva · November 22, 2002, 01:33

If we are gonna wait for this one, we could aswell wait for the next one too.
Your still gonna have the same problem in let's say 3 or 4 months.
I strongly doubt this game will be over by then

Randolph · November 22, 2002, 09:09

I think starting on time is the most important thing.

Firaxis said in on of their chats that you can upgrade a game in progress to a new patch as long as everyone upgrades. Of course we have yet to find out how true that is... but none the less let's get on with it.

GhengisFarb™ · November 22, 2002, 11:26

I can' t believe more people would rather wait until NEXT YEAR (THAT'S SIX MONTHS, PEOPLE) to start playing this game over starting on Dec 1.

There is no way I'm waiting that long, I'll just find a game somewhere else.