I want to kill exactly 7 people. Volunteers?

Devil of Truth · December 4, 2002, 04:36

Ok, now that I have your attention...

I want to kill exactly 7 (or 7 percent) of my adoring citizens from one my cities using SLIC. Obviously, if I'm feeling less benevolent, I want to be able to edit the SLIC file and change this value to say 351, or whatever strokes my fancy at that time.

Don't ask me why I want to do this. Let's just say I don’t like their attitudes.

The bit of the code I'm using at the moment (stolen from IW; Peter Triggs et al - thanks guys

):

int_t tmpDead;
int_t tmpCounter;
city_t tmpCity;

city[0] = tmpCity;

tmpDead = city[0].population/10;

for (tmpCounter = 0; tmpCounter < tmpDead; tmpCounter = tmpCounter + 1) {
Event:KillPop(tmpCity);
}

This doesn't quite do what I'm looking for. Can anybody help?

The Big Mc · December 4, 2002, 05:46

i dont thinck its posible because you are dividing integers. it wont work becase after division the number is rounded up to the nearest hole number so a city with a pop of 15 will lose .5 of the pop more then your 7%.

Immortal Wombat · December 4, 2002, 05:57

That should kill of 10% of the population, though you'd need to put it into an event handler, depending on when you wanted them to die. If it's every turn, you need a handler that fires every turn. For simplicity's sake, if you wanted to do every city, the line:

Code:

HandleEvent(BeginCityTurn) 'kill10pcpt' pre{
// kill stuff code as above
}

at the beginning would kill of 10% from every city in the game.

If you want a specific city (Don't know how you want to choose which one) you'll need either its name or its index. eg. for the capital, use this:

Code:

HandleEvent(BeginCityTurn) 'kill10pcpt' pre{
if(IsHumanPlayer(player[0]))  // the human
      city_t  tmpCity;
      GetCityByIndex(player[0], 0, tmpCity);  // store your capital 
      if(tmpCity == city[0]){
           // insert kill stuff code here
      }
}
}

If you want to kill 7 citizens, simply use your code, but replace

Code:

tmpDead = city[0].population/10;

with

Code:

tmpDead = 7;

To get 7%, use:

Code:

tmpDead = city[0].population*7;
tmpDead = tmpDead/100;

Done separately to avoid rounding errors when SLIC tries to do fractions (it can't).

hope this helps, and is comprehensible

Immortal Wombat · December 4, 2002, 05:59

/me realsies there's a good chance you knew most of that, and are getting rounding errors*

The Big Mc · December 4, 2002, 06:33

wombat does this mean you are volunteering!

Devil of Truth · December 4, 2002, 09:35

Thanks Big Mc and IW for your help and suggestions. As always, much appreciated.

Unfortunately, I still cannot wreak my revenge on exactly 7 lucky individuals. Here’s why:

* Create a SLIC with the code as suggested, and set tmpDead to 7 (tmpDead = 7

;
* Add the SLIC to script.slc blah-blah-blah;
* Create a new game;
* Build a city and cheat it to population size 10 (just so we’re clear - when I say population size, I mean the number below the city name.)

You should now be the proud owner of a city with 100 000 inhabitants! (Even though I suck at math), the city should grow by: 100 000 + growth - 7;

Right?

Wrong. (End the turn.)

Whoa! The city now has +/-30 000 people! Where have 69 993 folks disappeared to?

Instead of inflicting my benevolent rule on exactly 7 people - I’ve now slaughtered them and their entire family and all their friends and all their friends’ family and their bank managers and their family and the guy that delivers the paper and his family and the dude that tries to wash your car at a red light and his family and their neighbours and their family and their neighbours’ neighbours and their families and… you get the picture.

It seems Event:KillPop(tmpCity); doesn’t use the city population, instead, it uses the population number. (If I’ve just said something that everybody else already knew - ignore it.)

