Imperialism II

Elbert · February 23, 2003, 15:46

Are there people still playing Imperialism II?

Although an old game it has the right balance between depth and high level control.

The Viceroy · February 23, 2003, 16:29

Im still playing Imperialism .. never got no.2

Whats it like ?

Asher · February 23, 2003, 17:46

Imperialism I ruled, what's II like?

Elbert · February 23, 2003, 17:52

I never played Imperialism 1 but Imp II is still one of the best strategy games i ever have played.
According some reviews it is much better than Imp 1.

St Leo · February 23, 2003, 18:49

Imp II has a historical Europe and a random and unexplored New World. The trading profits are much reduced, requiring you to mine valuables in the New World, and upgraded workers now require refined sugar, tobacco, and furs to work. The concept of stations and land transport capacity is eliminated while ships can alternate between providing naval transport capacity, ferrying troops, and blockading ports.

Datajack Franit · February 23, 2003, 18:56

Both are damn good but I give my vote to Imp2, although it crashes very ofter (of course I got the cracked edition bought in Syria so what can I expect

)

Comrade Tribune · February 23, 2003, 19:29

Imperialism II is one of the best games, ever, it beats CivIII and is on par with the EU series.

So sad they never made an ImperialismIII.

Andemagne · February 23, 2003, 20:39

found this game as a reissue in my local games store on the other day. only 10€.
didn't have that with me then, but as soon as I can spare 10€ I'll make some investments.

Zkribbler · February 23, 2003, 21:26

I'm playing it!

I almost quit the game I was playing yesterday. I had only two iron deposits in my home country--an obvious stranglehold on early development.

Plus, I was out of money and all the other countries were getting ahead of me in New World conquests.

But then I woke up in the wee hours, couldn't get back to sleep, so I fired up the game again. I started selling lumber and buying iron, and that kept me alive. Then one of my explorers found a silver deposit, so I scraped up enough money to send my army to conquer to province. Next, my explorers wandered into the hills of that province and found iron! Lots of iron!!

My scientists have just discovered Lancers, so I'm going to build a couple of them, and then start building ships to bring back all my New World goodies.

World conquest, here I come!

Qilue · February 24, 2003, 01:19

I have the game and played a few times, but with almost no success.

Could some of the more experienced players share their strategy secrets?

DrSpike · February 24, 2003, 05:32

I remember playing a demo of this when it came out.......it didn't grab me as much as civ games do.

ottok · February 24, 2003, 05:36

Quote:

Originally posted by Zkribbler

I'm playing it!

I almost quit the game I was playing yesterday. I had only two iron deposits in my home country--an obvious stranglehold on early development.

Plus, I was out of money and all the other countries were getting ahead of me in New World conquests.

But then I woke up in the wee hours, couldn't get back to sleep, so I fired up the game again. I started selling lumber and buying iron, and that kept me alive. Then one of my explorers found a silver deposit, so I scraped up enough money to send my army to conquer to province. Next, my explorers wandered into the hills of that province and found iron! Lots of iron!!

My scientists have just discovered Lancers, so I'm going to build a couple of them, and then start building ships to bring back all my New World goodies.

World conquest, here I come!

USA SUCKS,GEORGE W BUSH JR IS SUCKEST!
Ariel Sharon is more DANGER than saddam!

IF A IM A GEORGE W BUSH JR I ATTACK KILL SHARON!!

The Viceroy · February 24, 2003, 08:42

Sounds interesting, a mix of colonization and imperialism .. If I see it in the bargain basement, I'll pick it up.

Is it as hard as Imperialism ?? I get well stuffed on any level beyond easy.

Nothing worse than getting a handful of nice colonies, and then having every single nation declare war on you .. (including your own allies) .. Dahh

As for the previous post ?? What on earth ???? wrong forum !

Zkribbler · February 24, 2003, 23:40

Quote:

Originally posted by Qilue
I have the game and played a few times, but with almost no success.

Could some of the more experienced players share their strategy secrets?

Don't play any country without a least one horse ranch. You'll need them for cavalry and light artillery.

In the beginning, you need iron, wood, grain and cattle and soon after that, sheep for making cloth. Send all three of your ships out exploring. Dont' worry about invasions because no one can invade you early. All your provinces have forts which can't be stormed until the invention of horse artillery.

Kick the snot out of the Injuns. Yes, I know you can also carry on diplomacy with them, but that's usually a waste of time, effort and money. Just conquer them.

Don't be the weakest military power. That invites war.

Avoid alliances early; they just suck you into pointless wars. You can't yet conquer any forts, but the enemy can cut your sea routes and starve you for commodities.

In the early-to-mid game, build ports on a least two seas in each of your land masses and connect them with roads. That way, if one of your ports is blockaded during a war, your goods can be shipped through the other.

Try to keep extra food around. It never rots, and you can use it if you're blockaded or--better yet--if a major power declares war on a minor power, and the minor power asks you (as its ally) to please absorb it into your country. When its army is added to yours, you suddenly have a lot more mouths to feed.

War with Europeans is usually not the answer. Wars tie you and your opponent down and chew up your resources, while the other nations go on developing, building, inventing and leaving you in the dust.

Iron Chancellor · February 25, 2003, 14:58

I loved the first one, but it had a bug (or weird AI) that if you passed a certain threshold of power, every nation immediately declared war on you, unless they were allied without in which case they told you to take your alliance and shove it. How was #2

Grumbold · February 25, 2003, 14:59

Imp II is a game that always makes it back onto my harddrive every year for a game or three. The random starts are a little frustrating but its lots of fun.

Datajack Franit · February 25, 2003, 17:06

Random starts?? Playing Europe Map is the best feature of Imp2

Dauphin · February 25, 2003, 19:45

I remember playing the demo. I forgot to buy the game itself as my free time was taken up with other stuff at the time.

If I find a bargain bucket I may just get it.

Datajack Franit · February 25, 2003, 22:57

Buy it- you'll learn some history as well, although one of the best titles of this category was Colonization

Garth Vader · February 27, 2003, 12:57

I downloaded it from the underdogs, but it didn't work.

I have never seen it in the cheap bin either.

lord of the mark · February 27, 2003, 13:00

i havent seem either in the bargain bin for some time.

IIRC Imp 2 is still available from some online sites.

Imp 1 can only be found used. I think i saw it on sale on Amazon, and of course on Ebay. Ive nver used those sites, but i may try it, as Imp is on my list of games to get.

DanQ · February 27, 2003, 19:11

Quote:

Originally posted by ottok

USA SUCKS,GEORGE W BUSH JR IS SUCKEST!
Ariel Sharon is more DANGER than saddam!

IF A IM A GEORGE W BUSH JR I ATTACK KILL SHARON!!

[O]ttok:

Your comments above are neither desired nor acceptable in these forums. If you would like to carry on a civil discussion on the issues to which you are referring above, do so in the "Off-Topic" forum only (hence its name).

This is your only warning.

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Dan; Apolyton CS

DrSpike · February 27, 2003, 19:43

I think you are too late Dan.......IIRC Ming already gave him a short vacation.

Dauphin · February 27, 2003, 19:45

He's been posting that in numerous fora. Just search all his posts.

Henrik · February 28, 2003, 11:31

I allways thought IMP 1 was better than 2, I've beaten both though

Elbert · February 28, 2003, 17:06

Are there people willing to play a game?

I like to play a game at Saturday March 1.

My proposal: 21:00 GMT+1

Meeting in chat room of GameSpy Arcade
Chat Lobby: Strategy Games
Room: Imperialism 2

Other time proposals for March 1 and 2 is also possible.