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Old November 28, 2002, 20:02   #31
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I find that very difficult to read, why would you want the year first? Isn't knowing the date more relevant? Today in that format is 021129!! how do you say that out loud? confusing as hell.
It's logical in that it follows the same system used by every other measurement, ie. has the largest unit first, and the fastest incrementing unit last.

How to say it out loud: nolltvå elva tjunie.
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Old November 28, 2002, 20:43   #32
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It's logical in that it follows the same system used by every other measurement, ie. has the largest unit first, and the fastest incrementing unit last.
logical schmogical. most people are aware of what year it is and are more interested in knowing the day of the month, so day-month-year makes more sense (at least to me it does)


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How to say it out loud: nolltvå elva tjunie.
well but how would I know if that's a date or your frickin phone number?
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Old November 28, 2002, 20:54   #33
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Most people are interested in the day, as the month changes very rarely. It is a worry if you don't realize what month it is.
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Old November 28, 2002, 21:10   #34
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well but how would I know if that's a date or your frickin phone number?
You normally get the phone number whilst on a date.
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Old November 28, 2002, 21:23   #35
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Most people are interested in the day, as the month changes very rarely. It is a worry if you don't realize what month it is.
very rarely? it changes every 30 days or so!

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You normally get the phone number whilst on a date.

true, true
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Most people are interested in the day, as the month changes very rarely. It is a worry if you don't realize what month it is.
But it's still easy to spot.

If it's in the format of:
November 28, 2002.
It's the first number.

If it's in the MM-DD-YY format, then it's the middle number between the characters.
Same with MM/DD/YY.

The year should go at the back because most of the time I don't even use it. Optional stuff should be at the end so it can be not included and not screw anything up.

The month should go first, since in civilized countries it's pronounced "November 28th" and not "28 November".
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Optional stuff should go at the beginning, like initial zeroes.
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What about the extra precision of decimal places? They go at the end.

I always like reading from the same spot all the time. The first will always be the month, the second will always be the day, and if there's a third it's the year. woee.
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Old November 29, 2002, 16:14   #39
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What about the extra precision of decimal places? They go at the end.
Are you saying years are more precise than months and months more precise than days?
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Old November 29, 2002, 18:54   #40
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Well I am going to use the 29th November 2002 format, I find it easier to follow...
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That format screws the layout of the screen.
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Are you saying years are more precise than months and months more precise than days?
No, I'm saying that a lot of time the extra decimals are left off.

IE: 1.00.

We can leave it off sometimes to get 1.

In dates, we have 11-29-02.

We can leave it off and get 11-29.

It's consistent.

This way we always start at the same place, the last bit is just optional.
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So where do you put the time of day?
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I seldom put the date and time together.

Probably on different lines.
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A good feauture Markos

Though luckily, the defaults were already the way I liked them.
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Old November 30, 2002, 01:19   #47
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That format screws the layout of the screen.
Which is why I would rather have 29-Nov-02 or Nov 29 2002 as options.
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The month should go first, since in civilized countries it's pronounced "November 28th" and not "28 November".
No, in Australia we say either.
November 28th or 28th November. And we have the advantage of grouping all the optional bits of data at the end, so if someone asks the date, we can say the 28th, rather than the longer 28th of November, 2002.
Much better than putting the most important, non-optional part of the date in the middle.
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A good feauture Markos

Though luckily, the defaults were already the way I liked them.
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A much better format (and incidentally the one I use) is 29/11-02 which is easily read as 29th of november 2002.

No, it's easily read as 29 divided by 11 minus 2. It's also easily read as 2029, November 2nd.
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No, in Australia we say either.
November 28th or 28th November.
Would it kill you guys to be consistent?

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And we have the advantage of grouping all the optional bits of data at the end, so if someone asks the date, we can say the 28th, rather than the longer 28th of November, 2002.
And if someone asks the month, you say November.
And if someone asks the year, you say 2002.

Very seldom will someone actually just write "28th" when dating a paper, it'll at the very least be "November 28th".
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Would it kill you guys to be consistent?
This coming from an inconsistent-date-ordering advocate?
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Oh come on Mark, give us the ISO order... Please? It's like, one line of code surely.
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Oh come on Mark, give us the ISO order... Please?
it's already added in my to-do list(which is rather long and currently suffers from reallifitis, causing it to move slowly)
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Why is there no civ2-style under style set?
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eeer the "apolyton classic" colors(used on the "not named after a game" styles) ARE the colors of the civ2 section
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