Nevertheless, the question still stands. How do I kill exactly 7 people?

child of Thor · December 4, 2002, 09:48

DoT i sure hope you can sleep easy at night. I suppose you could put it down to a catastrophic government mistake......some experiment gone wrong, either way i wouldn't want to be one of your citizens during this experiment, I have a feeling more may perish

Pedrunn · December 4, 2002, 09:49

Code:

(...)
	for(i=0; i > 7; i = i + 1) {
		Event:KillPop(tmpCity); 
	}
(...)

or

Code:

(...)
	AddPops(tmpCity, -7);
(...)

Immortal Wombat · December 4, 2002, 09:49

Quote:

It seems Event:KillPop(tmpCity); doesn’t use the city population, instead, it uses the population number.

Yes... 'fraid so.

So 7 people rather than 7 pop points? That's much harder. Very little SLIC deals with the actual population. Um...

Probably the best way is to plant some sort of tile improvement to fine tune the actual growth of the city. I don't know if it would work properly.

Can I ask why you would wish to?

Pedrunn · December 4, 2002, 09:52

Quote:

The city now has +/-30 000 people! Where have 69 993 folks disappeared to?

I just saw this
sorry it is impossibe (I think)

The Big Mc · December 4, 2002, 10:39

it is possible but only in a msg box.

Pedrunn · December 4, 2002, 10:42

how???

The Big Mc · December 4, 2002, 10:44

very easy indeed but i have to run for the bus now sea you tomorrow after 2.30pm gmt.

Pedrunn · December 4, 2002, 10:49

HuangShang · December 4, 2002, 20:33

the title really tight but i dont uderstand anything u guy said

Devil of Truth · December 5, 2002, 04:56

Thanks again everybody.

coT, I sleep the peaceful sleep of the righteous at night. My citizens understand the importance of the "Grand Experiment." They realise it’s for the "Greater Good." Their "Grandiose Patriotism" will always be remembered. And those that don’t agree with me – die

! So, everybody wins!

Quote:

Very little SLIC deals with the actual population.

IW, I was afraid of that. I had a feeling that SLIC wouldn’t let me do it!

The reason for all this bloodshed: A friend of mine remarked that he’d like something like Cancer or Bubonic Plague or Smallpox or Cholera or Whatever to affect the citizens of his cities. Every turn a very small number of people in every city dies – not enough to be irritating - but enough to hamper growth a tad. This would be triggered by an advance or an age, and would continue until either a cure is discovered, or a wonder is built (Cure for Cancer in Civ2). I think it makes a nice little sub-plot. A race within a race. I also thought it wouldn’t be too difficult...

Pedrunn - NO

! You cannot possibly say "impossible" so flippantly! You’re one of my CTP2 heroes! Don’t let me down. (Besides – I have a rather embarrassing Pedrunn quote on impossibility right here.)

Big Mc, the wilful decimation of my population is on your shoulders now. No pressure.

Pedrunn · December 5, 2002, 07:47

Quote:

Originally posted by Devil of Truth
Pedrunn - NO

! You cannot possibly say "impossible" so flippantly! You’re one of my CTP2 heroes! Don’t let me down. (Besides – I have a rather embarrassing Pedrunn quote on impossibility right here.)

Ooops!

At least thanks to Big Mc we know how meanless this word is around here.
No matter what this doesnt mean that the effect you want cant be work around. We can always remove the people with invisible TI's or unamed buildings with food penalties. Not as accurate but efficient.

The Big Mc · December 5, 2002, 10:25

The only way to do it if may reasoning is right is to model the civs growth. This is to mean that the word estimate is put in front of the pop in the city view windows. And then use msq boxes to say that “7 people have been killed in the great experiment today”. Then using the INT CityFoodDelta(city) function one can model the citys growth pattern then minus a pop point or so when the dead of the exsperimant = 501 or greater. every turn you would add the regular new pop so the 501 would becom 491 if ten people are added per turn then you would minus the dead of the experiment. So the city growth is reduced.

if you think I wont to program it I suggest you turn to some one else.