After Firaxis artists', the image of Alexander the Great takes another blow

MarkG · January 3, 2003, 15:54

DiCaprio to play Alexander the Great!
http://www.zap2it.com/movies/news/st...-14828,00.html

evidence of the two visual attacks on history

Alexander in Civ3

DiCaprio

the real thing

http://www.phil.uni-erlangen.de/%7Ep...der/alex55.JPG
http://www.uoregon.edu/~arthist/arth.../alexander.gif
http://faq.macedonia.org/images/alexander.mosaic.jpg

Bereta_Eder · January 3, 2003, 15:56

6 movies are being prepared about Alexander's life.

And Venizelos has sat his fat arse on the neck of all 6 producers

Sava · January 3, 2003, 15:58

If DiCRAPio plays AtG I won't see it...

SlowwHand · January 3, 2003, 16:02

He looks like he has a great many bee stings in the "real thing". Maybe a rash of some form.

MarkG · January 3, 2003, 16:02

i'm not sure where the greek media got the story about 6 projects. it seems that it's only 2(a Baz Luhrmann-Leonardo DiCaprio and Oliver Stone-Colin Farrell one)

Sava · January 3, 2003, 16:05

Oliver Stone - Colin Farrell... that's a good pair... I'll see that!

MarkG · January 3, 2003, 16:06

meanwhile, great historians(e.g. cinema journalists) argue about the sexuality of Alexander. some say he is gay. while other confirm that he is bi(in fact, according to that historian, alexander will be the first bisexual action hero)

Imran Siddiqui · January 3, 2003, 16:07

Why is Decaprio mangling what Alexander looks like? Maybe we should see how he looks in the movie before making that judgment? Hollywood can do amazing things.

Boris Godunov · January 3, 2003, 16:07

Given Leo's sex symbol status with the ladies, I suppose this means they will ignore, gloss over or just lie about his deliances with men?

What crap.

Sava · January 3, 2003, 16:08

not true Markos...

Bereta_Eder · January 3, 2003, 16:10

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i'm not sure where the greek media got the story about 6 projects. it seems that it's only 2(a Baz Luhrmann-Leonardo DiCaprio and Oliver Stone-Colin Farrell one)

yep most of them are just plans for the time being.

Although there does seem to be a "Alexander" mania going on in the US.

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MarkG · January 3, 2003, 16:11

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Why is Decaprio mangling what Alexander looks like?

for a start, does he convice you as someone with great fighting skills? Alexander practically lead his army into battle....

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Given Leo's sex symbol status with the ladies

do sex symbols in gay/bi roles attract women?

MarkG · January 3, 2003, 16:14

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not true Markos...

on what?

Imran Siddiqui · January 3, 2003, 16:14

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for a start, does he convice you as someone with great fighting skills?

Have you seen Gangs of New York? I don't see why he wouldn't be considered someone with fighting skills?

Did Brad Pitt convince you as someone with great fighting skills before 'Fight Club'?

Boris Godunov · January 3, 2003, 16:15

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Given Leo's sex symbol status with the ladies

do sex symbols in gay/bi roles attract women?

Traditionally, the perception in Hollywood is that heart throbs should avoid playing gay/bi characters lest it tarnish their "stud" image. Agents will often forbid their actors from playing gay more than once, as once is ok for broadening acting repetoire, but more than once would raise eyebrows.

Leo has played gay once before, so I doubt you'll see him do so again. Same thing with Matt Damon, Jude Law, etc. The only "heart throb" who has played a gay character more than once that I can think of is an actual gay actor, Rupert Everett.

Bereta_Eder · January 3, 2003, 16:18

Imran, I wasn't convinced of Pitt's fighting skills even after Fight Club

alva · January 3, 2003, 16:19

styled after AtG....

Bereta_Eder · January 3, 2003, 16:20

yeah, the haircut

Bereta_Eder · January 3, 2003, 16:21

after Morisson's own request even, if you believe some rather sensionalistic biography

MarkG · January 3, 2003, 16:22

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Have you seen Gangs of New York?

havent seen it (not in greece yet)

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Did Brad Pitt convince you as someone with great fighting skills before 'Fight Club'?

havent seen that either

but we're talking war with heavy weapons here, not fist fighting....

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Traditionally, the perception in Hollywood is that heart throbs should avoid playing gay/bi characters lest it tarnish their "stud" image.

well, i never thought Leo had a "stud" image....

what was his gay role?

Bereta_Eder · January 3, 2003, 16:26

BTW, in the latest issue of Empire ( a british cinema magazine, the largest one of its kind in the UK actually) there is an interview of Oliver Stone.

He says there is no "gay thing" in the movie.

Just some referance about bi, which of course does not encapsulate the life of AtG, defines or limits him at justthat.

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DaShi · January 3, 2003, 16:27

I doubt he was bi/gay. He was Macedonian.

alva · January 3, 2003, 16:30

He was...

Boris Godunov · January 3, 2003, 16:30

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what was his gay role?

Total Eclipse. He played bisexual poet Arthur Rimbaud.

Chris 62 · January 3, 2003, 16:31

So Paiktis, they will film in Morroco?

It was interesting in the article that they may get 5,000 soldiers to play the armies!

Bereta_Eder · January 3, 2003, 16:33

Yes, in Morroco. It seems it is very much cheaper there.

Hmm will they get so many?

Or just computer animate them like they did in LOTR?

Boris Godunov · January 3, 2003, 16:33

Are you telling me they didn't have 10,000 people in orc outfits in the Two Towers? Cha.

alva · January 3, 2003, 16:35

Nah, that was in your dream...

Chris 62 · January 3, 2003, 16:38

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Yes, in Morroco. It seems it is very much cheaper there.

I think world events might have also played a part as far as India is concerned.

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Hmm will they get so many?

Or just computer animate them like they did in LOTR?

Depends on the director's ego, but 5,000 men would make a spectaular display, better then a simulation, wouldn't you think?

Boris Godunov · January 3, 2003, 16:41

In a 1950s Italian version of Les Miserables, the director got 2,000 extras to do the street fighting between the student rebels and the French National Guardsmen.

The result was some spectacular scenes, and many many many injured extras, some quite seriously.