What war?

vmxa1 · March 11, 2003, 16:43

I was going to complain that the AI never asks for peace or accept a demand, but I see why now.
We are not at war? It is unreal, but I have busted all of one races planets but two and at no time has war been declared by either side? I attack all of their ships and planets and no war? I was hoping to extract some techs for peace, but we are at peace, very strange.

Eric S · March 11, 2003, 16:56

Here I was thinking that this was going to be about the AI declaring war but not doing anything about it. But you're right, the AI gets upset for things that they don't specify even if you're not attacking (my theory is rules-of-engagement violations), but lets you get away with some nasty landgrabs and such with little or no repercussions.

intrigue · March 11, 2003, 18:29

jeah - I've had a couple times now where I will have good relations with some empire, and they will suddenly tell me something like "stop your actions now"... I wasn't spying on them or anything... and then the next turn they offered a Non-Aggression pact. Odd

vmxa1 · March 11, 2003, 20:54

I guess I should declare war to see if I can force them to offer me tech for peace. I am guessing that they will never ask for peace, anyone know.

Tuberski · March 11, 2003, 23:30

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Originally posted by vmxa1
I guess I should declare war to see if I can force them to offer me tech for peace. I am guessing that they will never ask for peace, anyone know.

I think I had it happen once, and I simply accepted instead of asking for anything.

ACK!

vmxa1 · March 12, 2003, 00:31

That is what I am afraid of. I do not want it to be easy, but it is fun to extort them a bit.

WarriorPoet · March 13, 2003, 11:10

Yeah, I've had the lizard guys, sakkra or raas, tell me (humans) "Stop your actions....," and a few turns later, "We are now at war..."

What gives, I did nothing??? I don't even have to be bordering their colonies, and this happens every game!!!

Harry Seldon · March 13, 2003, 11:28

You'll never get tech for surrender. I have three empires I'm grinding to dust and every few turns they'll ask for a peace treaty. I always counter with a single tech of varying levels and they always refuse my offers.

To WarriorPoet - How strong are you? I had an alliance with one of the gasbags but when I got powerful enough and defeated all the threats to their empire, they cancelled each of our treaties turn by turn then declared war.

Eric S · March 13, 2003, 13:11

WarriorPoet, the opinion other races have towards you depends on more than just how you treat them. For example, attacking Player X when your front designation for that player is quiet front or defensive front is a violation of your rules of engagement, which makes you seem more aggressive/hostile and less dependable to everyone, not just the person you attacked. Unfortunately, I don't know if intercepting a fleet in a system where you have colonies also triggers this.

I'm sure that there are other things that can trigger otherwise uninvolved races to think less of you, such as using NBC weapons during ground assault, and I suspect that bombing a planet into oblivion has a rather chiling effect on your reputation as well.

BlueDEvil · March 13, 2003, 22:03

It is related to the random events which is decided by your diplomatic skills. If you are a bad diplomat, events regarding diplomatic relations always go against you. Not surprising to get war declared on you all the sudden, and without logical reasons. Diiplomatic agents can also severed ties. Communications breakdown cause by software bugs is a random event relate to your bad diplomatic skill.

You shouldn't be intercepting fleets unless you want to sour relations. If you are a good diplomat and avoid intercepting neutral fleets, you are most likely to get a relation improvement event with that empire.

Eric S · March 14, 2003, 13:45

I'd be happy not intercepting fleets that I'm not actively at war with if we had another combat option, "force them to go out the way they came or engage them." I don't care if they're looking for different types of planets than I am, my territory is my territory, and unless I give you permission to start a colony in it, I'm not going to take the intrusion well.