Number Of Civilizations! - Page 2

Locutus · January 23, 2003, 07:34

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Originally posted by Devil of Truth
Good guess. Regtig = werkelijk.

Yeah, that's not hard to guess. Afrikaans is just regular Dutch only with loads and loads of typos

90% of Afrikaans can be understood by Dutch people without too much effort (in this case 'regtig' comes from the German/Medieval Dutch word 'richtig' which means the same thing).

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You said I sound Flemish, why? How is the spelling or grammar different? (Excuse my ignorance)

Flemish is officially identical to Dutch, but Flemish people formulate their sentences a little more... cumbersome, roundabout ('woorden gebruiken' instead of 'spreken') and it's a bit more formal (you used 'u' instead of 'jullie', Dutch people are rude and only use 'u' if it's absolutely necessary

). Also, you used 'erkent' where you meant to say 'herkent' (erkennen = recognize as in acknowledge, herkennen = recognize as in identify), which would be a typical Flemish mistake as they tend to use the French silent h sometimes in spoken language. Finally, the Flemish usage of words is sometimes slightly differently from Dutch, which could theoretically apply to 'erkennen' as well, though I doubt it actually does.

Flemish is a bit more poetic, I suppose (which probably explains why there are far more native-speaking Flemish poets/song-writers/singers/etc than Dutch ones

), while Dutch is more to the point. A Dutch person would have simply said 'Dan zal ik een taal spreken die jullie ook niet kennen.'

But that's probably a lot more than you wanted to know

Bah! I wanna go to Brazil too!

Devil of Truth · January 23, 2003, 09:13

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Originally posted by Locutus
But that's probably a lot more than you wanted to know

Helemaal niet. Eigenlijk zeer interessant. Dank u.

Tamerlin · January 23, 2003, 09:30

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Originally posted by Devil of Truth
Helemaal niet. Eigenlijk zeer interessant. Dank u.

I agree. Thanks Locutus.

Pedrunn · January 23, 2003, 10:05

Gunnar Thor · January 25, 2003, 18:59

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Originally posted by ískallin
Iss ég hef flottasta leynimálið hitt er bara eitthvað meiningarlaust bull, ekki satt allir íslendingar sem ekki segja orð?

Jújú, nákvæmlega.

Tamerlin · January 25, 2003, 22:26

Quel charabia!

I guess even Locutus doesn't know what it means.

Devil of Truth · January 26, 2003, 05:57

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Originally posted by Tamerlin
Quel charabia!

I guess even Locutus doesn't know what it means.

Oui. What nonsense, hey

? You don’t know how right you actually are. I think that was basically what ískallin was saying, and Gunnar Thor agreed.

Zacharov · January 26, 2003, 14:35

Sy sprekken allegear har eigen bargedútsk. Ik ferstea dêr neat mear fan. It is allegear sljochtweihinne. Ik tocht dat dit oer CTP2 gie, mar blykbar ha ik mysels fersint. Kinne wy werom nei it tema gean. Oars wurdst it neat mei dizze thread. It is net komysk mear.

"bûter, brea en griene tsiis, wa dat net sizze kin is gjin oprjochte Frys." Grutte Pier

Tamerlin · January 26, 2003, 14:44

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Originally posted by Devil of Truth
Oui. What nonsense, hey

? You don’t know how right you actually are. I think that was basically what ískallin was saying, and Gunnar Thor agreed.

Ca n'est pas juste !

Yes, it is not fair, everybody understands when I speak french...

I don't want to play with you anymore...

Devil of Truth · January 27, 2003, 05:43

C'est un petit monde, Tamerlin.

Pedrunn · January 27, 2003, 06:29

even more

Tamerlin · January 27, 2003, 10:24

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Originally posted by Devil of Truth
C'est un petit monde, Tamerlin.

Immortal Wombat · January 27, 2003, 11:51

Ceci n'est pas un monde

Dauphin · January 27, 2003, 12:43

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Originally posted by Tamerlin

Ca n'est pas juste !

Yes, it is not fair, everybody understands when I speak french...

I don't want to play with you anymore...

Nous tous parlons le français couramment.

Dauphin · January 27, 2003, 12:48

BTW All this foreign talk is against forum rules.

Tamerlin · January 27, 2003, 13:33

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Originally posted by Big Crunch
Nous tous parlons le français couramment.

Excellent, cela signifie donc que je peux me dispenser d'écrire en Anglais dans les forums Apolyton.

Devil of Truth · January 28, 2003, 04:59

Non. Apparemment il est impoli et contre les règles!

Tamerlin · January 28, 2003, 07:43

OK, I won't do it again!

But it's not fair...

Tamerlin · January 28, 2003, 07:45

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Originally posted by Devil of Truth
Non. Apparemment il est impoli et contre les règles!

BtW, Replace "il" by "cela" and your sentence is perfect.

