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Jedinica Vrijstaat orders suggestion:

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Pandemonium former on square (10,88)
Finish task of removing fungus, then move one square west to Tacticus Academy and rehome former.

Sheathed Sword former on square (13,59)
Build road, then move one tile south to help build the condenser to help the other former. Should twose two formers be finished before the end of the chat, build farm&condenser on (13,59).

Pandemonium Former on (14,62)
Move one tile SE and First build road, followed by a forest and sensor array. Should it be finished before time, help the previous two former with their condenser job.

Two formers on (17,63)
Both build road on current tile. After a road has ben built by that other former on (15,63), move one tile west and builld forest and sensor array. If finished before time, these two build a forest on (18,64).

Concordia former on (19,65) - nutrient forest
Build road on its current tile. Then build roads on the flat&moist tiles in the SE and S.

Formers built in Concordia
Farm&solar those high-elevated rolling&moist tiles. The roaded one seems a good first choice.

Formers built in Pandemonium
Build roads on the three unroaded rainy tiles directly around Pandemonium.

Formers built in Sheathed Sword
Help build farms&condensers.

Formers built in Terminal Dogma
Help build roads in the SE.

Crawlers

Crawler currently in Antioch
Move to the minerals NE of Concordia and convoy minerals. I presume a Concordia worker will have to be changed into a Technician due to lack of enough productive tiles.

Crawlers built in Sheathed Sword
Convoy minerals on the rocky minerals. Convoy nutrients on farmed condensered tiles. Workers should be moved to forested or rolling&rainy tiles then.

Worker allocations

Don't forget to move the Terminal Dogma worker back to that energy bonus tile when the mind worm has disappeared!

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Concordia
Network Node - Former - 1-2t-2 military unit to be stationed centrally in Pandemonium (DBTS?)

Pandemonium
Children's Creche - Former - Crawler

Sheathed Sword
Crawler - Crawler - Former

Terminal Dogma
Change build queue!!!
First "Police infantry". I request a hurry of 15 energy credits. I also request the DPO, if the mind worm stays in its current location, to attack the mind worm with the scout patrol unit in MY 2205. If that unit is killed, also attack with the newly created police infantry.
So the build queue is:
Police infantry - Former - Crawler
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ooh, i like. new orders: all governors are now required to make pictures like maniac's

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TKG: I formally request a transport foil, and a probe team, on the Eastern side of our great nation. Aside from the need to have the ability to transport troops to the Hive if the plan for an invasion materialises (when I shall immediatly transfer it to DPO control) we need to have an infiltrator in the University. Despite his 'freeflow of information', he has refused to tell us what technologies he has, or how well developed the Empath Guild is yet. It is imperitive we know, so as to plan our own construction of the project. We could even steal the tech, if he continues to refuse.
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sounds good. GT or voltaire: are TBIBTU and/or NS occupied? get on that will you?

GT and maniac: can you commit a few bases to building probes?
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sounds good. GT or voltaire: are TBIBTU and/or NS occupied? get on that will you?
Done and done.

And I would like to officially request that more Colony Pods be diverted to the Twin Sea region to counter the increasing expansion of Morgan on our eastern border
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sounds good. GT or voltaire: are TBIBTU and/or NS occupied? get on that will you?
Occupied how?

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GT and maniac: can you commit a few bases to building probes?
Done, though I assume you mean skimship probes.
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No, a probe team (although skimship probe would be nice too ), needed for probing the University.

Occupied as in building anything important. Can they be used for the transport foil and probe team?
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Yes. Orders amended. This is why we need time to post preliminary orders.
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yes, occupied as in orders from someone else (DBTS) or building an SP or something
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noticed a few things while browsing the save:

in TBIBTU (you could put it on the farm if you want i guess though)


north of suez (fungus on that tile)


also , i don't have a shot, but there needs to be some massive trawling in the FWC

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in TBIBTU (you could put it on the farm if you want i guess though)
I gave orders to have that worker moved.
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Perhaps it would be great if the DIA kept a record of how much energy was spent on each region's hurrying and upgrading.
I think so far for Jedinica it was about 80 ec for a trance scout skirmisher during the mind worm uprising, about 40 ec for upgrading all four garrisons with improved non-lethal police methods. I don't recall that for sure anymore, but there also might have been a rush of rec commons in Pandemonium. That might vary between 0 or 50 ec. I have no idea. What about the other regions?
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question for which region will the seabase in FWsea be (CP is almost done in ZG) and for which region will the CP be that will colonize south of Xanadu?
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both for akiria
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I'll not argue!, but how did you arrive at that.
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well, the FWC base is being decided in a poll, and for south of xanadu, i just want to have all regions equally large. right now aurillion has 4 bases, and with the FWC base, akiria will have 5, however they're small and less work to administer
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Could someone please give me an estimate of how much energy was spent on what region the last turnchat?
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on my region it was 40-80 Ec
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Ok thanks.

