Great Wall vs. Sun Tzu's - Page 3

rah · May 5, 2003, 13:47

But the GW walls can't be sabotaged. Most of my attack groups will include x number of diplos/spys to take care of anyone that thinks that city walls will protect their city from ferrets.

and sending 30 shield diplos to demolish more expensive improvements can be fun in it's own right.

lord of the mark · May 5, 2003, 13:51

again a distinction of MP vs SP.

rah · May 5, 2003, 16:51

Yes, you're quite correct, the diplo takes down wall is not an AI strategy.
But it is so prevalant in MP that no one really builds walls anymore. (unless it's a city with many many many improvements. And even then, it's rare)

RAH

War4ever · May 6, 2003, 00:24

if someone reaches your city, your asking for it to be taken anyways...... remember the old days with diplos...

you could go in and change the name on the opponent and rename his city "next" ...

Straybow · May 6, 2003, 03:24

"Next" is some kind of cute threat?

rah · May 6, 2003, 08:11

Nope, Fact.

War4ever · May 6, 2003, 09:21

Quote:

Originally posted by Straybow
"Next" is some kind of cute threat?

psychological warfare

Ming · May 6, 2003, 20:02

"Next" was always right up there with "Mine"

It is good to see that most people have voted for the logical choice. The 20% for GW has remained pretty consistent throughout the voting...

Straybow · May 7, 2003, 01:17

Waste of a Dip.

rah · May 7, 2003, 08:17

Since the attack would usually happen that turn, unless you saw considerably more defense than you expected, not a waste of a dip by any means.
But If I think I have overwelming force, I won't bother with the dip either.

monolith94 · May 13, 2003, 04:36

I like the great wall, but then again, I never play higher than prince, so what do I know???

Cruddy · May 13, 2003, 09:26

The answer is definitely banana on this one. Don't care if I have neither.

War4ever · May 13, 2003, 21:45

i used to love the HG, pyramids, GW expansion....unstoppable

Cobra · May 14, 2003, 06:53

The answer is easy: cowards and fear hares built GW, all others ST. GW is useless against attack from sea. Against attacks on landside you can build fortresses on strategic points. You allways need vet units. With ST you save monex every turn and every ship becomes vet after a fight. It´s nice to attack poor barb units with ships. During my SP-time I left a 2size-city at the coast for the barbs to produce vet-ships.

rah · May 14, 2003, 08:26

What's the significance of a 2size-city?

RAH

Cobra · May 14, 2003, 08:31

The city won´t be destroyed, if it is taken by barbarians. With cities size 1 can occur.

War4ever · May 14, 2003, 10:52

well you could say the same thing with size 2 cities for units as well...

i agree, i dn't like wall and its a last resort if i am getting my @ss handed to me which is very rare.

I have always been a STWA kinda fella

rah · May 14, 2003, 15:16

Quote:

Originally posted by Cobra
The city won´t be destroyed, if it is taken by barbarians. With cities size 1 can occur.

Ahhh, didn't quite get it at first, leaving the city for the barbs to capture. For some stupid reason i thought you meant building one so you could send ships out from it to attack barbs on the coast. Silly me.

War4ever · May 14, 2003, 16:29

senior moment !!!!!!!!!

of course hes talking non units

non boats...thats nice under a representative govt

Cobra · May 15, 2003, 04:33

rah is right. I can´t explain all my words in english...it´s a little bit rusty

. I´m a warlord and rarely play republic or demo.

rah · May 15, 2003, 08:20

Quote:

Originally posted by Cobra
rah is right.

@ war4.

War4ever · May 15, 2003, 23:01

just checking up on you, my problem with that strat is the barbs never come for my stinking island cities....or i woudl do it all the time

welcome to my armada..... NON "lost at sea" NON "crusing the surf" NON "cloth and twigs"

rah · May 16, 2003, 08:15

Straybow · May 16, 2003, 16:08

Yeah, never seen a barb city produce a 'clad.

War4ever · May 16, 2003, 16:27

can a barb produce a boat other than trireme, sail, or transport?

Ming · May 17, 2003, 04:17

Never seen them do it... But I love all the 'Non" units they can produce for me

SCG · May 17, 2003, 10:43

hadn't thought about the idea of ships being produced from a barb city - i also pictured ships attacking the barb coast and becoming vet.

I suppose if you have Leo's in conjunction with Sun Tsu, you could get barb ships, upgrade them and then make them vet, although i don't know any barb ship upgrades other than trireme to caravel that produces a unit than can attack

rah · May 17, 2003, 21:18

Frigates

DrSpike · May 17, 2003, 22:18

Quote:

Originally posted by rah
Frigates

There's no need for that.............he was only giving his opinion.

War4ever · May 18, 2003, 17:18

@ spike....frigate, yes, but they are barb boats.....i don't think cities actually produce anyting but the current/latest unit available to them....

anyone else