Miriam's research is locked

Ned · January 20, 2003, 20:14

I never noticed this before, but Miriam's research appears to be locked at -2, just as Wang's efficiency appears to be locked at 0.

I noticed this only on my current game where I am running Miriam as Demo, Green, Wealth, and Cybernetic. This should yield a research rate of 0. But it remains at -2.

I don't recall ever seeing this posted here before.

BTW, what happens when she is running Fundy? Does research remain at -2? (I will check this tonight.)

Flubber · January 20, 2003, 21:01

I have never seen that noted before -- I play Miriam infrequently myself but I would have remembered if someone posted that.

Googlie · January 20, 2003, 22:37

Research goes from -2 to -4 when running Fundy. It drops back to -2 when changed to Cybernetic, and to 0 if Fundy is then removed

(You can check all this thru the scenario editor)

Miriam can never be SE research positive, as knowledge (giving a +2 research) is her aversion - she can't run it)

G.

Ned · January 20, 2003, 23:02

Quote:

Originally posted by Googlie
Research goes from -2 to -4 when running Fundy. It drops back to -2 when changed to Cybernetic, and to 0 if Fundy is then removed

(You can check all this thru the scenario editor)

Miriam can never be SE research positive, as knowledge (giving a +2 research) is her aversion - she can't run it)

G.

Maybe that's why my current game crashed. It was violating the rules.

I'll double-check the game tonight and post it so that seeing is believing. No pun intended.

Archaic · January 20, 2003, 23:54

How was it violating the rules? You had a 0, which should be fine.

Capt Dizle · January 21, 2003, 00:26

Ned said he was locked at -2. Anyway, Mir might not be so smart but she is a great thief.

Ned · January 21, 2003, 00:50

Quote:

Originally posted by jimmytrick
Ned said he was locked at -2. Anyway, Mir might not be so smart but she is a great thief.

Sorry, mea culpa. When I got home I checked it out. It does indeed change to 0 with Cybernetic.

I must have been seeing things. Still, it would be cool if Miriam could run Fundy without the -2 research penalty.

Mongoose · January 21, 2003, 01:32

Right. It would be cool if Morgan could run Free Market without the -5 POLICE, too.

MariOne · January 21, 2003, 06:04

Ned playing and posting again, zsozso coming back, JT resurfacing...

I smell an imminent FORUM CRISIS!

Ned · January 21, 2003, 12:41

MariOne, There is no game quite like SMACx. I really enjoy playing this game. Ned

Method · January 21, 2003, 17:57

Quote:

Originally posted by MariOne
Ned playing and posting again, zsozso coming back, JT resurfacing...

I smell an imminent FORUM CRISIS!

now all we need is for you all to join to ACDG in order to secure more support of free market

RedFred · January 21, 2003, 19:33

Good to see some familiar names. I'll have to call here more often.

I confess to still disliking playing Miriam as well as the Aliens on random faction games.

Flubber · January 21, 2003, 20:07

Quote:

Originally posted by TKG

now all we need is for you all to join to ACDG in order to secure more support of free market

Yeah I was over there and saw that the place is dominated by "planners" who seem to think FM is the road to catastrophe.

Method · January 21, 2003, 20:53

mostly planneders who want to switch to green at some point...

GeneralTacticus · January 22, 2003, 07:11

Quote:

now all we need is for you all to join to ACDG in order to secure more support of free market

Yes please! We lost the last poll on FM by only 3, so if we can get a few more pro-FM players involved, we'll have our revenge

Archaic · January 22, 2003, 07:26

/me grins at the prospect

Seriously, if we had some name names in there such as yourselves, all voting and campaigning for FM, it'd make a massive difference. There's just no convincing some of these hippies though.

GeneralTacticus · January 22, 2003, 07:29

Bah. As long as we have more votes than them, it won't matter.

Archaic · January 22, 2003, 10:46

Yes, well, let's just hope we have more votes this time. The "CNN Special Documentry" should help with that........

lucky22 · January 23, 2003, 20:58

"Hippies"?? Why, I oughta...

Maniac · January 23, 2003, 21:41

Or how a thread about Miriam can evolve to a fascist conspiracy.

Maniac · January 23, 2003, 21:46

Quote:

Originally posted by Archaic
There's just no convincing some of these hippies though.

Why can we help it we are all ignorant fools who don't understand you have valid claims about knowing the Absolute Truth?

GeneralTacticus · January 23, 2003, 22:22

If this was a fascist conspiracy, we'd be plotting to have kidnapped from your homes in the night and never ehard from again.

Maniac · January 24, 2003, 15:01

You missed the smilie in my first post.

Also notice the absence of such a smilie in my second post.

Ned · January 24, 2003, 15:38

Miriam is probably my favorite faction to play. She is always a tough AI competitor. A very "charming" lady, very much in the mold of Osama bin Laden.

Alinestra Covelia · January 25, 2003, 12:52

Does anybody else think the Believer symbol looks a bit like a Southpark character?

Ivellios · January 25, 2003, 13:56

Yes, it's very much like Kenny but some silly symbol in his head. Maybe they fired it into Kenny's head during an episode.

OH MY GOD THEY MADE KENNY RELIGIOUS! BASTARDS!

Or not.

Dr Jekyll · January 29, 2003, 17:13

Free Market = TEH SUX.

I mostly play the Gaians, so I don't get many chances to use it, but I don't anyway. I have the unfortunate tendency to carry my personal values over to the game.

DuncanK · January 29, 2003, 19:44

Quote:

Originally posted by Ned
Miriam is probably my favorite faction to play. She is always a tough AI competitor. A very "charming" lady, very much in the mold of Osama bin Laden.

It's my favorite faction to play also Ned. I thought you might get a kick out of that.

The Mad Monk · January 29, 2003, 19:52

Quote:

Originally posted by Dr Jekyll
Free Market = TEH SUX.

I mostly play the Gaians, so I don't get many chances to use it, but I don't anyway. I have the unfortunate tendency to carry my personal values over to the game.

I do to -- so I usually move from planned to free market ASAP (As Soon As Practical).

CEO Aaron · January 29, 2003, 20:10

Though I am a staunch Morganite, when taking a break from Builder-style play, Miriam is, hands down, my favorite. Her attack and support bonuses are stupendously useful in just overwhelming your foes. Often I'll run her like a builder and just use my extra support, pre-clean, to field an army of formers, and just pave my way to greatness.

Her only real drawback is that you'll almost certainly get beaten out to some of the early wonders, unless you're a) lucky and b) very on the ball with your probe teams. If you don't have _everyone_ infiltrated as Miriam, you're doing something seriously wrong.