Term 8 Foreign Affairs Minister Election

Togas · January 12, 2003, 22:55

You may choose between these candidates for Foreign Affairs Minister for Term 8:

Shiber
Thud

This poll will be open for 3 days.

Thud · January 12, 2003, 23:15

I have a vote? I wasn't expecting that, thanks!

E_T · January 12, 2003, 23:46

Vote for Thud, as he won't let the other Nations take advantage of us.

E_T

Meshelic · January 13, 2003, 00:08

Vote Shiber! His aggressive foreign policies will ensure that our neighbors could never afford another war with us, and will maintain our position as the wealthiest and most enlightened nation in the world!

Aro · January 13, 2003, 08:02

Thud is great, but Shiber has my full support.

Thud · January 13, 2003, 22:45

Let's get some conversation going on here. Who's voting for who? Why? What did I do so right to make this election this close?

Btw, for all who have not voted: Shiber advocates an agressive policy stance, while I go for "olive branch diplomacy".

Hot Mustard · January 13, 2003, 23:27

Quote:

Originally posted by Thud
Let's get some conversation going on here. Who's voting for who? Why? What did I do so right to make this election this close?

Btw, for all who have not voted: Shiber advocates an agressive policy stance, while I go for "olive branch diplomacy".

FYI, I voted for you Thud.

Perhaps I shouldn't say so publicly, but I was not impressed with Shiber's treatment of the VP situation last term and will not support that type of tempermant in cabinet.

Shiber · January 14, 2003, 05:11

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Originally posted by Thud
Let's get some conversation going on here. Who's voting for who? Why? What did I do so right to make this election this close?

Btw, for all who have not voted: Shiber advocates an agressive policy stance, while I go for "olive branch diplomacy".

Regardless of what Thud says, I am not 'aggressive'. I do intend to charge full price from the rest of the civs for the techs and luxuries that we'll sell them. I do not intend to humiliate the other civs, should the public decide not to go for a diplomatic victory (while you seem rather bent on it, I leave our options open). I do intend to work with the SMC to gain monopoly over as many luxuries as possible, so that in the event that the senate will decide to go to war against a certain civ, we will be able to bring down their government and prepare the grounds for our attack.
However, in case that the senate decides to win the game diplomatically, I have a solid plan in mind on how we can achieve that. Firstly, I will order our envoys to offer our techs, luxuries or resources to the AI civs that are least fond of us for rediculous prices. Second, I will sign MPPs, RoPs and trade deals with the AI civs immediately before the UN voting.
I believe that we don't have to be wussy to win diplomatically, just calculated, and that is what I intend to do should the senate choose the diplomatic victory option.

As for your self-described 'olive branch diplomacy', I'd like to hear more about it.

Panag · January 14, 2003, 06:50

hi ,

may the best one win

have a nice day

Shiber · January 14, 2003, 09:52

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Originally posted by Meshelic
Vote Shiber! His aggressive foreign policies will ensure that our neighbors could never afford another war with us, and will maintain our position as the wealthiest and most enlightened nation in the world!

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Originally posted by Aro
Thud is great, but Shiber has my full support.

Thank you Meshelic and Aro! You both are very kind.

As I have explained in the FAM campaign thread, my versatile policy will get us to where we want to be. If we want peace, then I will make sure that no nation will be able to support a war against us. If we want war, then I will make sure that we can weaken our chosen enemy as much as possible before we march in with tanks, and thus spend less money on military and save money for rushing city improvements.

GodKing · January 14, 2003, 14:39

Close......

Spiffor · January 14, 2003, 14:45

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Originally posted by GodKing
Close......

That was the scariest comment in this thread

I thought the poll was closed already

jdd2007 · January 14, 2003, 16:15

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Originally posted by Thud
Let's get some conversation going on here. Who's voting for who? Why? What did I do so right to make this election this close?

Btw, for all who have not voted: Shiber advocates an agressive policy stance, while I go for "olive branch diplomacy".

uh, you just gave my vote to him.

GhengisFarb™ · January 14, 2003, 16:18

Are there any offices in our government Thud hasn't run for?

realpolitic · January 14, 2003, 16:52

I voted Shiber we'll be getting plenty of cash for what we need, so we shouldn't be subsidizing potential competion. I don't think Shiber can be aggessive in this post, I do belive this should be a peaceful "niche" in our history (after the wars with Germany and I hope England)

Thud · January 14, 2003, 19:20

Actually Ghengis, every position I've run for I've been elected to (SMC and MoS). I'll probably run again for FAM, I'm just that stubborn.

Thank you for your support E_T and Dejon!

Nimitz · January 15, 2003, 13:11

Go thud you can win this.

Meshelic · January 15, 2003, 16:38

C'mon Shiber....

Aro · January 15, 2003, 16:42

Go, Shiber... a few more hours!

Arnelos · January 15, 2003, 17:26

Both highly qualified candidates. I just hope it stays close

Panzer32 · January 15, 2003, 23:05

ooh! Shiber pulls it off by a hair!!!

Aro · January 15, 2003, 23:08

Great Shiber! This will be a fantastic term...

My congratulations, man!

Arnelos · January 15, 2003, 23:19

Congrats, Shiber.

Though Thud is a member of my party, you know that I've been trying to get you to run for an office for 3 terms now.

I'm glad you finally ran!

I think you'll make an awesome Foreign Affairs Minister.

Thud · January 15, 2003, 23:27

Congrats Shiber!

I know you'll make a great FAM. I actually support your policies, they make just as much sense as mine do.

MrWhereItsAt · January 15, 2003, 23:29

Congrats, Shiber. Glad to see my late vote wouldn't have made a difference.

Meshelic · January 16, 2003, 00:48

Ah Shiber I'm proud of you man!

Shiber · January 16, 2003, 06:55

Thud, running against you was probably the greatest challenge I could have expected when I announced my candidancy to the position of FAM. I must say that you gave an admirable fight!
I'm looking forward to a successful term, and should I run for a government job next term as well, I will look forward to working alongside you (I certainly wouldn't like to run against you again! I barely pulled off this one... whew)

My thanks and ever-lasting appreciation go out to everyone who supported me throughout the race, as well as to those who presented challenging counter-arguments, and thus have made the race much more interesting! Nowadays, we are short of devoted players due to PTW/multisite-DG drainage, so every vote, every voice and every post counts! (pun intended)

Once again, thank you all. May we march forward, together, to a better future! (kitsch not intended)

Panag · January 16, 2003, 11:56

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Originally posted by Shiber

Thud, running against you was probably the greatest challenge I could have expected when I announced my candidancy to the position of FAM. I must say that you gave an admirable fight!
I'm looking forward to a successful term, and should I run for a government job next term as well, I will look forward to working alongside you (I certainly wouldn't like to run against you again! I barely pulled off this one... whew)

My thanks and ever-lasting appreciation go out to everyone who supported me throughout the race, as well as to those who presented challenging counter-arguments, and thus have made the race much more interesting! Nowadays, we are short of devoted players due to PTW/multisite-DG drainage, so every vote, every voice and every post counts! (pun intended)

Once again, thank you all. May we march forward, together, to a better future! (kitsch not intended)

hi ,

so , are the two of you going to work together

have a nice day

Shiber · January 16, 2003, 12:12

At the moment I don't suppose I'll need a deputy, but should I find that I do need help, Thud would certainly be the first one I'll ask to be my deputy.