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Old November 20, 2002, 21:09   #1
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Time to get organized: Need people to fill staff positions
The court has made it's ruling:
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The Court has made a decision.

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The Court has declared E_T the new Domestic Minister.

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A post explaining the process taken and the reason for E_T being declared the winner will be made shortly in the topped Court thread.

Thank You
I NEED people to fill the following positions:
Vice Domestic Minister (VDM)
Deputy Domestic Minister for Public Works (DDM for PW)
Deputy Domestic Minister for City Planning (DDM for CP)
Regional Administrators for 9 Provences.

I'm looking to fill the VDM & DDM for PW positions first. The others will follow as the first two are filled.

I'll have the specifics for each position soon, RL calls. You can find them in the
this post from the campain thread.

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The Domestic Ministry: the DM
My main Job:

Domestic Minister (DM):
1) To oversee the whole of the Domestic Ministry.

2) To institute Policies for City Growth & Expansion.

3) To submit budget proposals to the President and Senate, for any rushes that need to be performed during gameplay.

4) To interface with the SMC about any Mil Units Needs that he might require and what the DM might need in the way of defenses or movement facilities (i.e. Uber Island Ferry) to facilitate any possible needs. This might also require the two of us to work out a mutual budget timeline, for timing of Rushes and Mil Unit Upgrades, within a possible limited budget. To provide the SMC with any PW needs in time of War. To help suggest what cities might be best to have a possible draft, so as not to overburden (with Unhappiness) any particular city with any Drafts.

5) To interface with the FAM, for any budget timings and resource/luxury needs that he might require from me. I might also request from him to obtain some future technology, that will have impact on any current building programs.
NOTE: Timing of Rushes are very important. I could submit a flat budget, but because of rush costs decreasing over time and monetary constraints, I would have to pick and choose what gets rushed and when. Interfacing with the other branches about their needs allows me to better schedule any Rushes and to try to keep the overall cost down. I have done this successfully in the past with the current FAM & SMC, to our mutual benefits.

6) To Interface with the Senate about any Issues that need to be addressed about the status and operation of the office. To help provide for their wishes, in as timely a manner that can be met. To provide Reports to them on what is happening, throughout the nation.

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Vice Domestic Minister (VDM):
Vice Domestic Minister (VDM):
1) To represent me in gameplay if I'm not able to attend. My orders would be followed for current builds and most WF assignments, except in case of an emergency or funds not available for some rush or other. To call a halt to gameplay, if a Dire or Extreme Emergency has occurred (i.e. 3 Civs attacking at once and/or several cities are about to fall). The Queues could be changed only if it would have something else available during that Gameplay or in succeeding ones (changed to something that is built that gameplay or the next couple of turns afterwards). I micromanage my builds and some of the WF assignments might seem cryptic, but I'm looking at things over the whole TOC for a build, but I do miss things too.

2) To help with the Interfacing Process with the other Ministers & Senate, concerning budgets and needs.

3) To help organize polls and discussions for things like City names, locations and any other Issues that I might request to have addressed.

4) To complete and or delegate the CP/PW orders compilation, If I'm unavailable to compile them for any turnchat (or one of the other Deputies). If this occurs, the VDM would try you keep the Queues the way that they are and not add things to them, unless they follow the general queues of other cities or are based on any special circumstances. Mostly to request budgets for Needed and Throughput Rushes. This would NOT allow the VDM to change things around WHOLESALE, but would allow him to change things, as the situations require.

5) to help double check the orders for any glaring errors or to help resolve any during Gameplay.

6) To help delegate the RA positions to anyone whom the VDM & DM feels is qualified and interested.

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Deputy Domestic Minister for Public Works (DDM for PW):
Deputy Domestic Minister for Public Works (DDM for PW):

1) To compile & submit orders for the PW movements and infrastructure builds. To this, I would have some specific requests for Infrastructure but mostly general guidelines that I would like all of the cities to conform to, the implementation would be up to the DDM for PW to complete.

2) That he would try to inform me, in a timely manner, of any infrastructure improvements that will become available during a Gameplay, that way they can possibly be integrated into the CP orders.

3) To post such information and PW requests via the Term VI Contractors Thread or the particular Gameplay orders threads. I don’t like to use PM’s except for personal issues. This also insures that the VDM and DDM for CP is also informed and aware of any information that would be needed.

4) To release whatever PW Units (i.e. Workers) to the SMC, to help him facilitate War Time Logistics.


General guildlines & Plans for PW:

1) Maintain 3-4 Worker stacks for Jungle cutting and subsequent roads of the freshly cut tiles, within a single turns time. The Priorities will be Riverside tiles first, with the rest to follow, depending on some of the needs of the Cities.

2) Have other stacks for building of Mines & Irrigation within a single turn, if possible.

3) To irrigate the cities and mine the rest to have a food surplus of 4 to 6 per city (if possible), in even numbers if possible. This will allow any possible change to specialist in case of War Weariness without having the city starve. Also allows future Specialist when a City grows to a point that WLKD might be lost, again with out having starvation.
NOTE: Growth gets us added trade and more tiles that can be worked, but also, increased shield production gets us everything else.

4) To finish building roads in all of our territories, in case of a Future Resource or the possibility of one moving.


