Foriegn Ministry on the Mongols

H Tower · January 2, 2003, 02:56

Seeing as how the foriegn ministry is leaderless, and I want to be able to play the game with feedback from the people on our relations with the rest of the world, it means I get to do about +25 for all of my posts tonight

The mongols are our key tech gifting civ, if we give them techs, we get a tech boost supposedly, however, they'll just turn around and use that tech on us because we're at war right now.
So, what should we do with the Mongols?

Now that all of you have read my spiel half a dozen times, i have something extra to say about the hated huns. I don't want to give them a single thing for the rest of the game, they've been nothing but a pain in the ass since I took over, rejected everyone of my emissaries. They kill our settlers, maim our children, and have their way with our women. I want them wiped out, a military solution. Do you hear me!? A MILITARY SOLUTION!!!

rjmatsleepers · January 2, 2003, 03:06

Don't beat about the bush, tell us what you really think

I Guess you secretly like them a lot

RJM at Sleepers

H Tower · January 2, 2003, 03:34

isn't role playing wonderful?

H Tower · January 2, 2003, 13:59

there have been 7 votes in poll A, but only 4 voters.

And it seems that everyone thinks the banana would do a better job at leading the foriegn ministry than me

Ben Kenobi · January 2, 2003, 19:26

We techgifted the Mongols- we made them what they are now

As for a military solution- I vote against it. UN Ceasefires will buy time for us to construct our spaceship quickly. War is bad for trade as well, and we are still getting good bonuses for freights.

BTW- Flight kills our 'van bonuses until we get automobile.

Steal technogies?

Bananas? Everyone eats bananas for lunch, even apolytoners.

cavebear · January 2, 2003, 19:47

Don't worry about the banana votes. Those votes always come early and often...

War4ever · January 3, 2003, 01:43

i am in favor of crushing my favorite mongol horde....letting any warmongering civ live is foolish

JCP · January 3, 2003, 15:56

Quote:

Originally posted by H Tower
there have been 7 votes in poll A, but only 4 voters.

Normal !
We may want peace only if free.
If peace is rejected, we may propose UN ceasefire.
Several answers are compatible.

War4ever · January 3, 2003, 16:31

why must our democracy suffer the embarrassment of sneak attacks..... let the doves do their dance after the hawks have torn their prey to shreds....

a united mongol empire is not healthy for us!!!!!!

mrboo123 · January 3, 2003, 19:53

I agree!

War4ever · January 3, 2003, 21:14

too bad were greatly outnumbered by the doves

cavebear · January 3, 2003, 22:48

It's not necessarily that we are "doves", but that we decided collectively easrly in the game to play it out in an A/C and militarily defensive mode. We want to see how the game goes in this way, but we do expect to win it in this way.

If we fail, we fail. But we don't want to just panic and completely change the strategy of the game at this point. We could have gone for a military win a long time ago and we decided not to do that.

Our challenge to ourselves in this game is to see if we can win a non-offensive military game with A/C at the end.

Ben Kenobi · January 4, 2003, 19:16

Our goal to win by AC landing peacefully does not preclude the use of spies or 'defensive counterattacks'.

Couldn't we start a campaign to take the one Mongol city near naples? This way the warlike Mongols are forced to land ships in order to attack our cities.

H Tower · January 4, 2003, 19:22

the difficulty is that naples is far removed from the rest of the empire, and to ship units there would take time and cause happiness problems by units away from their cities

Our campaign to bribe barbarian units had been called to a halt, perhaps we should restart it?

mrboo123 · January 5, 2003, 09:24

Quote:

Originally posted by H Tower
...perhaps we should restart it?

NO YOU WIMP!

LETS FINISH THE GAME, THEN START A NEW GAME!!!

cavebear · January 5, 2003, 12:38

Quote:

Originally posted by 123john321

NO YOU WIMP!

LETS FINISH THE GAME, THEN START A NEW GAME!!!

H Tower meant "restart our earlier practice of bribing Barb NONE units", not "restart the game".

H Tower · January 5, 2003, 15:22

cavebear is correct John, I have no intention of restarting the entire game

War4ever · January 5, 2003, 16:36

thank god....i think a bit of unhappiness to secure an area is a smart thing though.....i know were not going to blitzkrieg the whole empire...but we should take "threats" away from the empire too

H Tower · January 5, 2003, 16:47

disorder fot too long could bring down the government though, and i think we'd all like to avoid that

Ben Kenobi · January 5, 2003, 17:08

As cityplanner, I could 'tinker' with the disorder in the cities. As long as we are careful, a small strike should not cause happiness problems. A full scale war would likely require an increase in luxuries.

cavebear · January 5, 2003, 17:55

If we were to explore the area around Naples and locate any AI cities that might attack us, that might be a good thing
... Knowledge is valuable.

War4ever · January 5, 2003, 19:33

obiwan speeks some sense here.....its is logical that a small strike force would benefit us most, and while were at it we can scout the area?

the bottom line is what kind of threat do the mongols posses. Democracies can handle a short tactical strike me thinks