Anyway, here's a copy of my preliminary orders for review by the Board of Internal Affairs:

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Requests for the DPO Hercules

Could you please rehome the Pandemonian trance scout skirmisher garrisoned at Terminal Dogma to Terminal Dogma?
Could you please send one of the police infantries garrisoned at Concordia to the new base U.N. Criminal Tribunal and rehome it as the new garrison?

Questions for the DIA TKG

Is U.N. Criminal Tribunal the final name of that base or is it just temporary? If a poll will follow, could you please include "Shangri La" as one of the options?
I have seen other governors request for huge hurry orders, even bigger than those of the last session. Will these be granted? Or will there come a more conservative use of our cash reserve? In any case, if our money will all be used, I'd like to request some hurries too before all the goodies are gone. A hurry of the tree farm production at Concordia, the network node production at Sheathed Sword (if not rushed there will be a drone riot unless of course I use specialists), and the recycling tanks production at U.N. Criminal Tribunal once 10 minerals are accumulated.
A last question? If the two already planned bases in the north are built, will there come a new region? Will there be a base of the current Jedinica Vrijstaat region transferred to the control of the new governor? Sheathed Sword or Terminal Dogma? In any case, for now I will presume Sheathed Sword will be put in a new region, as that is the most northern base.

Build queues

Concordia (changes)
tree farm
supply crawler
supply crawler

Pandemonium (changes)
trance plasma sentinels
hab complex
supply crawler

Sheathed Sword (changes)
network node
police infantry
colony pod
police infantry
colony pod

Terminal Dogma (changes)
supply crawler
children's creche
network node
tree farm

U.N. Criminal Tribunal (changes)
recycling tanks
children's creche
rec commons

Worker allocations

Concordia
Change the NW fungal worker to a more productive tile once available, for example a forest. Or when no forest is available, the tree farm is finished so nutrients are sufficient, please change it into a librarian specialist (or doctor of course if needed due to pop growth).

Pandemonium
Move the NW worker off the field and change it into a librarian specialist. Also change the current doctor specialist into a librarian. This should result in three librarians.

Sheathed Sword
Move the SE-SE flat&rainy worker to the SE-E forest (after moving the crawler off that square - please see the crawler orders)

Colony pods

For the colony pods constructed at Sheathed Sword, please send them to (14,54) and (19,59), as was decided long ago. Please ask TKG where to send the first CP to and where to the second.

Supply crawlers

Sheathed Sword crawler E-SE of ShSw (15.63), convoying minerals
-move to U.N. Criminal Tribunal
-rehome
-move to (11.69) SW of Pandemonium
-convoy nutrients

Crawler produced at Concordia
Convoy minerals at (12.74), NE of Concordia. Change the local worker to a free forest or rolling & moist tile. Or make it a librarian/doctor specialist when food is sufficient.

Crawler produced at Pandemonium
Crawl some nutrients on a nearby free condenser farm.

Crawler produced at Terminal Dogma
Convoy nutrients on (22.68) E-E-S of Terminal Dogma.

Formers

Two Sheathed Sword formers E-NE of ShSw (15.61), constructing a solar collector
-finish solar collector
-move one tile E
-build road
-move one tile N
-remove fungus
-build road
-construct mine

Sheathed Sword former SW of ShSw (11.63), waiting for orders
-move two tiles E
-construct sensor array
-move one tile SW
-build road
-move one tile SW
-build road

Concordia former E-E-S of Terminal Dogma (22.69), waiting for orders
-construct condenser
-move to (16.64) NW-NW of TeDo
-build road
-plant forest

Two Terminal Dogma formers E-E-S of TeDo (22.69), waiting for orders and building condensor
-finish condenser
-move five tiles NW
-plant forest
-if road at (16.64) one tile SW is finished, plant forest there. If not, go one tile N and plant forest there.

Three Pandemonium and one Terminal Dogma formers NW of Pandemonium (11.67), constructing condenser
-all finish condenser
-move one tile S
-all construct condenser
-the entire group moves to (12.72) two tiles S of Pandemonium. There the group splits up.
->One former goes one tile W and builds road
->One former goed one tile E and builds road
->Two other formers go one tile SE and plant farm & solar collector
If any of these four formers are finished with their task before the turnchat has ended, help the others perform their task or start constructing mine at (14.72) W-NW of UNCT when that task is finished as well.

