March 11, 2003, 08:43
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autohut finder, and autosettler?!?!
what are these programs, and why are people using them??? 
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March 11, 2003, 09:55
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Just another peon
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Hut finder
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...6&pagenumber=1
Don't have a clue what autosettler is.
Hutfinder is a time saver and a refinement of what we already knew. Everyone with half a brain knows there is a hut pattern. If you know of three huts in one four pattern and one hut from any other four set, you could calculate the position of every hut on the map. I used to keep blank sheet with the full hut pattern to assist in this. I'm not the only one. It also showed the relationship between the hut pattern and the special pattern.
The hutfinder makes it easier, you only need one hut.
When it first came out we discussed if it should be allowed in the group we play. In the end, it was decided that it was just an extension of what we already knew and it could save time since people no longer had to calculate the huts by hand. Anything that saves time in MP games is given consideration. Whether the entire community thinks the same is debatable. Every group has to determine it's own rules set. I have not seen many people here speak out against it.
RAH
I guess it's time to hear more specific anit-comments from you 
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March 11, 2003, 10:06
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And now that we know that it can be calculated from one hut knowing the seed number, even without the program, all of us would have updated our hut templates. The cat is out of the bag and can't be put back in. To me it's the same as the knowledge of Oedo years, available techs, and supply and demand calculations. Once people know of them, they will use them. Some may think it's a shame that we have such knowledge, but those that have it WILL use it.
RAH
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March 11, 2003, 10:23
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hmph
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"I thought you must be dead ..." he said simply. "So did I for a while," said Ford, "and then I decided I was a lemon for a couple of weeks. A kept myself amused all that time jumping in and out of a gin and tonic."
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March 11, 2003, 10:25
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Yeah, but what are you going to do....
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Do you have a link for the autosettler? Never heard of it.
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March 11, 2003, 11:07
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autosettler = putting settler on automatic? 
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March 11, 2003, 11:38
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lol...don't know. i thought it was a program that made settlers not dumb (from reading the rah rules post). i guess you are right. oh well, if you can't beat them, join them
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"I thought you must be dead ..." he said simply. "So did I for a while," said Ford, "and then I decided I was a lemon for a couple of weeks. A kept myself amused all that time jumping in and out of a gin and tonic."
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March 11, 2003, 12:12
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Anything that speeds up the game is ok with me. It's not like we couldn't do the same manually... I had a bunch of stuff mapped out on paper to show me the same thing... We all knew it, and hut finder just makes it faster. There are already enough things that slow the game down
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March 11, 2003, 12:43
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Originally posted by ColdWizard
autosettler = putting settler on automatic?
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Yes I know about putting settlers on auto "DOH"
But the way he asked the question, I was wondering if maybe XIN wrote a program to make them do what you want that I haven't seen. Or someone maybe developed it another site that I don't frequent. You never know, since people are working on all sorts of things.
RAH
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March 11, 2003, 12:45
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And Kaak, If you ever interested in playing what some consider a "perversion" of civ, post in the "setting up thread" or use ICQ. I'm sure a person of your caliber would be welcome.
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March 11, 2003, 13:35
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i'm sure i'll play sometime
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"I thought you must be dead ..." he said simply. "So did I for a while," said Ford, "and then I decided I was a lemon for a couple of weeks. A kept myself amused all that time jumping in and out of a gin and tonic."
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March 14, 2003, 19:03
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kaak has switched from room five in the zone to apolyton..... 
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March 14, 2003, 19:06
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He always cruises back this way every once in a while...
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March 17, 2003, 05:30
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he hasn't played in a while, and he was sighted in room 5 the other day as well...
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"Mal nommer les choses, c'est accroître le malheur du monde" - Camus (thanks Davout)
"I thought you must be dead ..." he said simply. "So did I for a while," said Ford, "and then I decided I was a lemon for a couple of weeks. A kept myself amused all that time jumping in and out of a gin and tonic."
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March 17, 2003, 10:48
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March 17, 2003, 10:56
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Too bad we couldn't hook up this weekend Kaak. Maybe in the future.
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March 21, 2003, 17:49
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go ahead, call me an idiot out loud, but how do you use the hutfinder program?
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March 21, 2003, 18:47
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Originally posted by General Maximus
go ahead, call me an idiot out loud, but how do you use the hutfinder program?
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Go to Hut Finder and download it.
It allows you to put in the location of the first hut you find, and then will show you where all the other huts (assuming they are on a land) and specials are.
It's a brilliant piece of work... check it out.
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March 22, 2003, 07:10
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Yes it works well
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March 22, 2003, 08:56
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So Hydey - where were you?!!
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March 23, 2003, 18:45
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I dl'd the program already, it doesn't do anything but show me the opening splash screen....
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March 23, 2003, 18:49
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When the "opening splash" come up, left click anywhere on the splash... and hut finder starts. It's a small window. Then just put in the xy coordinates of a hut, and hit continue... Then choose the "schematic view"...
It also can give you oedo years
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