How can I "Fix" the French

TacticalGrace · December 11, 2002, 08:25

Those pink guys! many people love their Ind/Com traits but their UU sucks.

How can the french muskateer be modded so they don't suck but without unbalancing play or making later units redundant?

what do people think about making the muskateer 4/4/1 ?

Stuie · December 11, 2002, 14:55

If you're going to increase their attack by 2, you'll need to bump up the shield cost to compensate for the added power.

player1 · December 11, 2002, 16:04

4/4/1 is FINE.

Even with same cost of 60.

Just compare it to PtW Medivial Infantry: 4/2/1/cost 40
Or to Samurai: 4/4/2/cost70

So 4/4/1/cost 60 is definetly NOT unbalancing.

The Rusty Gamer · December 11, 2002, 23:29

You could always say they are "wheeled" to restrict their movements. Just something off the top of my head.

Kloreep · December 12, 2002, 01:58

I'm with Player1. Medieval Infantry cost 40 shields, and are 4/2/1; so the Musketeer is even shortchanged at 4/4/1, because it costs 20 shields to get 2 extra defense. (Of course, its position on the upgrade chain probably makes up for that.)

TacticalGrace · December 12, 2002, 06:43

It's the samurai argument that does it for me. It has the same defence as the muskateer but it's an older unit. Even boosting the muskateer to 4/4/1 and keeping the cost of 60 it seems that the Japanese get the better deal. They get all that +1 movement for only 10 gold more AND they get it earlier!

player1 · December 12, 2002, 09:40

That's why in my MOD Musketmen and Musketter cost 50 shields instead of 60.

TacticalGrace · December 12, 2002, 11:01

of course until civ3 has proper stack movement I'm still going to tend to want to build EXPENSIVE units...

I'd rather move round a few elite quality units than hordes of mediocre ones.

Spiffor · December 12, 2002, 11:21

Now that the Sipahi exists, I think a 3/5/1 for 60 shields can be a good fix for the French : they have an extremely strong defense, and a tolerable offense if needed.
Of course, I'm with Player1 on this one, regular musketmen should be 50 shields (otherwise, the French UU would be way too strong)

GhengisFarb™ · December 12, 2002, 12:04

Quote:

Originally posted by TacticalGrace
How do I fix the French ?

With a pair of scissors and somebody to hold them down...............