Old Europe left out in the cold? - Page 6

lord of the mark · January 31, 2003, 14:06

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Originally posted by paiktis22
and was outside the institutions unlike to what others did.

thats why it has the worth of a toilet paper

why dont you go tell all the brits that anything their govt does in foreign policy without Eu approval is worth toilet paper. Put it in banner headlines on every UK paper, especially the tabloids. Should be very popular.

lord of the mark · January 31, 2003, 14:09

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Originally posted by paiktis22
au contraire France and Germany and ALL the others had already agreed on the principles.

the gang of 8 made a maverick move which is like a firework.

all the others had agreed on blindsiding Powell at the UN???
(i'll have to go find the exact text of what the French said to see what all the EU members "agreed to")

Now you may respond that the french action was based on principles that all agreed to. But then the same can be said for the letter. Everything in it is based on UNSC 1441, which IIUC all EU members agree to. (And France of course voted for it)

Bereta_Eder · January 31, 2003, 14:11

yes tehre was an greed action and they circumvented it, seriously damaging the quest for a unified voice little yankee.
besides im not interested in talking to ignorant americans about this.

all they do is talking out of their ass.
nothing to offer, besides massive deaths of civilians of course.

DinoDoc · January 31, 2003, 14:18

Ok, I think we can come to agreement that the FOPG citizen Zorba has little of worth to say on the issue beyond cute trolls and attaching images to his pictures. Now that we have that settled, we can go about discussing the issue in a more substantive manner with on of the other Europeans.

Bereta_Eder · January 31, 2003, 14:20

says the silly troll

8 countries singed a toilet paper.

europe has 40 ****ries.

did you pass your math exams?
do the calculus.

lord of the mark · January 31, 2003, 14:20

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Originally posted by paiktis22
" little yankee."
"besides im not interested in talking to ignorant americans about this. "

"all they do is talking out of their ass."

thank you for improving the quality of the dialog here, Paiktis, it really lends support and seriousness to you arguments.

Bereta_Eder · January 31, 2003, 14:21

BTW with 80% of europeans opoosing the war...

who was the one of the 8 that said he was only respresnting himself BTW?

this is so funny!

lord of the mark · January 31, 2003, 14:22

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Originally posted by paiktis22
yes tehre was an greed action and they circumvented it,

what was the agreed action????

Bereta_Eder · January 31, 2003, 14:22

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Originally posted by lord of the mark

thank you for improving the quality of the dialog here, Paiktis, it really lends support and seriousness to you arguments.

says the one who the only thing he did was posting silly trolls

DinoDoc · January 31, 2003, 14:24

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Originally posted by paiktis22
says the silly troll

8 countries singed a toilet paper.

europe has 40 ****ries.

did you pass your math exams?
do the calculus.

The prosecution rests, your honor. I think that this last bit of evidence proves our case on its own.

Winston · January 31, 2003, 14:25

My theory is that paiktis likes to sit alone drinking on Friday nights, while disrupting select threads on Poly.

It always gets worse as the evening progresses, and mainly on Friday nights. Around midnight local time, he's ready to play the Nazi card he's so fond of.

lord of the mark · January 31, 2003, 14:25

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Originally posted by paiktis22
says the silly troll

8 countries singed a toilet paper.

europe has 40 ****ries.

did you pass your math exams?
do the calculus.

as far as i can tell they only invited NATO countries,

Total NATO countries in Europe, IIUC = 15. (Not coutning Turkey as European

)
8 supported it. 5 clearly disagreed. Netherlands, agreed but thought signing would undermine common policy. Norway and Iceland, I havent heard.
8 of 15 is the majority.

Bereta_Eder · January 31, 2003, 14:26

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Originally posted by lord of the mark

what was the agreed action????

no war without UN mandate

lord of the mark · January 31, 2003, 14:28

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Originally posted by paiktis22

says the one who the only thing he did was posting silly trolls

all did was suggest that this letter was unpopular in FOPG,.
Well it was, as you have made clear.

have a nice day.

Bereta_Eder · January 31, 2003, 14:28

40 countries in europe and you got 8 to sing a letter that doesnt mean anything.

NATO hasnt agreed on anything so far

i love the way antiamerican sentiment is hitting the roof with all of that across the world BTW.

