26 hours 30 minutes ... Holy $#|*

monkeyman · November 20, 2002, 18:47

Ok, So there's a new 'feature' in ptw that some may have noticed,
when you finish a game, it tells you how much time you've used. So my first PTW game (std world size, random everything, Monarch) ends (with my victory by domination) and this stat comes up 26hours and change!!!!

So the question is, how do I get a satisfying game without all that time. i figure i spent most of it moving artillary, cavalry and tanks around. How much fun is that?

So, what settings, modifications to rules etc etc to shorten the overall gametime without impacting strategic play?

BTW, I like having at least 8 civs for the chaos effect, so thats my one rule, at least 8 civs...

regards

--mm

CrONoS · November 20, 2002, 18:54

play on small or normal maps with no island...
Or Continent can be fun... with continent this can take like 8-9 hours even less for me. To be beat or beat the computer..in Monarch

asleepathewheel · November 20, 2002, 19:11

accelerated production

Carver · November 20, 2002, 21:05

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Originally posted by monkeyman
So the question is, how do I get a satisfying game without all that time. i figure i spent most of it moving artillary, cavalry and tanks around. How much fun is

When you're imagining all the damage you're about to do with those units it can be quite fun.

I love that clock though. 17h, 48m, 8s for my first game. It helps you understand the opportunity cost of an addiction like Civ.

Sheik · November 20, 2002, 21:23

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accelerated production

I love this feature and it is key to shortening the game time.

I dont want to shorten my games to much though because the fun of civ is taking the time to command an entire empire and get things right.

Baggio · November 20, 2002, 23:25

Thats fast! By my standards anyway! hahah

I like to dominate the entire planet and leave the each AI civ with 2-3 cities and laugh as they try to send settlers out to expand out of my cities which surround them....they are land locked by the way.

Before attacking their last city, whereever it is, I would give them 2-3 cities as a tribute and exchange for peace. THese citise would be surrounded by my cities and there is no way for them to expand or attack their way out as they are too weakkkkk......

Then I would declare war and wipe out their last city leaving them imprisoned in the few cities I have given them.

I think of it as collecting species or civs......like some demented alien race......bwaaahahhaha....

By trying to achieve these goals I average more than 100 hours a game on giant maps.....

Jaybe · November 20, 2002, 23:57

Just finished by 1st PTW game, and I clocked in at 81 hours on a large, large-continent map. But I don't go in for all that governor/automation stuff. If I don't micromanage it, it doesn't get done the way I want it.

EDIT: typo.

vmxa1 · November 21, 2002, 03:19

I wonder how the time is counted. I mean I sometimes leave the game up sitting there waiting for my next move while leave the house.

player1 · November 21, 2002, 05:33

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So the question is, how do I get a satisfying game without all that time. i figure i spent most of it moving artillary, cavalry and tanks around. How much fun is that?

Use "magical" shortcuts callled "J" annd "Shift-J".
And use Rally point ability.

The Pioneer · November 21, 2002, 05:38

26 hours would not be a lot for me but I'll be on the lookout to see how much time I spent on my games

. I usually take my time with the game and that probably means lots of hours...

So long...

Alex · November 21, 2002, 06:24

Did you notice those 26 hours passing by? If you did not, then you were having fun...

But small or standard maps, no islands, and accelerated production, plus some automation (governors in some places, workers automated, rally points) might do the trick for you.

I prefer loooong and detailed games, but YMMV.

Panag · November 21, 2002, 07:52

hi ,

there should be an option to turn the time table on / off

have a nice day

asleepathewheel · November 21, 2002, 11:47

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Originally posted by panag
hi ,

there should be an option to turn the time table on / off

have a nice day

Why should there be an option to turn this off? Does it bother you to know how much time you spend playing a game?

vmxa1 · November 21, 2002, 14:50

Really why would one need to turn it off?

Panag · November 21, 2002, 14:50

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Originally posted by asleepathewheel

Why should there be an option to turn this off? Does it bother you to know how much time you spend playing a game?

hi ,

no , but it would make some people happy , ......

and its one of those things that are not really needed , there is other stuff that is far more important then a timer , .......

have a nice day

ixnay · November 21, 2002, 15:56

Well, it's already there, and there is other stuff that is far more important than putting in an option to turn it off.

monkeyman · November 22, 2002, 09:45

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Originally posted by Alexnm
Did you notice those 26 hours passing by? If you did not, then you were having fun...

But small or standard maps, no islands, and accelerated production, plus some automation (governors in some places, workers automated, rally points) might do the trick for you.

I prefer loooong and detailed games, but YMMV.

This is the problem, while I'm moving all the military units about, and the bombardment takes soo long, it's not fun... Maybe I should turn off the animation...

But I do like the strategic planning part, but not so much the city managing, stupid stuff like when your fp city doesn't have enough tiles to work because the neighboring cities are using some of the good ones...

The other thing I was mulling, and am now putting into a mod is to make the military units 2x as expensive with 2x the hit points. I don't know what this will do to the AI but I'll see. I've also thought about making armies available from the get-go, but I haven't done it yet...

--mm

Jaybe · November 22, 2002, 13:55

Yes, turning off animations is good.
In warfare, if you are concerned, turn battle animations back on so you can keep track of what the enemy does just before you end each turn.

Falconius · November 22, 2002, 19:05

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Originally posted by monkeyman
i figure i spent most of it moving artillary, cavalry and tanks around. How much fun is that?

That's pretty much the game, isn't it?

If you are not enjoying it, turn the computer off, wash the dishes, take out the garbage, do the laundry, scrub out the tub AND the toilet, change the cat litter, etc. You know: REAL LIFE!

After that, moving your units will seem a lot more fun!

Jaybe · November 22, 2002, 19:22

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Originally posted by Falconius
That's pretty much the game, isn't it?

...

Well, there's always peacetime: cleaning pollution, correcting the governors' production choices, confirming city worker allocations and ending the turn.

monkeyman · November 22, 2002, 19:35

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Originally posted by Jaybe

Well, there's always peacetime: cleaning pollution, correcting the governors' production choices, confirming city worker allocations and ending the turn.

Well, I was going to add this as well, but I didn't want to rant...

But I know there's a fun game in there somewhere...

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Originally posted by Falconius

If you are not enjoying it, turn the computer off, wash the dishes, take out the garbage, do the laundry, scrub out the tub AND the toilet, change the cat litter, etc. You know: REAL LIFE!

Now how much fun is That ?

--mm

Zero · November 23, 2002, 00:44

some people enjoy while doing their chores. I for one am not one of them.

Panag · November 23, 2002, 14:34

hi ,

thats the benefit of more options in this game , one can do this , one can do that , .....so put more options in

have a nice day

candybo · November 23, 2002, 16:42

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Originally posted by vmxa1
I wonder how the time is counted. I mean I sometimes leave the game up sitting there waiting for my next move while leave the house.

Ditto. I'm one of those "play a couple turns, do laundry

types".

Panag · November 24, 2002, 08:07

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Originally posted by candybo

Ditto. I'm one of those "play a couple turns, do laundry

types".

hi ,

, it goes fast on this side , ......

, do laudry and ask you spouse for a new faster comp in return , .......

this way you can use the excuse "no time , the next turn is here" , ....

have a nice day