Concordian former at (13.77) SE-SE of Concordia, waiting for orders
-move one tile NE
-build road
-move one tile NE
-build road
-move one tile back SW
-plant forest
-move one tile NW
-build road

Concordian former 1 at UNCT, waiting for orders
-REHOME to U.N. Criminal Tribunal
-move one tile SE
-build road
-move to help the other Concordian former around UNCT (see orders below)

Concordian former 2 at UNTC, waiting for orders
-move one tile W
-cultivate farm
-move one tile N
-plant forest
-move one tile NE
-plant forest
-construct sensor array

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Questions for the DIA TKG
Is U.N. Criminal Tribunal the final name of that base or is it just temporary? If a poll will follow, could you please include "Shangri La" as one of the options?
I have seen other governors request for huge hurry orders, even bigger than those of the last session. Will these be granted? Or will there come a more conservative use of our cash reserve? In any case, if our money will all be used, I'd like to request some hurries too before all the goodies are gone. A hurry of the tree farm production at Concordia, the network node production at Sheathed Sword (if not rushed there will be a drone riot unless of course I use specialists), and the recycling tanks production at U.N. Criminal Tribunal once 10 minerals are accumulated.
A last question? If the two already planned bases in the north are built, will there come a new region? Will there be a base of the current Jedinica Vrijstaat region transferred to the control of the new governor? Sheathed Sword or Terminal Dogma? In any case, for now I will presume Sheathed Sword will be put in a new region, as that is the most northern base
uh i don't *think* that was the decided name, but i could be wrong. i'll check the last poll later, right now i have no time. remind me

i'd *like* to be more conservative with our money if possible. i forget what the results of that budget poll were

as for a new region, that's possible. i havn't checked the save yet though, so it's hard for me to tell ATM. maybe once we have that base west of concordia, we can think about it, just to keep equality among # of bases in the region. for now, just work all new bases to the north. i'll check the save later, and we can hold a poll sooner if you feel overworked
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No, it wasn't; we'd run out of names by the time we built it, so we just gave it the default until it could be given a permanent name.
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oh really? i thought that last poll would have lasted longer. expect a new one soon in that case
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A last question? If the two already planned bases in the north are built, will there come a new region? Will there be a base of the current Jedinica Vrijstaat region transferred to the control of the new governor? Sheathed Sword or Terminal Dogma? In any case, for now I will presume Sheathed Sword will be put in a new region, as that is the most northern base
ok: first of all, i don't see any pods in production/bases so i don't think this will be a problem in the very near future. however, once the 2 bases have been built to the north, i intend to put them in a region with sheathed sword. maybe terminal dogma too if we ever get a base on that little peninsula-thingy northeast of TBIBTU
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That little peninsula - thingy north of TBIBTU is one of the areas I request someone, the DEI or GOV of the TBIBTU base or whichever base is able , to explore.

This peninsula island I would regard as one of the key naval defensive areas and we need a coastal base on it as soon as practicable.

TKG: As an aside Cyclops as a base must now be high up in the charts. To really make my day I need a personal Sea Base in the 'Mouth of Hercules'. its my destiny.
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i agree with hercules that building a navalbase on the peninsula will serve us and hercules naval defense plan well. but might i also give the idea of building several sea bases near that position so that we can insure a save sea area between NA and the peninsula
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Old January 16, 2003, 15:38   #29
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ok: first of all, i don't see any pods in production/bases so i don't think this will be a problem in the very near future. however, once the 2 bases have been built to the north, i intend to put them in a region with sheathed sword.
Ok thanks for your answer. Production of two colony pods plus its escort is planned after the network node is completed at Sheathed Sword.
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Old January 16, 2003, 17:36   #30
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That little peninsula - thingy north of TBIBTU is one of the areas I request someone, the DEI or GOV of the TBIBTU base or whichever base is able , to explore.
Has been put in the DEI poll. Which islands do you mean? You said before about the ones West of TBIBTU and NA. Sorry if I got it wrong

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TKG: As an aside Cyclops as a base must now be high up in the charts. To really make my day I need a personal Sea Base in the 'Mouth of Hercules'. its my destiny.
Sounds like a great idea. If cyclops wins, can it be the name for the new base about ot be founded (next turnchat) in Akiria?
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