Arcology International Research Programme

red_jon · January 21, 2003, 08:56

As some of you may know, The Federation of Redfern is experiencing some difficulties in terms of population densities within city limits and have been trying to look into viable solutions.

We would like to propose an international research programme for Arcologies, which we feel would better manage population in particularly crowded areas accross Apolyton, whilst making sure citizens are safe and comfortable.

More information can be found here -

http://www.arcosanti.org/arcology/a=...a/habitat.html

http://www.peagreenboat.com/arcology/

Please vote yes, to make Apolyton a happier, healthier place.

red_jon · January 21, 2003, 08:59

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Archaic · January 21, 2003, 09:22

Really, the research is already established. It's a feasible project. But no one has enough funds to create one. Perhaps with advances in engineering and architecture, they might become possible for the (un)common nation.

Az · January 21, 2003, 12:19

hmm sounds good. let me think about it.

Urban Ranger · January 21, 2003, 12:21

These make excellent targets in a war and have huge problems with fire.

I urge you to have second thoughts.

Archaic · January 21, 2003, 12:32

War - Not an issue if they're sufficiently within your territory and protected. Enough anti-aircraft and missile defence, and you're fine.

Fire - The same could be said about skyscrapers. The fire problems can be sorted by the engineering groups involved in the project.

Az · January 21, 2003, 14:44

the Nooslandian representative has brought up some important points. In any other time, I'd say that the benefits outweigh the risks, however, in these dangerous worrisome times, I think that equipping my soldiers with new electronic equipment, and building laser AA defences comes first.

I must admit that these are very important projects, in the long term.

Giovanni Wine · January 21, 2003, 15:10

The Kingdom of Wine says:

Those structures are too big and not very nice to see. They would ruin the look of our ancient\medieval and reinessance cities.

Saluti

red_jon · January 21, 2003, 17:13

The risks of fire are already apparent in the vast majority of
Redfern's buildings - the largest tower in the Federation, the Red Ruby Tower holds 20,000 office workers and 10,000 residents at its peak.

Kassiopeia · January 21, 2003, 17:41

I'm in

Method · January 21, 2003, 17:44

looks cool, though Tea Kaygia is very large, and does not have problems with where to stick people

Donegeal · January 21, 2003, 20:53

Ok, still kinda new to NationStates. How does voting for something like this effect the game/ my nation? Or is this just RP?

GeneralTacticus · January 21, 2003, 21:04

It's all just RP. Everything on this forum is RP.

Skanky Burns · January 21, 2003, 21:42

Imagine throwing a party in that building!
The Empire of Drunken Macaque approves.

Mr. President · January 22, 2003, 00:30

Hell yeah.

Starchild · January 22, 2003, 13:09

The Dominion of Human resources is highly interested in the construction of multiple arcologies.

OOC: Everyone say it with me now....da Ministry of Truth, da Ministry of Luv, da Ministry of Peace and da Ministry of Pleny!

Urban Ranger · January 22, 2003, 13:25

Even when you build them in the core of your country, you cannot avoid long range ballistic and cruise missiles. What's even more worrying are terrorist attacks. If you think World Trade Centre was bad, these things are disasters waiting to happen, with unimaginable consequences. You will not have enough emergency facilities to deal with one.

Please, think of the people.

Starchild · January 22, 2003, 17:00

People are irrelevant in pursuit of the Greater Construct of Eternal Paradigms.

Jack_www · January 24, 2003, 02:19

Well when you run out of land for people what are you to do?? You have to put them somewhere. You could design a arco that could withstand many of the threats you listed, or give enough time to evacuate the people inside.

red_jon · January 24, 2003, 09:03

Our towers are far more vunerable to attack than an arcology would be.

Az · January 24, 2003, 11:53

I warn you. The AI zombified SU will make quick work of your arcologies.

Thiorn · January 24, 2003, 14:55

I agree with this issue. Although my nation, the FTR, has no population havoc, there is nothing wrong in prevention.
Furthermore, Arcologies are not only a good choice for overpopulated areas, but a very good choice when you are experiencing ecological troubles due to population. Sometimes is good to keep your people is concealed areas than to have it scattered in wide areas of space.

Skanky Burns · January 24, 2003, 21:40

The Empire of Drunken Macaque sees that this technology could quickly become necessary. Already our population has almost doubled in the past 3 days (from 4M to 7M). Although it will be some time before these arcologies will be necessary, it will also be some time before they are researched sufficiently to begin construction. We say, start researching them now!

Az · January 25, 2003, 10:43

These are the worries of ocean-locked nations. Real nations use landgrab to solve this problem

in the last 4 days, we've grown from 30 million to 67 million.

Thiorn · January 25, 2003, 12:09

But the overpopulation would also become a problem for not-so-land-gifted nation, like the case of the FTR, in which a notorious amount of territory is occupied by inhospitable mountains. The population has been rapidly growing in the few considerably fertile areas and in the capital city.

Provost Harrison · January 25, 2003, 17:18

We like the concept and the People's Republic Of East Yorkshire is embarking on the arcological construction shown in the picture below. It requires a great expenditure on behalf of the central government, but we believe that if successful it will put us at the front of such engineering, and will bring in more money to our nation than the initial cost. Such a construction will be completed by 2015, even with a substantial civil engineering team.

Az · January 26, 2003, 08:23

amazing concept, PREY, but I can't afford it now. I wouldn't be able to afford the increased military expenditure if I'd build that.

Odin · January 26, 2003, 22:45

I'm In. My nation is a couple volcanic rocks about the size of Iceland, and covered with protected forests. If we go out we will harm the enviroment of our luxurious forests, so going up is a logical alternative. The Raganarok parliment has already set up a task force to plan several Arcos within the next 20 years and our combined knoledge will really speed up that process. The People's Republic of Raganarok is renouned for the very stong Raganian Steel, one of the few materials strong enough to resist a terrorist attack. Raganian Steel is a special alloy of Iron, Magnesium, Titanium, Wolfram, (Tungsten) Chromium, and Cerium that is strong, yet has a high tensile stength.

Thiorn · January 26, 2003, 22:55

The FTR gave green light for the construction of the Hyper Building, a megametropolitan complex, in the western areas of the capital city of Adranor.
It is not yet clear how long will the project take, but estimations throw results quite satisfactory.

Odin · January 26, 2003, 23:10

SWEET ARCO!!!

We have started constuction of a 220 story building with 10 times the space of the PETRONAS Towers.

(It is also very wide.) It will house 30,000 people.