Vox Public Announcement - Operation "Immortal Beloved" - Page 2

asleepathewheel · April 9, 2003, 10:36

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Originally posted by Tiberius
Well, what can I say? Read my sig. But then, this is Civ3 and war is a big part of it. What I find interesting is that people are trying to find excuses to justify a war, just like in real life, even though this is just a game.

Right. It would be one thing to say "we are declaring war because we want the land." It is another thing to lie about the situation and make up justifications. Give me a break. Why beat around the bush Vox?

Darekill · April 9, 2003, 10:59

We have at least a clear reason to be at war with Lux uhhh Vox if we see them.

We will be at war because we want them off of the borconian Land.

Harovan · April 9, 2003, 11:00

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Originally posted by BetaHound
Vox has not cheated in any way, shape, or form. Just so we are clear on that.

Our research agreement bore a NAP and was to be cancelled several turns before it was legal to start a war. You have failed to do this and sneak attacked us. Thus, you cheated on us and have proven to be untrustworthy partners. With this attitude, nobody of your team will be welcome in GS after your demise

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Aeson · April 9, 2003, 11:15

I would like to thank Vox for opening up continued expansion possibilities for GS.

Beta · April 9, 2003, 11:30

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Originally posted by Sir Ralph

Our research agreement bore a NAP and was to be cancelled several turns before it was legal to start a war. You have failed to do this and sneak attacked us. Thus, you cheated on us and have proven to be untrustworthy partners. With this attitude, nobody of your team will be welcome in GS after your demise

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Just so we are clear - we have broken a treaty. We have not 'cheated' in the game.

nbarclay · April 9, 2003, 11:37

Which means you're in-game cheaters rather than real-life cheaters.

Jon Shafer · April 9, 2003, 11:38

Can't we all just get along?

asleepathewheel · April 9, 2003, 11:40

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Originally posted by BetaHound
Just so we are clear - we have broken a treaty. We have not 'cheated' in the game.

For the first time in this game, yall are being honest. Ironically its about a breaking a treaty.

Its a shame that truthfullness was discovered so late by Vox, on the eve of its demise.

Harovan · April 9, 2003, 11:53

Nah, they cheated on Lux before. Told you so.

nbarclay · April 9, 2003, 11:54

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Originally posted by nbarclay
Which means you're in-game cheaters rather than real-life cheaters.

Or, to borrow the immortal (pardon the pun) words of the foreign advisor, "The_One is a known liar and cheat. Deal with him carefully."

Edit: We will definitely deal with him.

Master Zen · April 9, 2003, 12:06

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Originally posted by Trip
Can't we all just get along?

Easy for you to say!!!

Arrian · April 9, 2003, 12:06

Lost during this ***-for-tat chestthumping is the loss of one of Gathering Storm's most beloved figures: the Late, Great, GROG. The despicable act of Voxian aggression has snuffed him out, along with his dream of someday riding in his "Tank" (sadly, no one knows what he meant by that, and now perhaps we never shall).

The proud Stormian nation shall mourn our fallen soldier, who bravely volunteered for the most dangerous duty in the land: watching for Voxian invasion. He must have known this was likely to be his fate, yet he proudly answered the call of duty. His bravery shall forever be remembered. And he SHALL BE AVENGED!

-Arrian, proud to have been known as a friend of Grog the Great.

nbarclay · April 9, 2003, 12:09

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Originally posted by Trip
Can't we all just get along?

This is a case of, "Do what I say, not what I did"?

Beta · April 9, 2003, 12:10

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Originally posted by Arrian
Lost during this ***-for-tat chestthumping is the loss of one of Gathering Storm's most beloved figures: the Late, Great, GROG. The despicable act of Voxian aggression has snuffed him out, along with his dream of someday riding in his "Tank" (sadly, no one knows what he meant by that, and now perhaps we never shall).

The proud Stormian nation shall mourn our fallen soldier, who bravely volunteered for the most dangerous duty in the land: watching for Voxian invasion. He must have known this was likely to be his fate, yet he proudly answered the call of duty. His bravery shall forever be remembered. And he SHALL BE AVENGED!

-Arrian, proud to have been known as a friend of Grog the Great.

If it's any consolation - he died in his sleep.

nbarclay · April 9, 2003, 12:13

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Originally posted by BetaHound

If it's any consolation - he died in his sleep.