Bereta_Eder · January 31, 2003, 14:29

LOTM just brace yourself for more terrorist attacks and give it a rest

Bereta_Eder · January 31, 2003, 14:30

have a nice day too

lord of the mark · January 31, 2003, 14:30

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Originally posted by paiktis22

no war without UN mandate

and how does the letter contradict that. It does not state that a second resolution is not necessary, rather it calls on the UNSC to take its responsibilities under 1441 seriously. And even if it did say that no second res is necessary that would not contradict the need for a UN mandata, since some apparently believe that UNCS 1441 provides such mandate.
Has the EU ever agreed that it does not???? Perhaps you could point is to the relevant EU texts????

DinoDoc · January 31, 2003, 14:32

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Originally posted by Winston
My theory is that paiktis likes to sit alone drinking on Friday nights, while disrupting select threads on Poly.

It always gets worse as the evening progresses, and mainly on Friday nights. Around midnight local time, he's ready to play the Nazi card he's so fond of.

Sounds plausible.

BTW, How is the declaration playing in Denmark anyway?

lord of the mark · January 31, 2003, 14:33

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Originally posted by paiktis22
40 countries in europe and you got 8 to sing a letter that doesnt mean anything.

NATO hasnt agreed on anything so far

.

No they havent agreed to even discuss protecting Turkey. At the veto of ....France, Germany, Belgium, Luxemborg, and FOPG. Unprecedented, apparently.

That should go over well in creating European solidarity.

Bereta_Eder · January 31, 2003, 14:33

search tne BBC, the text is there
im not wasting time for silly warmongering yanks.

lord of the mark · January 31, 2003, 14:35

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Originally posted by paiktis22
LOTM just brace yourself for more terrorist attacks and give it a rest

Ive been braced for more terr attacks for the last year and a half. AS have Brits, Italians, Fench, Germans, Aussies, Kuwaits, yemenis, indians, israelis, kenyans, russians, spanish and Tunisians, among others.

Winston · January 31, 2003, 14:36

DinoDoc,

There's a bit of a row about it in Parliament. The Social Democrats accuse the government of muddling the waters an conducting a "single partisan" foreign policy, which is not the tradition here.

The government claims there is nothing new in the declaration from what the EU foreign ministers agreed on earlier this week.

The reference in the letter to the UNSC resolution was put in there on the Danish PM's initiative BTW.

Bereta_Eder · January 31, 2003, 14:36

yeah well, keep bracing

lord of the mark · January 31, 2003, 14:37

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Originally posted by paiktis22
search tne BBC, the text is there
im not wasting time for silly warmongering yanks.

Im not searching for a text i dont think is there. You claim its there, you point to it. have a nice day.

Bereta_Eder · January 31, 2003, 14:38

and the US is a target for attacks. the others are not. stop looking for friends

Bereta_Eder · January 31, 2003, 14:39

LOTM you're funny.

lord of the mark · January 31, 2003, 14:46

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Originally posted by paiktis22
and the US is a target for attacks. the others are not. stop looking for friends

the others are not targets.

Hey Indians, no one shot at your parliament.
That business in the Moscow theater, that was jsut experimental theater.
Bali - that was jsut a gas leak.
Tunisia synagogue - germans killed - never happened.
French killed in Karachi, French ship hit off Yemen, C'est rien. Ricin in Manchester, just a chemistry experiment, ignore it.
Terrorists in Naples with maps of Italian cities, theyre just tourist.

Italy, France, GErmany, Spain, UK and very one else are just having a case of the nerves, is all.

Guess as long as it doesnt happen in FOPG its not really happening.

lord of the mark · January 31, 2003, 14:47

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Originally posted by paiktis22
and the US is a target for attacks. the others are not. stop looking for friends

Funny thats just what right wing unilateralist americans say - glad you agree with them.

Bereta_Eder · January 31, 2003, 14:50

The US is who is threatened with massive terrorist attacks the others (israel aside) are not

all targets in africa asia are for americans/ australians

youre alone and the serious target of attacks.

simple

denmark is funny BTW a silly small monarchy jumping up and down saying "we support youoouoou"

winston is a pro american extraordinair dont represent anyone besides himself though

80% of EU isagainst the war