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View Poll Results: Should we allow the Demogyptica Team in ?
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November 22, 2002, 11:45
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Should we allow the Demogyptica Team in ?
As you know it, a new team wants to participate in the PtW Democracy Game. The Demogyptica Team is led by Borc, has at least 16 members, and is willing to play the game.
In normal cases, the team should be accepted, since it has more than 5 people in it. However, they do not come from Apolyton, but from a German forum (civ3.de IIRC), and some may disagree them entering the Apolyton PtW Democracy Game.
Question is : Should we allow the Demogyptica Team in ?
Answers :
YES
NO
(if you want to abstain, simply do not vote)
The poll will close in 3 days.
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November 22, 2002, 11:50
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Deity
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Yes with the following conditions:
The game is played based at Apolyton.
They become members of Apolyton and become a subgroup like the Finns.
At that point there is no need to object because they are members like the rest of us and have the right to a team.
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November 22, 2002, 11:52
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Warlord
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thanks for the poll. if you need more info about us please feel free to message me! good luck.
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November 22, 2002, 11:56
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Warlord
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i am sure many of us, especially the government will have accounts here... but dont forget we have our own forums for a long time and we never will close them... we have our history 
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November 22, 2002, 12:04
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Emperor
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If they all register and become members like everyone else, why not?
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November 22, 2002, 12:09
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As long as they all register here and get things set up before we start, sure.
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November 22, 2002, 12:30
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We demand that they pay us reperations for ...
We also want a public apology from the Germans for ...
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November 22, 2002, 12:39
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Yes, if their group is based on Apolyton. And Uber, I gladly will publicly apologize for ... after you publicly apologized for ... . Are we now done with this BS? 
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November 22, 2002, 13:26
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Deity
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Sure, fine by me.
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November 22, 2002, 13:29
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Fine by me... on the condition that they become a real 'poly team as well, complete with icons and stuff like that. It's already confusing that the RPGers don't have an icon yet (I know, I'm easily confused )
DeepO
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November 22, 2002, 13:29
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As above, if they join poly........
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November 22, 2002, 13:31
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Prince
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As long as they follow the same conditions that all the other teams do (as explained in above posts). No different treatment.
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November 22, 2002, 14:00
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Why not?
oder Warum nicht ? 
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November 22, 2002, 14:17
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King
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if we are allowing any new teams beyond 5 (and we are, it looks like), I don't see why we shouldn't let them in too
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November 22, 2002, 15:30
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Deity
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They can have their own forum here, but there is no way to make them use it.
It might be a good idea for them to post a join thread here though. Have 5 of their number post. Put the name, icon, and leader in Mark's thread. Just to make it official.
It would also be good if their leader and diplomats maintain Poly accounts for trading PMs and allowing other teams to email them.
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November 22, 2002, 15:40
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Originally posted by Sir Ralph
Yes, if their group is based on Apolyton. And Uber, I gladly will publicly apologize for ... after you publicly apologized for ... . Are we now done with this BS?
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oh come on ralph  nothing wrong with trash talking the germans 
go ahead and call me a modern day imperialist or something.
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November 22, 2002, 16:26
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Prince
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Just some thoughts..
Currently there are 5 teams. This new one will make six. The other team that Jon Miller will make seven teams.
We will have to either go to Deity or emperor to make the AI competitive or we will have to go to a large world with 10 civs(thus 3 AIs).
Or just play as-is and let the civs next to the single AI get fat with the spoils off the singular AI punching bag.
Mss
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November 22, 2002, 16:34
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MSS :
There has been a debate on this issue. The general consensus seems to remove the AI altogether now that there are more teams.
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November 22, 2002, 16:44
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Has anyone asked the g0dZ about this????
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November 22, 2002, 17:57
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If their players meet the condition to join Apolyton (as suggested by many), and their leader is watching for messages here, there should be no problem. One Apolyton team is as good as the other. As far as they told me, they don't even need a private forum, because they already have one.
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November 22, 2002, 18:37
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Firaxis Games Programmer/Designer
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Ja wohl.
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November 22, 2002, 19:18
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Prince
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I am considering “No,” or “Nein”  not because I don’t want them to join in, but because we don’t know if the PTW game is going to work between Apolytonians. Don’t we want to iron out the bugs first? But then again, they may not want to wait until next year. What are the arguments?
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November 22, 2002, 19:48
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Firaxis Games Programmer/Designer
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We should treat this as seriously as any other demo game that we're involved in. Personally, I don't like all of this talk about "this is just a training game, in a few months we'll drop it for the multi-team game once we're ready and CFC can join". This game is for fun, it's not just a training excersize. 
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November 22, 2002, 21:06
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I voted yes, but they have to teach us Warrior Code and Bronze Working right away!!
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November 22, 2002, 23:33
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Yes, but only if they join and are part of their own team. If they aren't, what's to prevent them from slipping a spy amongst our mist.
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November 23, 2002, 00:12
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King
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They are free to join as long as they register to become a poly member IMO. Hey I have both poly and CFC acct, why doesnt anyone object?
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November 23, 2002, 02:00
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Sure, why not? The more the merrier. (Until we reach 8, that is.)
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November 23, 2002, 05:21
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Warlord
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some info: the most of us (those who speak english) will register here... others not. i will open a demogyptica thread here soon where our people will say hello... we will have at least an active ambassador here...
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November 23, 2002, 05:24
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Deity
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Welcome to our Nightmare... 
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November 23, 2002, 06:27
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Yea, welcome.
And another 1970'er settler account gets burnt soon  . How many are left?
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