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Old February 13, 2003, 12:52   #1
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Japan threatens Korea with pre-emptive strike
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/2757923.stm

Japan has given a warning it would launch a pre-emptive military action against North Korea if it had firm evidence Pyongyang was planning a missile attack.
Defence Minister Shigeru Ishiba said it would be "a self-defence measure" if North Korea was going to "resort to arms against Japan".

Mr Ishiba said it would be too late if a North Korean missile was already on its way.

His remarks were the latest in the international row over Pyongyang's nuclear intentions, and followed a North Korean warning that it had the ability to strike American targets anywhere in the world, if provoked.


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Pyongyang was responding to a statement by the head of the US Central Intelligence Agency, George Tenet, warned that Pyongyang had a long-range missile capable of reaching the west coast of America.

On Wednesday, the United Nations nuclear watchdog resolved to refer North Korea to the UN Security Council for breaching nuclear non-proliferation agreements.

Warning

A senior official in Pyongyang, Ri Kwang-hyok, told the AFP news agency that North Korea was capable of attacking "all military personnel and all military commands of the United States in the world" as a self defence measure.

He also called on the Security Council to investigate the United States' own nuclear programme.

"We insist that the responsibility of the US must be discussed too," he said.

North Korea has long been thought to have a missile under development capable of hitting the western United States.


'Chronic offender'

The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) decision on Wednesday to refer North Korea to the UN Security Council brings the nuclear crisis to a new stage.

It raises the possibility of economic and political sanctions against Pyongyang - a move North Korea says it would regard as a declaration of war.

Under its charter, the IAEA must report any violations of the nuclear non-proliferation treaty to the Security Council, and Pyongyang had been in "chronic non-compliance since 1993", IAEA chief Mohamed ElBaradei said.

He said North Korea was only a "month or two" from producing "a significant amount of plutonium" that could be used to make nuclear weapons.

Despite issuing the referral, Mr ElBaradei insisted that the IAEA would continue to press for a peaceful solution to the crisis.

"All members made it clear it is not the time to jump to sanctions," Mr ElBaradei said.

'Window of opportunity'

Pyongyang's neighbours have reacted with concern to the new developments.

South Korea urged Pyongyang to seize the "window of opportunity" left open to it.

It also said it hoped the Security Council would "handle the issue in a way that prevents a worsening of the situation and facilitates a diplomatic resolution".

China, while backing the decision by the IAEA's 35-country board, warned the Security Council against getting involved.

"The UN Security Council's involvement at this stage might not necessarily contribute to the settlement of the issue," China's ambassador to the UN, Zhang Yan, said on Thursday.

"The only correct and effective approach... is through constructive dialogue and consultations on the basis of equality," he said.
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Old February 13, 2003, 12:59   #3
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This is the only time that I can think of post-WW II that Japan has threatened the use of military force.
I'm sure China, as well as the rest of Asia, wouldn't react very well to Japanese forces in Korea.
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I'm sure Korea wouldn't react very well when seeing Japanese transports near its shores. I hope the surrounding countries will find a diplomatic solution ASAP, and I sure hope Kim will try to accept it. He is really waging the "politics of worst".
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You're right, I was wondering as well if Japan's army would be big enough to conceivably challenge N. Korea. But even though it's small it's much more well-armed than it's Korean counterpart.
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I suppose this makes Japan a bunch of "warmongers". God knows that pre-emptive action against dangerous tyrants is inexcusable...
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I don't see what's any different between what the North Koreans are doing and what we're doing to Iraq.
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That's because you don't recognize the legitimacy of the United Nations and international law. We are obeying international law for now, in regards to Iraq. North Korea is in violation.
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I don't see what's any different between what the North Koreans are doing and what we're doing to Iraq.
The sad thing is that you're probably serious about this. I weep for the future...
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actually, I do recognize the legitimacy of the UN and international law.
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I don't see what's any different between what the North Koreans are doing and what we're doing to Iraq.
The sad thing is that you're probably serious about this. I weep for the future...
You should. With war mongering world leaders like Bush, it's only a matter of time before the world breaks out into a nuclear rampage after some upstart nation like North Korea decides they don't want to be bullied anymore.
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You think North Korea is the one being bullied?!?

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North Korea is hardly being bullied.

Wait sorry, that's not true.

The North Korean people are habitually bullied. The nation-state is not being bullied. The nation-state is the bully.

We gave them food and fuel, they built weapons of mass destruction. Now they want food and fuel, even though the terms were for them to recieve aid in exchange for not building nuclear weapons. They are the bullies. You are just a self hating American.
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Orange, I can understand opposition to a war in Iraq. But North Korea is very cut and dry. This is good versus evil, and right now you're with the Bush administration on the accomodating evil side. I hope you're proud of your moral cowardice.
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Moral Cowardice? How?

I haven't stated anything about my opinions of war with North Korea.
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You are just a self hating American.
Nope. I would just prefer not to see my country, which I do care about, make wrong decisions.
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Wow...talk about a wierd month on the global stage. The Paris Pact, Troop buildup in the Persian Gulf, NK threatening a pre-emptive strike against SK/USA while we're focused on the ME, Japan threatening a pre-pre-emptive strike against NK....the line's starting to get a bit longish....

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NK is going to force us to use force quickly in Iraq I think so that we can get over to the Pacific and deal with them.
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Hmmmm...How would Japan attack North Korea? With it's one LST?
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I thought Japan had the highest progression of its military budget lately, after the US, and its army is beginning ot be on par with bigger west European armies.
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Japan has the right to do so.

Where are tons of US troops? In Japan
When North Korea is treatening to use nuclear weapons againsts US troops around the world does that most likely refere to troops in Japan. Those nuclear weapons would not only kill the US troops but also the MILLIONS Japanse living near there.

Japan has a billion more reasons to attack North korea then the US has to attack Iraq. The US should currently leave the the middle east for what it is and back Japan. One nuclear weapon can do a lot more then 100 WTC like terroristic attacks, north korea is a bigger tread then Bin Laden. The treats that North korea has made to Japan quite equals a declaration of war. If Cuba would only do 1/1000 th od what North Korea is doing now would it have been already war.
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I thought Japan had the highest progression of its military budget lately, after the US, and its army is beginning ot be on par with bigger west European armies.
If it can't get it's army from point "A" to point "B", then it doesn't matter how big it's military is.
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Oh and if Japan lost to North korea and became a part of it would it be an even bigger mesh that is why the US must back Japan.

Without US support do I give Japan 50% to win, with US air support +/-90%, with US ground support 100%.
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Sounds like a veiled threat to go nuclear themselves.
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But North Korea is very cut and dry. This is good versus evil, and right now you're with the Bush administration on the accomodating evil side.
Actually that'd probably be me more so than orange. And I'm not with Bush at all, because I'd be in favor of removing all sanctions and getting all military forces out of Korea. That's not called accomodating evil, that's called minding your own business. The regional powers are more than sufficient to defeat North Korea - a combination of South Korea and Japan, for example, or even just South Korea, would have little problem. China would destroy the NKs as well, if they wanted to.
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Some defense spending might be just what Japan needs for their economy. That is if they could get the production in their own country
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Why can't North and South Korea negotiate a peace treaty between themselves? Why should we give them a non-aggression pact when NK and SK have only a decades-old cease-fire?

As for Japan ... who knows. Maybe there's a dastardly plan about to give them nukes, too.

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