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Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
This RPG, set 4000 years before the films, looks quite cool. The character development looks especially interesting, with multiple lightsabre styles and force techniques. It's also possible to turn to the Dark Side by being evil, and you can then use their techniques like force lighting and force choke.
http://www.lucasarts.com/products/swkotor/
Having said that, games often fail to live up to the hype, especially when they're touted on the Other Games forum.
Thoughts, anyone?
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December 8, 2002, 18:07
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Bioware's doing it, and MS gave them a ton of money to aid development and securing console exclusivity to Xbox, so I think it'll go well.
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December 8, 2002, 18:10
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After seeing the c*** LucasArts has been making for the past year or two... I think they should give up. Instead of taking time to make quality games, they let some other company do it for them, and you can tell Quality Control is shot to hell.
I seriously hope this one flops hard, and make LEC to WAKE UP!
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December 8, 2002, 21:07
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WTF? All LucasArts is just producing it.
Bioware is the one developing it, so I certainly don't hope it flops hard...
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December 8, 2002, 21:59
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Bioware lost much of its popularity after NWN.
If KotOR sucks, then Bioware will probably loose the rest. As history has shown, RPG fans don't give developers many chances.
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December 9, 2002, 00:10
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NWN got great reviews and sold very well, why did they lose popularity?
Their worst games were MDK1 and 2.
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December 9, 2002, 01:00
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always hope for the best prepare for the worst....so many games are like this , Public Enemy said it best...
"dont believe the hype"
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December 9, 2002, 13:36
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Originally posted by Asher
WTF? All LucasArts is just producing it.
Bioware is the one developing it, so I certainly don't hope it flops hard...
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My exact reason why I hope it sucks. LEC are letting other companies ruin their games and they are just sitting being lazy. Now I know why the guy who made X-Wing and TIE Fighter left.
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December 9, 2002, 14:04
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That SS looks more like a FPS than a RPG. Not a stat bar in sight 
NWN did exactly what it said on the tin - made realtime multiplayer AD&D a possibility. Now what they need is a quality team to make a really hot 1PG scenario for it as well as introducing a bumper pack of new monsters, skills, feats and spells.
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December 9, 2002, 16:35
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Originally posted by Thrawn05
My exact reason why I hope it sucks. LEC are letting other companies ruin their games and they are just sitting being lazy. Now I know why the guy who made X-Wing and TIE Fighter left.
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Did it ever occur to you that they have a limited amount of people and are making other games?
They're a developer AND a publisher. Sometimes they develop, sometimes they publish... 
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December 9, 2002, 20:45
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IIRC Bioware is going to release 2 expansions for NWN.
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December 9, 2002, 23:49
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Originally posted by Asher
Did it ever occur to you that they have a limited amount of people and are making other games?
They're a developer AND a publisher. Sometimes they develop, sometimes they publish...
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Did it ever occur to you that when they started letting people go, the quality of the games dropped. 
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December 10, 2002, 00:44
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As far as I'm concerned LucasArts has never developed a good game in their entire history.
I'm glad they got someone with a pedigree to develop KOTOR rather than butchering it themselves.
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December 10, 2002, 00:53
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Originally posted by Asher
NWN got great reviews and sold very well, why did they lose popularity?
Their worst games were MDK1 and 2.
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Many, many people were disappoined with NWN. It also failed to bring over some of the more well-known IE fans, such as those of Team BG.
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December 10, 2002, 02:15
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Originally posted by Apocalypse
Many, many people were disappoined with NWN.
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I must be living on a different planet because everyone I know has had the opposite reaction. 
Are you talking about the hardcore losers who whine whenever something changes with a game?
"This is nothing like Baldur's Gate, this SUCKS" etc?
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December 10, 2002, 12:00
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As far as I'm concerned LucasArts has never developed a good game in their entire history.
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Let's see...
LEC's Prime Games
Rebel Assault
Rebel Assault II
Dark Forces
Dark Forces II: Jedi Knight
The Dig
Grim Fandango
Sam N' Max: Hit the Road
Indiana Jones: And the fate of Atlantis
X-Wing
Tie Fighter: Collector's CD-ROM
Full Throttle
X-Wing v. TIE Fighter (and the XP, Balance of Power)
Maniac Mansion
Maniac Mansion II: Day of the Tentacle
Outlaws
Afterlife
All the Monkey Islands
And their old Flight Sim games
LEC's Okay games (the begining of their end)
Rebellion
Force Commander
X-Wing Alliance
Rouge Squadron
The games that totaly suck from LEC
Battlegrounds
Jedi Knight II
All Consol Games they make
The only game I didn't play from them is that Online RPG thingy, Galaxy or somthing. I have no interest in multiplayer.
So, as you can see, LEC made tons of excellent games on their own. Now, let's end this debait. We disagree, so let's move on.
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December 10, 2002, 13:46
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Originally posted by Thrawn05
Let's see...
LEC's Prime Games
Rebel Assault
Rebel Assault II
Dark Forces
Dark Forces II: Jedi Knight
The Dig
Grim Fandango
Sam N' Max: Hit the Road
Indiana Jones: And the fate of Atlantis
X-Wing
Tie Fighter: Collector's CD-ROM
Full Throttle
X-Wing v. TIE Fighter (and the XP, Balance of Power)
Maniac Mansion
Maniac Mansion II: Day of the Tentacle
Outlaws
Afterlife
All the Monkey Islands
And their old Flight Sim games
LEC's Okay games (the begining of their end)
Rebellion
Force Commander
X-Wing Alliance
Rouge Squadron
The games that totaly suck from LEC
Battlegrounds
Jedi Knight II
All Consol Games they make
The only game I didn't play from them is that Online RPG thingy, Galaxy or somthing. I have no interest in multiplayer.
So, as you can see, LEC made tons of excellent games on their own. Now, let's end this debait. We disagree, so let's move on.
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The only good game on that list is Grim Fandango.
All of the other games are overrated crap and wouldn't sell 1% of what they did if it wasn't for the Star Wars license or Indiana Jones or whatever. 
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December 10, 2002, 15:21
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There is no help for you Asher. Anyone who turns down at LEAST Sam N' Max has somthing wrong. 
Oh well.
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December 10, 2002, 16:10
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Originally posted by Thrawn05
The games that totaly suck from LEC
Battlegrounds
Jedi Knight II
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1) I am astounded that you actually rate crap like Force Commander and Rebellion higher than Battlegrounds, a game that was actually decent.
2) What exactly was wrong with Jedi Knight II?
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December 10, 2002, 23:54
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some of those games were alright, but i didn't like jedi knight II either
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December 11, 2002, 06:42
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The Monkey Island games were good, Jedi Knight was average at best and all the Star Wars and Indians Jones games suck.
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