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Old March 17, 2003, 12:44   #1
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Grad School and Rejection
how many grad schools did you get rejected from before you got accepted somewhere?
i just got my first...cali state in fresno....but now i'm fairly certain that if they rejected me, UT and johns hopkins will reject me too...
actually, i'm frozen with fear that no place will accept me or that i will be unable to support myself or something...
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Old March 17, 2003, 12:49   #2
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I was pretty worried though. My course grades weren't the best but I scored very high on my research so I had top notch recommendations.

Where are you trying to get in (and in what field)?
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UT is a state school. You think it will "reject" you ?
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U of Texas is good in physics (among the top public schools), so to be rejected from there would be no shame.

I don't know how it is in what dm's doing.
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i'm doing poetry...Cali was a state school and it rejected me. i'm in honors. i got a 1200 on the gre..nothing to scoff at. fresno told me my poetry wasn't good enough. UT takes 10 to 12 students per year..so chances of me getting in, especially NOW..are dim. but i think my first two choices are san diego state and university of new orleans....i'm just scared i'm not going to get in anywhere or have enough money to get myself settled....
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I didn't go on to grad school, but I have a good friend who applied to a bunch of PhD programs and was rejected by nearly all of them (he applied to mostly top 10 schools, and the acceptance rate is really rough). He will most likely accept an offer U Chicago made him involving a year long masters-level program (though he has a masters degree already) that will help plug any holes in his application so he can get in next time 'round.

Anyway, don't worry, be happy. I remember my college applications: I got 1 rejection, 1 waitlist, and then a week later got 4 acceptances on the same day. That was a good feeling.

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I have a friend who is going to Yale next spring for grad school. She got reject from a lot of other schools, far worse than Yale. Suks to get rejected from Fresno, but what program are you appling for? I have had friends get rejected from Fresno, and get accepted to place like Temple and Duke...
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I'm having a tough time getting around the idea of someone being a grad student in poetry. What would a poet grad student do?

Rejection from one uni means very little. It could mean you suck, but it could just as easily mean that they were looking for other styles of poetry (or something). For all you know, they may have wanted someone wearing a beret who could snap their fingers loudly
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Poetry!? Odd... Whatever floats your boat.
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Is there as much money in that as Philosophy?

But, seriously what can you do when your done? besides be poet laurate?
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He can become a musician like Patti Smith or Leonard Cohen.
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i can teach.
and although there may be very little money in writing, i might..just might one day, have a book published. HOWEVER, i ALSO write novels and screenplays. it's just that my MFA is focused on poetry.
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Also, back to UT; it matters if you're in-state, or out-of-state, doesn't it ?
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He can become a musician like Patti Smith or Leonard Cohen.
He can be a RAPPER, and write bad gangster poetry for $$$.

That is if he can dance.
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i'm a girl....lol..and i'm white.....

sloww: i dunno if that matter in grad school....
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Re: Grad School and Rejection
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how many grad schools did you get rejected from before you got accepted somewhere?
i just got my first...cali state in fresno....but now i'm fairly certain that if they rejected me, UT and johns hopkins will reject me too...
actually, i'm frozen with fear that no place will accept me or that i will be unable to support myself or something...
I wouldn't worry. I've seen so many people rejected from school they deemed average and got into school deemed excellent that the whole process leaves you bewildered. Just take eachone as they come. A rejection from one school in no way reflects how the other school will treat you regardless of the school's reputation. But good luck just the same.
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Get some attitude girl, and YOU could be the first
Poet laurate of Rap

Write some "Bad" poetry. Put on some groovy duds and sunglasses, (backwards baseball hat or tuque) dance around like yer trying to shake a quarter down yer pants into yer boots while you recite some in your
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You'll be in like Flint!
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actually, i have written "bad" poetry....just yesterday in my seething anger towards my parents who take joy in mentally abusing me....here you go..the working title is "Awake"

Therapy makes things neat
So you realize there were blanks
And blocks boxed up in the back seat.
But they can’t be opened until you get the shakes;
Not just any quivering vibration-
It’s triggered and wrathful; a regular pit bull
Named Cerebus who knaws on your brain and erodes any patient sensations.

