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Eli · December 2, 2002, 14:03

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How can I check the difficulty level IN game?

Save the game and load it. When if finishes loading there is this little screen with your name, civ, date and difficulty level.

Hot Mustard · December 2, 2002, 14:20

OK. After some fiddling around, I have determined that the save the Warmongers sent us (the RPs) was already at Regent level (and AP was off). I am curious to know where Regent kicked in - can the 1st three teams check their saves?

Borc · December 2, 2002, 14:41

question!

what is the right way to load this game now?

a)
title screen
load game
...

b)
title screen
multiplayer
host
pbem
load
game
...

i used a) because i am not the host
and the the game wa regent and ap was off

Harovan · December 2, 2002, 14:42

b) is the right way. a) may cause problems, because the game is broken and sometimes allows to view your predecessor's position or to open his game without a password. That would be considered cheating.

Hot Mustard · December 2, 2002, 14:45

Borc - I don't think it matters, if you have 1.14. (But I'm sure someone will protest that.)

Loading either way was Regent for me.

I'm not in favour of restarting to get Monarch level, but I would like to determine where/why it happened.

Well, if it was already Regent for Neu Demogyptica too, then it originated with Gathering Storm and notyoueither.

Borc · December 2, 2002, 14:49

of cause i have 114f ... what can we test now?

Hot Mustard · December 2, 2002, 15:00

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Originally posted by Borc
of cause i have 114f ... what can we test now?

That's it. Just the difficulty level, which you said was Regent. We already know AP came on sometime after the Vox's turn. Thanks.

Eli · December 2, 2002, 15:35

Maybe NYE just set the game on Regent and there was no bug?

flash9286 · December 2, 2002, 16:48

i guessed i missed alot in a day, i got the new save i played it again(and made a password) and sent it to civerdan

Darekill · December 2, 2002, 17:30

I'd say we take the game now as it is! Be it regent or not and play! This is suposed to be kind of a test isn't it? If we start to start the game over and over again and again we will never find out if our concept will work out anyway!

Eli · December 2, 2002, 17:48

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Originally posted by flash9286
i guessed i missed alot in a day, i got the new save i played it again(and made a password) and sent it to civerdan

There is nothing wrong about reading the forums before doing anything.

All you just did was done by me 7 hours ago, thank you for adding to the confusion.

vondrack · December 2, 2002, 17:57

Just came back from a party... no savegame from LI in my mailbox... I will check it again in the morning (in about 8 hours).

Lux Invicta, be so kind and send the savegame after replaying your turn to Legoland at vondrack@jimaz.cz.

flash9286 · December 2, 2002, 18:14

well Eli if you didnt have the crack version in the first place, u could have played the turn instead of me.

CiverDan · December 2, 2002, 18:18

Sorry...Just got back from work....I'm going to replay turn now. Just one question. When I loaded the save, It says barb activity is "roaming" Shouln't this be random. (acc. prod IS off and difficulty says "custom")

By the way, I do have 1.14f. I work from 8 am to 4 pm EST during the week, so that's why I havent played yet.

Will play now and send to legoland.

Eli · December 2, 2002, 18:31

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Originally posted by flash9286
well Eli if you didnt have the crack version in the first place, u could have played the turn instead of me.

I didnt play because I had to leave, or did you already forget that?

flash9286 · December 2, 2002, 18:40

sure, thats why you were on apolyton when the save was sent to me

Wittlich · December 2, 2002, 19:11

Fellow Voxians, a suggestion: If we must argue amonst ourselves - how about doing only in our private forum? We don't need the other teams watching us air our dirty laundry/difference of opinion.

FrustratedPoet · December 2, 2002, 19:15

spoilsport.

flash9286 · December 2, 2002, 19:42

anyway the password problem wasnt a problem, you can put a password in anytime in the game.

nbarclay · December 2, 2002, 19:55

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Originally posted by CiverDan
Sorry...Just got back from work....I'm going to replay turn now. Just one question. When I loaded the save, It says barb activity is "roaming" Shouln't this be random. (acc. prod IS off and difficulty says "custom")

Speculation: There's no such thing as "random" barbarians once the game gets going. The initialization process has to set barbarian activity to one of the real levels, so from then on, that's what you see if you look. Note that this is mere speculation at this point; can anyone confirm or refute it?

Nathan

FrustratedPoet · December 2, 2002, 20:06

many other options that were set to random appear as 'Custom', though, but I agree that it is all speculation at this point.

vondrack · December 3, 2002, 05:18

OK, guys, sorry for delaying it a bit this time. I came home quite tired yesterday. The long Sunday demogame night plus the Monday corporate party of our company did their job - I was really not feeling like waiting for Dan's save...

The savegame we received from Lux Invicta was fine, I think. Legoland turn has been replayed and sent to Gathering Storm (to nye, that is).

I have played a bit with the loading procedures and here is what I have found out (using 1.14f):[list=1][*] Using the "NYE procedure", it IS possible to corrupt the savegame, inadvertently switching the AP on. If you have the AP on when selecting "Load Game" from the Multiplayer Setup screen, the game will become AP positive. It does not matter if you just leave your default on, or if you manually switch the AP off an on prior to loading the savegame. If it is on, it will be set on in the game.[*] Unfortunately, this process is not reversible. You cannot "repair" a game that has the AP flag on by simply switching the AP setting off on your MP setup screen and loading the corrupted AP-positive savegame. I tried it with the original (corrupted) Lux Invicta savegame and the AP remained on.[*] The procedure suggested by the printed manual works just fine. Fire up Civ3, select Load Game from the Main Menu and off you go. Retains all the settings properly.[/list=1]My conclusions (feel free to comment):[list=1][*] The file got corrupted by being loaded using the NYE procedure, having the AP setting in the MP setup screen on. That is apparently the only way to corrupt the savegame under 1.14f.[*] The Regent setting was there either from the very beginning or crept in just like the AP did. The way to find out is to have Neu Demogyptica check the 4000BC save they got from nye/GS, using the standard load procedure from the Main Menu.[*] We shall use the standard, guide-suggested load procedure, using the Load Game function of the Main Menu. NYE procedure messes things up, if used improperly (and it's rather difficult to say, what "improperly" actually means).[*] Everybody receiving a savegame shall check what difficulty level is displayed upon loading the savegame and whether the AP is on or not - just to make sure that we notice problems ASAP.[/list=1]

EDIT: typo

Borc · December 3, 2002, 05:34

very good work! so we load the game from the main menue!!!

Eli · December 3, 2002, 06:15

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Originally posted by flash9286
sure, thats why you were on apolyton when the save was sent to me

The Apolyton users list shows members to be on even 30 minutes after they leave.

Wittlich : Ah well.

Jack_www · December 3, 2002, 12:32

I knew that NYE loading instructions was the problem.