General Railroad Plans:
1) Connect the cities in the fastest time available, going through the path of least resistance but trying to increase city shield production as much as possible. This will allow any Military or Worker Unit to move rapidly from one area to another in the least amount of time. This will be done while Jungle clearing is still ongoing.

2) After that is mostly completed, start RR’ing the other tiles, with the emphases on Shield production first and then food surpluses. This will depend on each individual city.

3) Work on Hills and mountains towards the end, depending on the Individual City needs.

4) To change any Irrigation to Mining to maintain the 4 to 6 food surplus limits.
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Deputy Domestic Minister for City Planning (DDM for CP):
Deputy Domestic Minister for City Planning (DDM for CP):
1) To compile city build orders and Workforce Assignments to facilitate the overall build plan.

2) To Request PW improvements for the cities.

3) To maintain City growth, corruption and happiness to increase overall production & Trade output.


This position seems to be fairly simple, but it's the hardest of all.

I want someone who is dedicated to work this job. I want someone who will look at a build for a city, not for just the next 5 turns but for the whole time of compleation (and beyond). They must be able to take the following into account:

1) Population Increaces and the effects to production output and TOC.

2) Corruption & Waste effects when changing WF assignments to maximixe Shields, Trade & Food Surplus.

3) Working items into the Queues that will take into account the production capacity of a city. You don't want to build 80 Shield Cavalry in a city that only produces 5 shields per turn, you build something cheaper, if possible.

4) To be able to change WF assignments to minimize TOC & unused sheilds.
EXAMPLE: If a city (has 5 food left to grow) produces (after waste): 11 with WF config A (3 surplus food); 12 with WF config B (2 surplus food); 14 with WF config C (1 surplus food) and 15 with config D (after its grown by an additional population) and it's building a 100 sheild item, what would be the best settings at different times, especially if the population increases during the build, to waste the least amount of sheilds on the last turn of the build?

I want someone who would be able to get that built in 7 turns with configurations of C-C-C-C-C-D-D. This was a fairly easy example. And to do that in 47+ cities.

Not so easy to do, thus the dedication to the challenge.

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hi ,

well sounds good , if you need help , say so

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Panag, I think it's obvious that this is what I need, help.

To everyone, I CANNOT do this job alone, nor will I attempt to. Aggie can kind of direct PW for the now, but we need to have a person at the job as a full time position.

But if there aren't people to fill these positions, then this game might very well come to a screaching halt.

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Panag, I think it's obvious that this is what I need, help.

To everyone, I CANNOT do this job alone, nor will I attempt to. Aggie can kind of direct PW for the now, but we need to have a person at the job as a full time position.

But if there aren't people to fill these positions, then this game might very well come to a screaching halt.

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hi ,

huh , is there no-one else who is willing to help

come-on guys and girls , this guy has great plans , make sure he can finish them

Eli , Siro , where are you when you are the most needed , .....

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Humm.. I've wanted a deputy position here for a while, but now I have responsibilities at the PtW game so I don't have time. If this were last term I would have been all over it. Sorry.

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It's time for my lame excuse.
On second thought, skip the excuse. I'll just sum up by saying I'd LOVE to take a more active role in the game but I cannot right now due to RL. However, if everything goes well I should be able to make time to join an office in January. Until then, I can only help with spirit...
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Sorry, I'm in exile.

Gosh, don't we just have TONS of helpful people?

Question, if I was to sue the Court for defamation of character, who would be the judge and justices over that?
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Sorry E_T, but I don't have the skill to take on any of these jobs -- I simply suck at Domestic affairs, which I why I was in the Foreign Office for so long .

Hope you get more help soon, though -- this doesn't look encouraging.

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I believe you would have to file the case against one justice and that justice would not be able to hear the case. The others would hear the case brought against the single justice you are suing. I do not think you can sue the entire Court, just an individual.

And to file a case in court you must be a citizen of the Democracy Game.
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People, lets keep this to the discussion at hand.

Now, to everybody who has responded so far, thanks.

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E_T,

I think WhiteBandit was interested in coming back to the DG. PM him.
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I think WhiteBandit was interested in coming back to the DG. PM him.
Just did, thanks

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Hmm, I'm about to head off for school, but if the decision can wait, I will let everyone know this evening. I do want to come back into the game, but RL is still a problem as school is going to come to an end soon with finals.

Let me get back from school this evening and access my situation and I will let everyone know. Thanks!
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If you think you need to, WB, take your time. We don't need you to take on something and have to let it slide because of RL issues half way through the term.

Update for everyboody: Currently, the PW stuff is being done by Aggie during the turns. He'll be following the guildlines that are stated above. I have not given him any specific requests at this time, I'd rather that be for the next set of orders.

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Have to pass.
While I thank you for considering me, I will have to pass on the opportunity at this time. School has kicked my butt lately and it's only going to get worse in this next month. My last day of finals is the 21st or so of December, so depending on what my holiday plans are like, I might be able to take a more active role then (providing we haven't beat the game already).

Fell free to pm me if any needs or questions arise!

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Thanks anyways.

Well, people? Are we to just let this game fall to rot because a few positions can't be filled?

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I'm not active on the regular C3DG forums enough-I have shifted from 100% C3DG to 60%C3PtWDG and 40%C3DG (I guess you either need at least 70%C3DG or no life at all to be able to goodly do a position)

besides, I'd probably run whatever job I would have into the ground.

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