Now the lights blare full!
Memory gaps pull together like the villain
Of Terminator 2- liquid metal drops drawn
Irresistibly to a point and form the spawn
Of unbridled technology- the future’s penicillin.

Give your regards to the souls who call
Themselves my parents. I prefer jailers
Or children who toss the hot ball
Called responsibility to a former minor.
Either way, I’m younger
And since youth, the target of their evil fervor.

Some people have a right to hold
Grudges against their DNA donors.
Unlike Jerry Springer’s circus fold,
I’ll soon graduate college with honors-
Something I did alone
Because their meager and insignificant contribution
I’d analogize to that of my biological fathers gifts and non-loans
Of seventy-five a month- call it restitution.

The lot of you feel better?
Or do you need to punch me again
So my face swells and fetters,
Then blame my best-friend for the family pain,
Drug me and reinsert my mind into the therapy mainframe.

This is the mournful song; my pitiful tune
Of how I ran away one scalding June.
Because the ignorant found faith
In a book of myths and then the Lord sayeth
“Purge your child’s sanctum of CDs,
Books, ideas and anything that says I’ll never be.”
Go overboard! I’ll went nearly broke when I had to buy
New clothes to replace the thrown out- under a watchful eye
-But with my hard earned dough- black is the root of all evil;
Taints your heart and makes your balls shrivel.
Grabbed what could, tears like bullets and brains
Hyperventilating and stumbling into the street.
By 18, I finally had made friends and despite my fear and internal pain
I had to return to a gray house with changed locks and complete
My six-weeks out of a 13-year sentence
Just to get to Waco and it’s Bible thumping college.

From the fire into the frying pan.
Dating online was not a part of their plan.
I accepted disownment, the stealing of my car
Because I’m stubborn and determined to travel far
No matter what bombs crash in my path,
Times I attempt suicide, or insults thrown at my face.
I laugh when they make life harder; stick my head in an oven like Plath
And become angry when I fail and must place
My feet on the sand and walk forward.

Before the storm there was Nana and Papa.
Parents of my mother, my loves- my life
Who died trying to save me from strife
Caused by John Deere and his red-neck.
Left me their car and unicorn collection-
Entrusted to Greed, their daughter, who catalogues and checks
Her covetous possessions, through they and she built dust on their reflections.

She pretends her vile visage pleases
Like she makes believe there is a Jesus
Pulling the strings, sitting in the clouds
With the angels and my grandparents and declaring for them how I could never make them proud.

Well, here’s a big ‘ol “Go **** yourself!”
Straight from your doll upon the shelf
Who dammed your game of dress up
Because the whore is nothing but an ignorant, mouthy mess up.

“You don’t see me at all”
A step away from a crazy
In a scenic secluded shack preparing for my fall.
Building bombs, sending bombs; my vision hazy.
Perhaps I should brush my hair.
NO- I’ll not murder, but you can DIE for all I care.
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I liked it

(I left home @ 16 BTW)
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well..i took them back...odd way to phrase it..and then they turned around this week and just worked on destroying me inside.....
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well..i took them back...odd way to phrase it..and then they turned around this week and just worked on destroying me inside.....
I hav'nt see my kin for 8 years, best (hardist too)
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Saw a newscast a few weeks ago that was talking about UT putting a cap on how many they will now allow in the school. The said they are cutting back and not allowing for many more new students.

Interesting poem btw. You express your pain well through words.
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Is English poetry freeform?
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I liked it

(I left home @ 16 BTW)
Me too, and me too.
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I looked at dm's poem and can't figure out any rules to it. It doesn't seem to have a fixed number of lines per paragraph, it doesn't always rhyme at fixed places, and there are no fixed number of words per line.

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