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what about shogun?
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March 30, 2003, 18:11
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The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly is a great epic.
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March 30, 2003, 19:25
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Epics are typically films about historical events which had a big impact. Ben Hur was fictional I believe and certainly not a major historical event while Spartacus was historical. Gladiator lacked the historical context to qualify IMO, but the thread allows for everyone's definition of the word. Gone with the Wind is certainly an epic film...
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March 30, 2003, 19:31
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Lots of good films here folks..
.. I have to say that Kwai movie (Don't remember the english title). You want to know a secret? Well it's not a secret actually, but when I saw that film when I was a little kid, it really had a big impact on me.. it first made me realize I want to be a soldier. It's kind of ironic, since it's about POWs..
.. but it was because of the spirit of the men. That special thing what you can establish only in those kind of situations.. And of course the catchy whistling  .
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March 30, 2003, 19:31
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Papillon
Ben Hur
Alcatraz
pretty much anything with a prison or a gladiator
or Jedi?
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March 30, 2003, 19:35
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March 30, 2003, 19:36
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I also liked the movie about Jeanned´Arc by Luc Besson (sp?).
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The Messenger? Was it?
I remember one that did a good job of showing of the seige warfare of the times. Superb!
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March 30, 2003, 19:42
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omg Papillon is huge! I also have to book, it is just so good, I think I need to read it again, thanks for reminding!
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March 30, 2003, 19:43
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I have rented Papillon 3 times now... time to buy it.
Same with Glory
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March 30, 2003, 19:46
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The Messenger? Was it?
I remember one that did a good job of showing of the seige warfare of the times. Superb!
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Yeah, you´re right, I looked again 
Full title "The Messenger: The Story of Joan of Arc"
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March 30, 2003, 19:51
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Japher, Yep. I'm a proud owner of it already. It's a keeper.
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March 30, 2003, 19:52
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Newer movies are hard for me to look at as Epics, but if I had to pick a recent movie to be called one I would say that The Four Feathers was really good.
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March 30, 2003, 19:53
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It's weird to see those two so young (McQueen and Hoffman)
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March 30, 2003, 19:57
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I'd consider "Lawrence of Arabia", "Cleopatra", and "Empire of the Sun".
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March 30, 2003, 19:59
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Yep.. if you haven't read the book, I recommend it with warm hearts.. it has many things in it that wasn't covered in the movie, naturally. It's even more amazing in my opinion. It's funny, usually when I see a good movie and then read the book, I picture it little differently. But with Papillon, McQueens face was all over in my mind when I was reading it. Powerfull acting!
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March 30, 2003, 20:01
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Gods and Generals
No, wait, that was agonizngly long, historically inaccurate, skipped the Battle of Antietam entirely, and was a Neo-confederate propaganda piece.
It wasn't epic.
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March 31, 2003, 00:46
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I wouldn't call The Godfather an epic either. Lacks... vastness.
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but Part II has it...
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March 31, 2003, 00:48
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Good lord... Gods and Generals was awful... I don't think I've ever been so psyched to see a movie and so disappointed when I saw it. NOT EVEN EPISODE II DISAPPOINTED ME THAT MUCH!
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March 31, 2003, 03:59
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Uhmmm. I really need a definition for EPIC. Is EPIC=classic, sucessful?
If.... Treasure of Sierra Madre, Apocalypse Now, Blade Runner.
I also liked Arsenic and old Lace, but thats hardly an epic...
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March 31, 2003, 08:16
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You should see the latest film of Jiang Yimou, "Hero"
That's epic for you!
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"Empire of the Sun" truly impressed me when I was young.
"Ran" is beautiful, but lacks something to be considered an epic IMHO.
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unless a definition of epic is given.. I'd say dirty dozen?
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March 31, 2003, 09:40
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Others not mentioned.
The longest day.
Patton.
The 10 commandments.
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March 31, 2003, 10:19
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Originally posted by Berzerker
Epics are typically films about historical events which had a big impact. Ben Hur was fictional I believe and certainly not a major historical event while Spartacus was historical. Gladiator lacked the historical context to qualify IMO, but the thread allows for everyone's definition of the word. Gone with the Wind is certainly an epic film...
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So The Ten Commandments was not an epic? I dont think an epic movie has to be historical, it just needs to present events on a 'grand scale' (whatever that is).
Ben Hur is definitely the winner for me, followed closely by Lawrence of Arabia.
Star wars and LOTR are not single movies so dont qualify (for me). Leaving those out, Das Boot (in German) is the best of the more modern epics.
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March 31, 2003, 10:22
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Originally posted by rah
Others not mentioned.
The longest day.
Patton.
The 10 commandments.
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How could I forget The longest day and A Bridge Too Far :duh:. They're both much better books though.
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March 31, 2003, 10:25
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Does Waterloo (with Rod Steiger as Napoleon and Christopher Plummer as Wellesley) count as an epic ? It certainly had the most epic battle scenes of any movie I've seen.
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March 31, 2003, 10:27
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I also liked "The Fall of the Roman Empire", the story has a similar background to "Gladiator" (Marcus Aurelius/Commodus). Of course it was not very accurate, but I liked it more than those bible movies....
Edit: yes, Waterloo was great
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March 31, 2003, 10:34
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*SNIP*LOTR are not single movies so dont qualify (for me).*SNIP*
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LOTR was written as a single story and divided into 6, and then 3, for commercial reasons, by the publisher. It certainly could be a single movie, but it would be utterly impractical to have an 8 hour movie, in a theatre.
You could not possibly do justice to the story with a single 3 hour film.
The three films aren't neatly packaged, into beginnings, middles and ends... but together form this structure.
I'd say that for these reasons, LOTR:FotR, LOTR:TTT and LOTR RotK definitely count as an (as in one collectively) epic.
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Kurosawa's Ran
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I like his Shadow Warrior better.
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