He died in his sleep? Is there no end to Voxian villainy? With the power of your forces, I would have thought that you could at least have had the honor to allow him to die in combat rather than assassinating him as he slept.

Harovan · April 9, 2003, 12:18

They killed Grog, we will kill The One. Fair enough.

Jon Shafer · April 9, 2003, 12:20

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Originally posted by nbarclay
This is a case of, "Do what I say, not what I did"?

You dare question the authority of the overseer?

DeepO · April 9, 2003, 12:21

What, Grog has died? Now that was a mistake, Vox... you just made this war personal to Arrian.

Oh well, as Aeson has already said: we were looking for ways of expanding, it's nice of you to give your land for the good cause. Maybe, just maybe, might we consider keeping the name you have choosen for your former territory as a thanks for the gift you just made.

BTW, If you want to start disbanding your cities now, you can still get out of this without losing too much face. I haven't been to the private forum yet, but I don't think GS will stop this war before either of us are extinct.

Personally I'm appalled by how you behaved, if it wasn't for our kindness, you would have been dead millenia ago, we nursed you into the position you are now in. We even supported you in public in your last invasion of Bob, as friends. And now you backstab us? Bye bye, Vox, really nice to have known you.

DeepO

nbarclay · April 9, 2003, 13:01

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Originally posted by Trip

You dare question the authority of the overseer?

"Observer" and "overseer" aren't quite the same thing.

Jon Shafer · April 9, 2003, 13:05

Silly man, I watch from above as the fate of nations are shaped...

nbarclay · April 9, 2003, 13:14

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Originally posted by Trip
Silly man, I watch from above as the fate of nations are shaped...

As I said, observer.

Although it does sound a lot nicer the way you put it.

ZargonX · April 9, 2003, 13:17

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Silly man, I watch from above as the fate of nations are shaped...

Do you all every worry that everything we do is really just for Trip's amusement...

Jon Shafer · April 9, 2003, 13:35

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Originally posted by nbarclay
As I said, observer.

Although it does sound a lot nicer the way you put it.

Bah, however you phrase it, I know... *Crack of lightning followed by thunder* EVERYTHING!

Okay, anyways, back to my big lounge chair in the sky.

Continue.

Darekill · April 9, 2003, 14:04

Just one question from a humble earthling:
Will Trip the big overseer erase his notices if someone shoud dare to come close to them with swords?
Just a question it makes me wonder.....

Jon Shafer · April 9, 2003, 14:07

This God is just waiting for the rematch...

Hot Mustard · April 9, 2003, 14:12

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Originally posted by Trip
This God is just waiting for the rematch...

You could play a Lux vs. (Vox or GS) game while the rest of us continue.

Jon Shafer · April 9, 2003, 14:30

Nah... I figure there's enough players from all the teams in the ISDG PBEM games where I can get my revenge...

Dominae · April 9, 2003, 14:54

I am trying to figure out where the line is being drawn here between trash-talking and pure abusiveness. There is simply no need for comments like "Vox are liars and cheats", etc. etc. Sure, they may have cheated Gathering Storm out of a deal or two, and may have lied one some occasions. I'm not really sure. But this is a game. And remember: all is fair in love and war (in this case, the latter). So direct verbal attacks on a team and therefore their members is simply uncalled for. Telling Vox that they will not be welcome in our ranks is a insult pure and simple. We are all playing this game to have fun, and there is no need to get angry when one team declares war on another.

Please tell me that all the previous Gathering Storm comments were made in the spirit of fun-loving trash-talk. If not, I am appalled that my team is taking this so seriously. It is especially unsporstmanlike to verbally abuse your opponent in a game when you have a clear advantage (which I think we do). Is it not enough that Gathering Storm will prevail that we have to make flatter ourselves by putting Vox down publicly?

Again, let me know if I'm way off track here, I have a funny way of missing the intent behind some threads/posts.

Dominae

Arrian · April 9, 2003, 14:55

Dominae,

Have a look at my Grog post and ask yourself if I'm being serious.

-Arrian

Dominae · April 9, 2003, 15:01

Arrian, I realise that you're own post was in pure jest (I'm not that thick!). I did not want to single anyone out. In general, however, I believe our team could have been a bit more sportsmanlike in reaction to this announcement.

Grog will be avenged, and the unit that destroys the last of Vox's forces will be renamed 'Grog' in His honor (maybe 'Son of Grog', or something equally fitting).

Dominae