January 14, 2003, 17:23
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Civ leaders talk funny!
How many like the wise cracks the civ leaders make during diplomacy, like catherine the great saying "increase your medication!"?
At first it is kinda cute but now I get annoyed by it. I wish the civ leaders talked more like real life leaders, it would make diplomacy feel more real. The civ2 and SMAC leaders spoke normally and diplomacy felt much more real. Why do the civ3 leaders have be constantly sarcastic and funny all the time?
Is there a way to edit the diplomacy messages by any chances?
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January 14, 2003, 17:46
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I honestly don't care either way. I think it's funny, but I focus on the deal and not what is being said to me.
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January 14, 2003, 18:17
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The leaders responses are in a text file somewhere. AFAIK it is possible to edit it but you would have to be careful.
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January 14, 2003, 18:32
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Re: Civ leaders talk funny!
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Originally posted by The diplomat
Is there a way to edit the diplomacy messages by any chances?
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Try the Diplomacy.txt file.
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January 14, 2003, 19:09
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Making Cleo say: "You're goddamn stupid!" everytime you seek for a fair deal would be pretty amusing
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January 14, 2003, 19:11
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Re: Civ leaders talk funny!
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Originally posted by The diplomat
How many like the wise cracks the civ leaders make during diplomacy, like catherine the great saying "increase your medication!"?
At first it is kinda cute but now I get annoyed by it. I wish the civ leaders talked more like real life leaders, it would make diplomacy feel more real. The civ2 and SMAC leaders spoke normally and diplomacy felt much more real. Why do the civ3 leaders have be constantly sarcastic and funny all the time?
Is there a way to edit the diplomacy messages by any chances?
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Sometimes i think that is the way it is in real life. You know, in public they make elaborfate speeches and such, and then they go into a closed door meeting and cuss each other out. Well, maybe not, but I imagine they are not overly formal.
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January 14, 2003, 20:56
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I actually find it funny, and it goes with their cartoonish faces. It just makes me laugh seeing Hammurabi plead for mercy when I'm about to capture his last city.
Especially hilarious was the occasioal "All your base are belong to us!" by Tokugawa of the Japanese. I was cracking up the first time I saw it. 
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January 14, 2003, 21:07
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Originally posted by raguil_79
I actually find it funny, and it goes with their cartoonish faces. It just makes me laugh seeing Hammurabi plead for mercy when I'm about to capture his last city.
Especially hilarious was the occasioal "All your base are belong to us!" by Tokugawa of the Japanese. I was cracking up the first time I saw it.
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I like some of Hannibals comments. He's got something like "Buck the System!" or thereabouts.
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January 14, 2003, 21:59
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Some of them are really good, but to be honest I harly notice them anymore. I would be nice to have a more variety of answers I suppose 
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January 15, 2003, 06:54
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Originally posted by alva
Some of them are really good, but to be honest I harly notice them anymore. I would be nice to have a more variety of answers I suppose
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I fully agree. Four or five different answers for each situation would make the diplomatic dialogues less tiresome.
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January 15, 2003, 08:21
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If the leaders wouldn't talk funny, the diplomatic negotiations would have been boring from the beginning.
Funny talk is spice, not rice.
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January 15, 2003, 08:56
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Those were the days, when I still read this stuff...
Three words: Increase your medication!
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January 15, 2003, 10:19
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Originally posted by aaglo
If the leaders wouldn't talk funny, the diplomatic negotiations would have been boring from the beginning.
Funny talk is spice, not rice.
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I disagree: civ2 did not have funny stuff in diplomacy and it't diplomacy was not boring! SMAC did not do this either and it's diplomacy was far from boring! It is possible to have serious diplomacy that is not boring. You don't have to make the leaders sound like idiots to make things interesting.
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January 15, 2003, 11:47
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lol
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January 15, 2003, 11:47
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January 15, 2003, 11:48
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January 15, 2003, 13:59
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Re: Civ leaders talk funny!
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Originally posted by The diplomat
Is there a way to edit the diplomacy messages by any chances?
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yep, either edit the text-file as mentioned or check out the diplomacy editor it the files-section or the utils-section at CFC
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January 15, 2003, 14:02
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Hm, now I see why fg took a one-week trip to Mingapulco...
Back on topic: I think that funny diplomacy is not bad, I have fun with some of the silly things the leaders say, but I'd like to see more variety in their answers. When Liz says for the empteenth time that she's late for her milk bath, it's not funny anymore. 
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January 15, 2003, 14:11
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Somehow, I doubt it would be more entertaining or interesting hearing her say some mundane phrase like "please hurry up" for the empteenth time either...
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January 15, 2003, 17:57
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They tend to PO me at times with their smart punk attitudes! Sometimes I end up having a war just because I don't like their attitude and what they said to me. Its like...ok you want to talk all of that trash, I am going to teach you now! Then I get even more angry at them if they start beating me in the battle 
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January 15, 2003, 18:11
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January 16, 2003, 06:44
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"Rome is in urgent need of assistance! etc. "
That was quite confusing. Caesar seemed so polite, I gave him what he wanted! Only happy to help a friend in need.
But then he replied something about us realizing our place as a vassal of the empire or someting... Grrr
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January 16, 2003, 06:53
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Originally posted by cyclotron7
Somehow, I doubt it would be more entertaining or interesting hearing her say some mundane phrase like "please hurry up" for the empteenth time either...
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aha, but I'm not talking about "mundane" phrases... she could still talk funny things, I just wanted some more variety. She could say something about being late to watch the latest Shakespeare's play (if in the correct time frame) or...
Hm, this is an interesting idea. Leaders that would say funny things matching the epoch of the conversation. If the game were in the 1700-1800 period (it has to be a extended period like that), Joan could say something like: "Since I joined the French Revolution, I've been pretty busy cutting some heads down, so hurry up!"...
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January 16, 2003, 09:58
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Excellent idea Alex 
Educational and fun 
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January 17, 2003, 06:02
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Having Joan d'Arc join the French Revolution is of course very historically correct.
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January 17, 2003, 09:09
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Having Joan d'Arc join the French Revolution is of course very historically correct.
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Hey, I'm just trying to give some flavor to the diplomacy... 
And you have to agree that Joan is sexier than some bloodthirsty jacobins...
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January 17, 2003, 09:26
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Joan isn't quite as sexy in her Armie shirt and shaved head in modern times
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