Locutus · January 28, 2003, 10:03

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Originally posted by Zacharov
Sy sprekken allegear har eigen bargedútsk. Ik ferstea dêr neat mear fan. It is allegear sljochtweihinne. Ik tocht dat dit oer CTP2 gie, mar blykbar ha ik mysels fersint. Kinne wy werom nei it tema gean. Oars wurdst it neat mei dizze thread. It is net komysk mear.

"bûter, brea en griene tsiis, wa dat net sizze kin is gjin oprjochte Frys." Grutte Pier

There are problably less than half a dozen people on all of Apolyton can actually make sense of that, but I think I get the stretch of it

I guess Frisian and Twents are not all *that* dissimilar

No, this thread seems to have left CtP2-related topics a long time ago, you got that right

Tamerlin · January 28, 2003, 11:55

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Originally posted by Locutus

There are problably less than half a dozen people on all of Apolyton can actually make sense of that, but I think I get the stretch of it

I guess Frisian and Twents are not all *that* dissimilar

No, this thread seems to have left CtP2-related topics a long time ago, you got that right

Frisian and Twents ?

Even when you speak English I can't understand.

Dauphin · January 28, 2003, 12:23

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Originally posted by Devil of Truth
Non. Apparemment il est impoli et contre les règles!

Vous pouvez parler finlandais cependant. Son non juste .

Dauphin · January 28, 2003, 12:29

As I understad it, Frisian and Twente are different dialects of Dutch.

Tamerlin · January 28, 2003, 12:49

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Originally posted by Big Crunch

Vous pouvez parler finlandais cependant.

How come we can speak Finnish and not French? Isn't it equally forbidden by the rules?

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Son non juste .

The first sentence is perfect but I don't understand what you mean with the second one. Is it "it's not fair"? In this case you should write : "ce n'est pas juste or (if you want to give it a childish touch) "c'est pas juste!".

Locutus · January 28, 2003, 13:39

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Originally posted by Big Crunch
As I understad it, Frisian and Twente are different dialects of Dutch.

Almost

Frisian and Twents (Twente is the region, Twents the language) are dialects in the Netherlands. They're not dialects of the Dutch language. Of course, over the course of the past dozen or so centuries, Dutch had a huge impact on both dialects, but they're not Dutch in origin. Twents is a Lower Saxon (= ~German) dialect and if I'm not mistaken Frisian is a language in it's own, not a dialect of any other language (though Scandinavian languages come closest). In fact, English has strong Frisian influences, stronger than most other Germanic influences. So if anything, English is actually a dialect of Frisian

Dauphin · January 28, 2003, 16:34

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Originally posted by Tamerlin
The first sentence is perfect but I don't understand what you mean with the second one. Is it "it's not fair"? In this case you should write : "ce n'est pas juste or (if you want to give it a childish touch) "c'est pas juste!".

I had an attack of stupidity is all.

Like the time I forgot gold fish was poisson rouge and translated it literally from English to "poisson d'or". I got a funny look that time too.

Dauphin · January 28, 2003, 16:42

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Originally posted by Tamerlin

How come we can speak Finnish and not French? Isn't it equally forbidden by the rules?

There is a 'grandfather' rule. In the OT the Finns had their own language thread. When the new rule about languages came into effect they were specifically exempted so as not to close down the suomithreadi.

Tamerlin · January 28, 2003, 20:58

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Originally posted by Locutus
Almost

Frisian and Twents (Twente is the region, Twents the language) are dialects in the Netherlands. They're not dialects of the Dutch language. Of course, over the course of the past dozen or so centuries, Dutch had a huge impact on both dialects, but they're not Dutch in origin. Twents is a Lower Saxon (= ~German) dialect and if I'm not mistaken Frisian is a language in it's own, not a dialect of any other language (though Scandinavian languages come closest). In fact, English has strong Frisian influences, stronger than most other Germanic influences.

Thanks for the explanation Locutus, it reminds me of the time two languages were in use in France, the Oc tongue (in southern France) and the Oil tongue (in Northern France). I remember the old persons talked what we named the Patois when I was young, it's now called the Occitan and is almost no more in use.

The Patois was different from region to region and a whole part of France is still called the Occitanie (Toulouse is a part of it and one of its emblems is the Occitan Cross) while a neighbouring one is named the Languedoc which can be translated as Oc Tongue.

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So if anything, English is actually a dialect of Frisian

Here is the Occitan Cross:

Tamerlin · January 28, 2003, 21:02

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Originally posted by Big Crunch
I had an attack of stupidity is all.

Don't worry, some of my mistakes in English would make you feel like a Super Genius.

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Like the time I forgot gold fish was poisson rouge and translated it literally from English to "poisson d'or". I got a funny look that time too.

Tamerlin · January 28, 2003, 21:04

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Originally posted by Big Crunch
There is a 'grandfather' rule. In the OT the Finns had their own language thread. When the new rule about languages came into effect they were specifically exempted so as not to close down the suomithreadi.

C'est pas juste !

But it is very cool anyway.