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Old January 24, 2003, 15:58   #1
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Turnchat sterting now
Turnchat starting now. I'm busy with DM stuff, more 20~30 min and I'll post a save
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Old January 24, 2003, 16:10   #2
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Re: Turnchat sterting now
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Obviously we have to build more libraries and universities.
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Old January 24, 2003, 16:18   #4
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Upon request by members of the Senate, SMC Meshelic spoke this in a speech upon his inaguration:

"My fellow Apolytonians!

As Apolytonia's newly-elected Supreme Military Commander, I vow to uphold the proud and glorious tradition set forth by my predecessors Uberkrux, Aggie and E_T. To carry out my duties in the best interests of the nation, and to act fully in accordance to the laws of the land. I thank my fellow Senators for allowing me this great opportunity to serve in such a role as Commander of the military, an important role, and thank the Great Banana for guiding my path to victory....

May Apolytonia remain strong, secure, indivisible, and a nation to which all other nations look towards as a securer of peace, a defender of those without defense, and a steadfast opponent to rogue nations that would oppose us. May our nation stand the test of time! Long live Apolytonia!

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Old January 24, 2003, 16:23   #5
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Old January 24, 2003, 16:50   #6
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Here's the save with the change in queues an WF. PW not done yet.

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worker wall in Uber isle


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I found it! This is the wrong save

Because the resolution of my screen, I had to quit the game to post the save above, Banana of the Egyptians 1325 DM ad.sav (I mess my desktop and lose the photoshop configurations if I don't quit). When I loaded the save again to continue with the game (first I edited the Civ3 ini file with the line KeepRes=1, to avoid the resolution problem), I LOADED THE WRONG SAVE. I loaded the save posted by E_T in the last chat, Banana of the Egyptians 1325 ad gl.sav, instead of Banana of the Egyptians 1325 DM ad.sav. I did the worker wall in Uber Isle normally, founded Neo Frankfurt normally, and minor stuff, saved as Banana of the Egyptians 1325, workers ad.sav and posted this #%&&** save. No excuses, just trying to figure out what happened.
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Old January 24, 2003, 17:56   #8
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Mesh, here is the save
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Old January 24, 2003, 18:17   #9
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Old January 24, 2003, 18:45   #10
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Looks like I won't be able to monitor the rest of the turn chat from here.

Please consult with the Highest ranking Regional Governor present (see DM orders) if needed.

I'll check back Monday; the only thing that would cause a major shakeup in DM queues for the next turn chat would be peace with Germany.
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I posted the wrong save, guys, and the queues are messed up. Aggie is working on that now.
Btw, if someone wanrts to start an impeachment thread, I'll make it topped!
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Old January 24, 2003, 21:48   #14
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Btw, if someone wanrts to start an impeachment thread, I'll make it topped!
Don't take this seriously folks, please....
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FORTRESS UBER, CONQUEST LEIPZIG
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Operation "Fortress Uber" put into effect - the defense of Uber Isle against invading Japanese forces.

Operation "Iron Cross" - the assault on Leipzig is a success, the city has fallen and is now in our hands.
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Here's the log from the chat (at least most of it), I got cut off about 1/5 into it, but most all of it's there....
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Old January 25, 2003, 01:10   #18
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A short report:

The chat was interrupted in the middle of the turn 1330 AD, after a mistake. I did the DM stuff (a lot of work! ), about 1 hour working. I posted the save for SMC moves and the SMC post it back after finished. With the new save loaded, I ended the turn. Then, I noticed that the queues were messed... All the queue's changes were lost, and the WF changes too.

That means, I missed some orders (tomorrow I'll detail this). I suppose four or five orders about queues. Could be more, but I don’t think so. This means a measurable delay in our efforts to minimize war weariness.

Of course, the missed changes in the WF stuff means losses to our productivity, commerce and growth. When I pushed the space bar to end the turn, this waste becomes irreversible. I apologize to joncnunn and the RA's for this.

I made the mistake probably when I posted the save for the SMC for the first time. I'll check it tomorrow.

The losses in shields, commerce and growth are measurable, but are small. The queues are more serious, IMO. The WF location can't cause so much harm in one turn, in general. But if we should change a hospital to a Police station, and this not happens, we make our war weariness problem bigger. This (or similar) happened four, five times.

So... ?

IMHO (I said humble, notice that ), I didn't screw up. But I lost the time of the Ministers, Justices and Senators presents at the chat... Not to mention my own time...

Anyway, I apologize to all those people for the mistake.

Thanks Aggie, for the inestimable help correcting the queues, and Mesh, for take Leipzig ( )and for all support.

Thank you all, Senators and Justices, for the patience.

An important note: the WF location needs to be checked and compared with the orders. I'll do this tomorrow, and make the corrections on the save. The turn isn't ended yet, and any change is reversible. The orders about workers are done in part, but not completely.

The report tomorrow will be more game-related, with info about units, enemy moves, conquests (Leipzig) and threats to our nation. Like the Jap Fleet about to invade us in Another Glorious City... (we can defeat this, don't worry... ). So much in a half turn!

Please, post your comments and requests for impeachment or court cases here...
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joncnunn, I'll PM you in the morning or so.
Sorry, I'm too tired right now...
Don't worry, wasn't a disaster at all.
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You were great, really. It was a very pleasant turnchat.

Too bad it was delayed and interrupted. Better luck next time!
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This save includes all WF rearrangements to obey the DM and RA orders.

I'll post soon the report about losses (as consequence of my mistake). Not much, at all (thanks God! ).
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Damage report
(cause: my mistake when posting and loading saves )

Three queues messed (not much):

Willsbury built ironclad instead of harbour,
Queue at this point: Harbour(2), Pol, Col, wealth (as a placeholder for a Battleship), Bank.

Gotham built Bank instead of Police station.
The queue is: Pol(5), Hos, Court, Col.

Port Rouge didn’t change the queue in turn 1325 AD. I did the change in 1330AD, but, as a consequence, we lost ~20 shields.
The queue: Pol(1), Inf, Fact, Uni, Hos, Bank, Col.

We had some minor losses in shields, growth or commerce, because I implemented the changes in the WF one turn later (1330 ad).

The PW orders are done in part. The urgent requests of Old Germany are in progress (almost done)

End of the damage report...

The other PW requests aren’t implemented yet (I only can do this in a turnchat, and the last one was interrupted when we figured out what happened)

Only the temple in Berlin was rushed.

No workers joined any city, yet (no harm, it's in time). This should be done in the next turnchat.
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hi ,

thats not to bad

relax Aro , you did a fine job

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Macross City already completed the Infantry in its queue, it shouldn't be building another one. This error occured because the city completed its build in 1330. We should check for similar situations (completed unit builds) in other cities, to ensure they are not building unordered units.
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... Did you download the save posted above, dejon?
In this save, Macross is building Police Station (4 turns). The subsequent queue is Hospital, Colosseum, Wealth (as a placeholder for... well, for something )
I believe that all queues are corrected now, with the exceptions mentioned in the "damage Report" post above.

Note: Just in case, I downloaded the mentioned save to a different folder in the saves directory of CivIII and loaded the game... Checked )
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Sorry, I had missed that post/attachment, I was looking at the previous 1330 save. Thanks.
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